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Enough is enough - A Korean Curator, for Whom and for What ? by abdullar

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· @abdullar ·
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Enough is enough - A Korean Curator, for Whom and for What ?
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Good morning my friends.
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Looking at KR contents, I come to realize there are many writings written by curators.
Almost half of all the pages account for Trending section.

![A.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmdY4a9bkyE74Vv7zEVzfRfsYmWbMLNh8ZKP2wMA9SVzNX/A.png)

A few accounts whom we can easily recognize take up all the Trending pages. I think it's almost automatic, regardless of the content. Let's assume that they started to steemit earlier, contributed a lot in KR community and invested a lot of money and there are a lot of people who acknowledge that it's the result of long time contributions.

But What really makes me feel annoyed is that it's obvious that the main image of posts is too often visible.

![B.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmTMmBzQbroiXJAtqpvmgWw9HTvPYdMQLnEAGxA31MA9qp/B.png)

Everytime I see the image, it is disgusting rather than proud.

I don't want to point out a particular person, but I just want to point him out.

![A.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmdY4a9bkyE74Vv7zEVzfRfsYmWbMLNh8ZKP2wMA9SVzNX/A.png)

There are four or five posts coming out a day. It seems like he's got more imcome after HF19. Where is the difference between "KR community participating in Curating" and "A good article of KR community that a curator just chose"? How is it different? Moreover, What the hack with finding a new author? Wasn't it supposed to recommend for a good article that is less visible? I think it's too much to earn much money every day by writing seemingly the same articles.

In addition, there are very few people who enter the article and read the actual recommendation. There are a lot more votes of the curator than votes of actual recommended posts. and they who know each other exchange votes. I think it's a shallow trick to earn his own personal income.

If it is not for his personal income, and for promoting new members and for promoting community development, it is true that the entire steem and steem power should be given to the recommended articles.

Earning money while writing someone else's contents is not ethical.

Somebody might argue, saying like "with my money, I'll do whatever I want. Who cares? Mind your own business. My power is entitled to use my power, and if you are not entitled to it, you can put it in your pocket, and you can find yourself putting up the money, and you might find other whales to cross the cross."

But the reason that this claim is insufficient is that the compensation of steem is not absolute assessment, but rather a relative evaluation. If someone takes more, someone gets as little as that. When the whole thing is done, someone else does something, and it hurts someone else who doesn't do it.

It might be proud of itself under capitalism to have plenty of Steem Power, followers and private groups. Maybe it's even more straightforward to say that money is equal to an ability as Jeong said it.

But let's stop packing for such excuses and pride as pretending to do acts of patriotism. Enough is enough.

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Thanks for visiting and reading this posting.....^^

This is Re-posting.
All reward will be forwarded to originators @slay, @atomrigs.
The original : https://steemit.com/steemit/@slay/translate-enough-is-enough-a-korean-curator-for-whom-and-for-what
The original : https://steemit.com/kr/@atomrigs/6pqpm6#@slay/re-atomrigs-2017626t12230586z
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@a1sa ·
Yes, I am strongly agree with you @abdullar ... Copying and re-posting is not appreciable... It kills creativity and the rights of others... we should discourage these kinds of peoples...  and their wrong  practices... I want to hear and read more good pots from you @abdullar in the future...
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@acidyo ·
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Doesn't sound good if he is posting that often :/ People have a hard time holding their greed in check, and just like you said - we share the same pool. The more he posts the less others are receiving. As a curator myself I try and limit to 1 post per day not to abuse the voting power that has been trusted on me.
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@charles1 ·
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I agree @acidyo I noticed that already that you limited to 1 post in order to give others a chance to share in the big sweet cake. Keep up the good work and am already in touch with you. Steemit is great because of people like you working hard to help others  with good contents and support. Keep steeming.
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@charles1 ·
Good.
Have  you seen the free fall in all cryptos today? see https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@charles1/the-fears-in-crypto-currencies-big-losses-in-steem-etherium-bitcoin-et-al
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@deadspace ·
Yeah, this is ridiculous as hell. This really screws newer people that post to KR, and it sucks that there's not much we can do about it. At least that I know of.
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@acidyo ·
I wish that flags would become more normal over time and that users wouldn't be too sensitive about it. But since it costs voting power most of us won't use them just because of that - I myself don't flag because of my curation trail cause I think that voting power is better used on newcomers who don't see much rewards on their posts. 

Oh well, we can only improve from here on out.
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@fechaugger ·
I'm not in the KR section because I don't speak it. And it's not a language you just pick up. But even on the main pages I come across a lot or Korean written articles.
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@dreamrafa ·
Mmmm so, that is probably the reason all payouts are dropping incredible fast...
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@gargon ·
I totally agree. I do the same
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@reddust · (edited)
There is a study of the Yellowstone bears, which will go for the easiest source of food even if it is garbage. I think Bears and people are opportunist at heart, it is a natural behavior. However there was a die-off  of bears when the garbage  heaps were removed....

https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/yellowstone-bears-no-longer-get-garbage-treats
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@simeonburke ·
@acidyo Here's one of the first things you need to know about steeming on steemit https://steemit.com/steemit/@simeonburke/user-alert-2-don-t-quit-your-job-yet-why-you-should-not-rely-on-steeming-as-your-main-part-time-source-of-income
If you need any help, feel free to ask questions as well.
Have a lovely day!
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@themanualbot ·
@jassennessaj, this answer your question on how can steemit accomodate the potential reward of all users given that amount of active steemians earning more than $100 and what's the purpose of the SBD in the system. I had a hard time explaining this on you cause you never listen to me well. :/
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@agamii ·
Yeah sad, really hard to get money for newbie. But its doesnt really matter, just keep good content and i believe that hard work will pay off.
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@ajwsurfboards ·
So is PROMOTING a post always worth it???? i still do not have the $1 steem it dollar to afford a promotion haha just trying to learn for when my big day comes :)
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@akiyoshi ·
Awesome, great work.!!
Thanks for sharing information update @abdullar
Upvote and Resteem.!!
Steem on.
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@alin04kasilver ·
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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@allmonitors ·
Good thing you noticed that also, I commend you for that sir. My posts barely make $10, guess I am lucky sometimes manual curators patiently scroll down to the bottom.
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@alol ·
Articles that are good, hopefully this steemit forward not only for those who have great power, but must be noticed newcomers or those who have low power.
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@amimohan ·
Yes ,I am agree with you .Good message for those who cheat our originality.Lets all stay in touch.Thank you for your valuable post
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@amri ·
Very good friends, just like what happened in Indonesia @abdullar, everyone expect a lot of pay on every post, so very many post which I think not for a paper, but only for garbage that make dirty wall steemit
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@amri ·
Just like what happened in my area @abdullar, everyone expecting a lot of money on every post, I see the post is also equally, nice post, allow me to share with my friends
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@amuchtar ·
amazing.....
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@anil777 ·
Good Morning
YOu made a valid point 

Thanks for Sharing 

Followed Upvoted and ReSteemed 

pls look at my post as well - 
https://steemit.com/steemit/@anil777/how-steemit-changed-me-as-a-person-believe-me-it-s-phenomenal
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@arcange ·
$0.02
You have been mentionned in my hit-parade of 2017.06.26
Congratulations @abdullar!
Your post was mentioned in my [hit parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20170626) in the following categories:

* Comments - Ranked 8 with 149 comments
* Pending payout - Ranked 7 with $ 1077,82
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@arnel ·
Thanks for pointing this out... there should be some sort of equalizer on this platform to make it more alive and exciting. Not just about bots and steem power. 
There is Wild Spark by Synereo coming in June 30th... I might check it out what's in there, just trying to see if there's a better platform that has better chance for me to thrive and grow as a newbie.
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@arneljayestimada ·
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***this post is chosen as great content📃📝📍***
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@arorapuneet ·
I agree ....hf19 has changed everything .....still hope for best
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@azlansugihen · (edited)
$14.07
Yeah in #cn section too, i,m new in steemit, and i feel really hard to get money. I think i've made sme good article :( . What do you think ?
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@abdullar ·
you need to do... and... it will improve our wonderful steemit.... i'm sure....^^
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@azlansugihen ·
Thank you for your sugestion, but i'm not really good in other language, like korean or chinese. I always made an article in english. I want to improve my steemit exactly
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@hailwing ·
Please don't make the mistake of trying to spam the network with low value content. 
garbisch posts won't help anyone.
Except if you are a whale and you can earn $45 doller by upvoting yourself.
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@azlansugihen ·
Yeah of course dude
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@baidarusramli ·
Good post man.
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@barvon ·
$0.91
You are right, i am looking at the post with hastags #kr it always gets place for trending.
How can that happen, will the KR curator make all post #kr get great results every day?
This is the opinion between me and you, because I do not want to hurt the feelings of others.
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@bibek ·
Great post..upvoted:))
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@billthecipher ·
If getting any reward for your posts as a new is hard what will happen later when more people will come?
Right now the only content that gains is Crypto and photos + girls that cook or they are verified as a girls.
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@breaktheinternet ·
<p><img src="https://media.giphy.com/media/sZsYcaSSC9xni/giphy.gif" width="533" height="300" /></p>
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@btc.ctb ·
$31.54
Yep i saw it too not only in #kr section. 
Now it is so hard to get money for your good post if you are new person. 
There is group of people who always get new reward's even if they post is not really good.
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@charles1 · (edited)
$14.14
The same here hence why @abdullar article earned my upvote and following because he pointed this bad behavior out. Good to make money from your hard work and steem power, however better to use your power to help others especially new peeple writing better article and also at least post once a day or Maximum 2. Good comment and post, lets all stay in touch.

Have  you seen the free fall in all cryptos today? see https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@charles1/the-fears-in-crypto-currencies-big-losses-in-steem-etherium-bitcoin-et-al
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@casparleuzinger ·
yes i agree with you. i find it really hard getting somehwere at the time.. i will continue posting quality content regardless.
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@charles1 ·
Good point,
Have  you seen the free fall in all cryptos today? see https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@charles1/the-fears-in-crypto-currencies-big-losses-in-steem-etherium-bitcoin-et-al
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@hailwing ·
$7.14
So I'm a brand new user. And you are saying that it will be hard for me to get a chance around here?
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@btc.ctb ·
You need really good content and a lot of luck too start now or be some famous person. 
But maybe you have more lucky than me :D 
Without perfect english i lost my hope.
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@ih5kevin ·
Wait how can you be "brand new" with a higher reputation than 25?? I'm actually brand new and have been trying to figure things out...
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@juvyjabian ·
$7.15
The figures in the trending page is tempting but sad because their the person over and over again. This is the disadvantage of having a bot. If bots will be disabled, we will be able to build an active community which is good for the platform.
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@jzeek ·
$16.33
Getting rewards for new comers is very hard and only a bunch of accounts are coming the trending section like everyday, is something wrong in the system or people are manipulating the system, which leaves hardworking new bloggers at the risk of leaving the platform @abdullar
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@abdullar · (edited)
thanks for your opinion .... but we are not manipulating the system.... now... we are making the system.... Executive, developer, user including all newbie.... ^^
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@hailwing ·
I thought  Steemit was about earning a fare share of your posts?
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@juvyjabian ·
Its because everything is set on auto bots. If these bots will be disable and promote active indulgence, the platform will be alive. If a steemian dont get involve then he has no activity. Unlike today, some of the huge voters are sleeping and earning. I could not blame them because they are rich and would wanted to earn with their investment, but they might as well considering others by giving them a chance to show up.
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@simeonburke · (edited)
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@nnnhhh ·
in a sense, it really is his power and account so he can do whatever the hell he wants. but when you do something like this, it just shows how little you care about the steemit community. to grow the platform, attract new users, **AND** retain these users, we need to be more wary about this kind of behaviour. we need to support new users who are pushing out good content, and we need to support non-steemit related content. that is if we want to attract the mainstream audience and get them to use steemit on a regular basis.
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@pratikchordia ·
I know that's too sad for the beginners.
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@ramires ·
$0.30
It will be cleaned naturally.
We are steemian.....^^
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@btc.ctb ·
$16.39
I hope so brother, you know it is really annoying when you trying to make good post and you get 0 attention, and someone just draw shitty picture or always write about same topic and he got 1k$ for every post. 
But just like you say: we are steemian ! We must win!
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@simeonburke ·
@btc.ctb Here's one of the first things you need to know about steeming on steemit  https://steemit.com/steemit/@simeonburke/user-alert-2-don-t-quit-your-job-yet-why-you-should-not-rely-on-steeming-as-your-main-part-time-source-of-income
If you need any help, feel free to ask questions as well.
Have a lovely day!
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@bycz ·
$0.59
at this point. users with more SP have larger payouts. The majority of the people  think in voting content with higher payout that content with lower payout
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@charles1 ·
@abdullar Have  you seen the free fall in all cryptos today? see https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@charles1/the-fears-in-crypto-currencies-big-losses-in-steem-etherium-bitcoin-et-al
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@charles1 · (edited)
$0.07
Good point, I agree. This affects mostly new people like me who sees only the same people taking in almost all votes , and posting multiply times a day. Even though most of them worked hard for it and are actually joining forces, they should consider others too. Upvoted to support you and following in order to stay in touch Lets stay in touch
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@chrisx · (edited)
hi @abdullar i may have something interesting for you: @fairvote
pls don't hesitate to contact fairvote if you see a value there, each help is welcome to bring it into the korean steemit as well :-)
have a very nice day
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@corn113 ·
이 지리한 전쟁이 빨리 끝나서 
모두가 편안 했으면 좋겠습니다.
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@crastty32 ·
nice post abdullar like it :)
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@cryptoknight12 ·
https://media.giphy.com/media/1BXa2alBjrCXC/giphy.gif

me after putting hours into a steem post...
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@cryptonewbi ·
I am a new user and mainly I see a challenge ahead..finding my way within this platform. Nice to see that we are not completely left on our own! :-)

I am trying to post relevant content in order to get my followers up. That should, hopefully, lead to a good start of something big! :-)
👍  
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@cryptopie ·
This issue must be addressed as it is not actually inviting for new members.
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@cryptoradar ·
Something interesting from crypto world today :https://steemit.com/ethereum/@cryptoradar/here-s-how-vitalik-gave-proof-of-him-being-alive-countering-fake-news
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@cryptounicorn ·
This is kinda disheartening. I am someone who just started after I got excited when one of my comments made like $7. I have been putting thought into some helpful posts lately, and have yet to get anyone really upvoting my posts....

It is seeming like commenting is really the only way to really to get ahead at the moment if your new like me. Do I need to buy more Steem Power?
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@danlocks.com ·
I believe that each member of the community has a moral responsibility towards the other members. We all need to get involved when something is not fair to others.
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@davidad ·
I'm new user here, are you saying that it will be hard for me to get a chance around in this platform?
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@daydreams4rock · (edited)
yeh i see it trendin everyday - i follow you now and upvote
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@dreamiely ·
Steemit reward system:
1. Fixed reward pool for a certain period. A budget of sorts
2. Reward goes to QUALITY CONTENT

Now it gets tricky..

3. Reward is determined by upvotes, comments, resteem
4. Upvote value differs on voting power.

In a nutshell, it is like the typical world we live in. Early adapter advantage for most who were able to build their sp through the months of hardwork here. Still reaping the benefits of earlier hardwork. 

Or if you have money to invest heavily on sp, the world will favor you too.

As for me, I'll focus on doing what i do, and hope to build enough sp of my own someday. Might take me a while though because of the current set up. 

And while im slowly building mine, those up there are strengthening theirs exponentially.

The gap will be hard to bridge indeed. Unless they opt out or i put tons of money in.
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@dreamrafa ·
This is exactly why the trending can not be just about payout... Hopefully people get aware of this and make a change in HF20, posts should trend by comments, number of upvotes and lastly payout...
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@dumar022 ·
$1.86
Yes, I noticed this lately a lot!
👍  ,
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@abdullar ·
^_^
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@dzboston33 ·
I personally can't comment on the quality of the work this individual puts out since I can't read, nor speak Korean. However, I do think it is unfortunate that it, at least from this post, more work is going towards earning him/self money than helping find new authors under the disguise of a curator.
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@erikaflynn ·
This situation is not only in Kr-community. There are good words for this case: A strong man is seen by how he treats the weak.
I saw a lot of people here with high reputation and SP, who really treats about our common growth by promoting new authors with small  reputation and I saw others who work only for own pocket. This is a personal choice of everyone... Who is really strong here?
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@filiphbo ·
Wherever there are large amounts of unregulated funds there will be abuse of the system
Lets hope that steem finds a way to make the system fairer
Until then I guess the only thing we can do is support each other
👍  
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@freshstuff ·
Its is, what it is .sometimes its happens
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@gdreyer ·
As a newbie it's so difficult to get money.  Upvote me please :)
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@gimperialg ·
https://steemit.com/art/@gimperialg/the-castel-from-bad-berleburg-germany-discover-the-magic-art-artwork-socialimpact
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@glex ·
$6.93
Sadly, it is good that you and other experienced authors raise this issue, let's hope that it will draw attention.

It's very important to share their thoughts and experiences, but like many newcomers - to get to the reader very difficult.
👍  ,
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@glex ·
So blame those who vote for such a picture (or they wind the voices of their friends)? See gathered enough powerful users, if not vote, who vote for those who are gaining huge sum, whales?

Sorry, I'm only a few days, i can see there are excellent and useful posts. 

It turns out that the Guild can't cope?
👍  
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@godswill ·
New here but is like i noticed such
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@hansikhouse ·
$0.05
One key point that isn't as clear in the text and was flushed out with further kr comments is once of the key problems - that this person is curating on behalf of the #kr community without any real support from the community. His post images reference the korean flag, national imagery, etc. but ever since a month ago, the community has almost unanimously rejected his work as a self-driven money-maker.

One of the real troublesome things that happens is that newcomers are not aware of the past controversy and end up throwing their money and support unwillingly at this "curator" who does almost nothing to reward the original content creators. 

@abdullar님 감사합니다.
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@charles1 ·
Good point. Thanks for sharing
Have  you seen the free fall in all cryptos today? see https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@charles1/the-fears-in-crypto-currencies-big-losses-in-steem-etherium-bitcoin-et-al
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@hegetiby ·
I am sorry that a revolutionary tool like this social media based on block-chain meant to bring equality of opportunities is now threatened by a few. 

Where there are people gathered, there are all kind of intents, some for the interest of others and some for personal interest. We won´t get rid of this reality.

I think though this post is great and we need much more of people like you with initiative to point out and not be quiet about any deviations in order to maintain  this platform as it was meant to be, based on equality and rewarded on good quality content.

Thank you!
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@homeartpictures ·
With what you say you are absolutely right and I agree with that. Unfortunately, no one can influence or change it.
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@abdullar ·
$0.42
Dear my friend ... we can change it.... and we are changing it now..... ^^
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@homeartpictures ·
$7.15
This sounds like a lot of action. I like that!!
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@demotruk ·
Large stakeholders can.
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@homeartpictures ·
Right there you are right, the big one could really
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@howtostartablog ·
I do agree with you. I keep seeing the same people over and over again on the trending page. It's keeping other deserving newbies from getting rewarded for the amount of effort they're putting in.
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@icedrum ·
Very interesting... hopefully the community can work this out?
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@iceman40 ·
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Well done my friend-unfortunatelly there are problems which have to be treated as soon as possimple!
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@ijoel ·
Yes, that's right. What you say in your post, in steemit money is steem power, I really agree with you. I support you. You are a good and generous curator
regards @ijoel from Aceh
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@jake123up ·
For healthy system to new person, too much curator & curating will do harm in long term. So, I agree with you.
Thank you for reminding me
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@jaki01 ·
Unfortunately HF 19 actually <a href="https://steemit.com/steemit/@jaki01/hf-19-and-the-question-of-self-voting-hf19-und-die-frage-bezueglich-selbstvotes">increased the problem</a> that certain accounts (especially the big ones) reserve their few but very powerful high-percentage upvotes to mutually upvote each other or some friends again and again. In additon the problem of self-voting became much more serious now. There are for example <a href="https://steemit.com/@sandrino">members</a> who write many minimalistic articles every day with the only purpose to upvote themselves (which amounts to several hundred dollars per day) ...
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@jamhuery ·
Thanks for sharing @abdullar.
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@jimjam1210 · (edited)
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@abdullar very good post upvoted your 100% right resteemed
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@jkim1285 ·
Abdullah님 저 팔로워인데요 제가 좀 뉴비주제에 주제넘는 글을 쓰는것이 아닌가 생각하지만 제 양심이 허락하지 않아서 글을 남겨봅니다. 지금 이글은 상당히 한쪽입장만 정리하셔서 쓴 글인것 같습니다.  Pros and cons 스탠스를 취하셔서 글을 쓰셨다면 수긍이 가겠지만 한 쪽 입장에서 영문으로 글을 남기시면 yoonjang0707님도 활동하시는데 치명적이실 것이라고 생각합니다. 물론 의견을 내는건 자유롭지만 현재 kr커뮤니티가 편가르기 상황이 되어버렸습니다. Abdullar님과 같이 영향력 큰분이시라면 중재자 입장을 취하셧으면 어떨까해서 답글  남깁니다
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@jodipamungkas ·
$1.53
good post iam just following your posting @abdullar
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@abdullar ·
my friend ... that is not enough..... you need to make your steemit world ....^^
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@jodipamungkas ·
yeah on progress @abdullar iam just make my gaming world on steemit ^_^
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@jondahl ·
Good news...
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@jondahl ·
Good post...
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@jonipilo ·
following but, why did you resteem their last post?
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@joseph ·
I am glad you took the time to do this. As Steemit expands and the soon to be communities hardfork comes more and more voices from within each community should be heard. The best way for that to work is by having voices like yours. Scaling needs everyone to participate and not just a few to select.
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@jumowa ·
I'd be looking at it longterm. those are just the early adopters. they will fade and real creators will stand out. 

😊
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@juvyjabian ·
I agree with you. Seeing the same people over and over again in the trending page, makes new members weak especially when their content are not getting any, if there is, only a dot. Again, its alright to support a friend but we need to be diversified. Letting others feel that they have also value in the community.
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@kedpak ·
Is this only an issue in the KR section? Very interesting read from someone who is new.
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@kingscrown · (edited)
i follow you and slowwalker as you post unique, a lot of other posts look like same person wrote them - i can only tell by google translate

i love korean food and style - never been there yet but i follow you guys to learn a bit and when i finally come to have great time 

so thanx for this post, and i dont know this 2 guys from your screenshot just speaking globally when i try to find content
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@kirkwuk ·
In my opinion we create this community and we can change it. 
Try to find own unique content  and don't give up !!
Maybe someday we will be whale's and we will make rules !
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@kj50114 ·
Actually, a lot of people thinking of starting Steemit(so called newbies) are now getting skeptical to create their own account. To make more and more people enter this platform, we should make this platform clean by ourselves. Cheer up guys, we can do it
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@knowledge1 ·
I understand what you're saying, but I didn't understand why anyone would write for others.

*Earning money while writing someone else's contents is not ethical.*

What does that mean?  I'm just curious.

Thanks for an honest post.
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@kyriacos ·
wow. that's just manipulation...
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@leosenior ·
There’s something to conceder: ya write well and there’s no reason to be upset, your readers will belong to you
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@lichtblick ·
Upvoted and resteemd :-)
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@linuslee0216 ·
$0.81
Some people sad that KR is a very good community as newbie can also get support from the whale, so that you can see all KR post had high payout as they are helping each other. So may be it is why they keeping voting the whale to help them to grow up and stronger the community, helping minnows? Sometime helping people is also a good reason to vote, not just consider the quality of the post I think.

I know in #CN new comer and minnows will get upvote from other CN people for their new posts, as want to help them and develop a better community.

Maybe it is just cultural different? These community they like to help each other, stronger the whale and helping the minnow, not just vote what they like.

Some platform like chxxxxbb and estxxxx will also provide free vote to their user too. It is hard and no reason to stop them I think...
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@lklab2013 ·
이번에 스팀잇에서 가장 크게 화제가 되었던 부분입니다. 
좋은 컨텐츠를 생산을 할 수 있도록 하는 것이 가장 중요한 부분인데. 아직은 생태계가 좀더 갖춰져야 할 부분이 있는게 아닌가 생각이 듭니다. 

저도 이 부분에 대해서 생각을 해봤는데. 역시 이렇게 누구나 스팀잇에 대해서 비판할 수 있고. 또 자유롭게 이야기 하는 부분이 좋았습니다. 만약에 누군가가 고의로든 실수로든 잘못된 방향으로 나아갈  때. 잡아줄 수 있는 부분이 있겠지요. 

여러번의 하드포크로 인해서 스팀잇은 계속해서 발전해 나갈 것이고 그 가운데 계속 좋은 의견이 나타날 것으로 기대가 됩니다. 저도 시작한지 이제 겨우 일주일에 불과하지만. 큐레이터 사건이 터진 시점에 사람들이 토론을 이어나가는 것에서 스팀잇의 발전 가능성을 보았습니다. 

덕분에 저는 더 확신을 갖고 활동을 할 수 있게 되었습니다. 좋은 글 감사히 보고갑니다. 감사합니다.
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@mahaelsayed ·
$0.02
i'm new user and i think it's very difficult for me
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@marcusxman ·
Unfortunately I think that this happens in all language category and this is an issue that Steemit must tackle.  Human being humans will act on emotions and greed being one of them.  It is an issue that the top must resolve for the good of the community.
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@hailwing ·
Because the language 'sections' are a lot smaller. The most active users are always in trending. My native language (western country) doesn't even have a hastag yet. 

We are at such an early time in the community. There's simply not enough high quality content to push away to bad content. (Or there aren't enough people with lots of steam power).
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@marekdavid ·
ver
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@mars9 ·
Good morning @abdullar
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@melkay · (edited)
$0.05
I agree it is very difficult but not only for KR.  

For instance I have just over 100 followers, posted a great post today issuing a 10SD prize. It is also for a good cause. But becuase of how it is set up even tho I bought 1000 Steem Power the post did not even get seen.  

I am not even worried about the money but I think visibility has gone down actually since new system. and people are only really paying attention to the trending feed as the new feed moves too quickly.  

This leaves everyone reading the same content every day, commenting on it maybe and then waiting for new hot topics by those same authors to read something new an hour or two or three later. 

I really think those using curation trails should re avaluate and rather follow individual authors. Even then keep and eye on them so they not abusing it and remove them from the list if they are.  

It feels like some of these bots have been upvoting some people for ever,  every day without re avaluating if those posters even need the upvotes and are maintaining quality.
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@mhegan ·
New user here ..anyone wanna visit my waste post lol :)
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@monogrande ·
I'll make sure to curate this article. ^^
얼책같은 단속이 없는 매개체 이다 보니 이런 일도 생기는군요...
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@muchlizars ·
its great you post @abdullar.
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@nazirkhyber ·
$6.87
I think cheating is not good practice.... It stop creativity and originality... And the user don't get the fresh and updated data...And they don't learn new things....These kind of members devalue the community ....And also themselves...We should believe on hard work and honesty for achieving our goals and success...Thank you @abdullar for the informative post...
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@nazirkhyber ·
At least we should see these things before upvoting a post....
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@nlizotte ·
I have to agree with this.

What I do suggest however, is if the content *actually is terrible* and I do not mean not-of-your-taste, but rather *regurgitation*, flag it and continue to upvote the truly inspiring and informative articles you see fit.  

Each person regardless of steempower is able to have a say.


Thank you for starting this thread.
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@nomad88 ·
$0.06
Nicely put! It was about time somebody raised his voice about that issue.
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@onetree ·
So many of us feel your frustration!!! It is a not a kr problem, but a Steemit issue.
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@oyamurty ·
$0.05
Thanks for sharing this useful information @abdullar, followed you for your latest post
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@patelincho ·
Sadly after the fork some people realy abuse the sistem :) 
Have a nice day and happy steeming !
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@lanceman ·
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This was a good and informative post here, good eye on the Steemians!  Hey @patelincho !  How goes it / there you are !  Enjoy  sweet Monday & hope your flowers are progressing lovely :)
![LMAN.GIF](https://steemitimages.com/DQmS2myMLnYTUsZZeCwmMijh8irZSrmojVQytio5qe54wBG/LMAN.GIF)
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@patelincho ·
$0.55
Hello , my flowers are fine  hehe I just dont post flowers any longer , trayng to keep 2 posts per day because of the fork :) Need my voting power to upvote other people also :)
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@patil ·
The same here hence why @abdullar article earned my upvote and following because he pointed this bad behavior out. Good to make money from your hard work and steem power, however better to use your power to help others especially new peeple writing better article and also at least post once a day or Maximum 2. Good comment and post, lets all stay in touch.

Have you seen the free fall in all cryptos today?
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@pioner888777 ·
I'm here recently, but also noticed that people simply exchange voices and they do not care about the content. ))
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@pocketechange ·
lol...  Isn't that how the world works...???
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@pocketechange ·
I'm a little late in posting a comment, but I did write a post about 10 hours ago dealing with upvoting ones own posts and comments...  You can find it at...
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@practicaleric ·
Yeah it is really hard to make any cash if u are new like me, I hardly make anything. Very discouraging but true. Hoping for the best though
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@qamerjaved ·
good
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@rahmathidayat097 ·
@abdullar very good post upvoted you
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@rayccy ·
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Thank you @abdullar for the post. I didn't really understand how the system works until I read yours and realize it is really a problem. I cannot judge if the content is low-valued as I can't read Korean. But I do think originality should be promoted on steemit and curators are supposed to find out good contents and good authors and encourage more of them on the platform. Even if the Korean curator's content is good, I think maybe it is a better idea for him to find out other good authors' content than to just keep posting new topics and award himself for that.. in the long run that's detrimental to the community as a whole because minnows would just find their experience getting started on steemit more frustrating than ever (I myself as a minnow find some comfort only after discovering more about the minnowsupport projects).

Pardon me for the long text, and again please have a big thank you from me for posting this. I truly appreciate people like you who care about the others and the future of the community. Resteemed!
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@razazaidi ·
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@redtravels · (edited)
We can't change anything... Saw all that happening even before HF19....not only in #kr section but in so many more. For Newcomers to this Community, it is freaking hard to compete... I don't even mean compete, but that people at least have a look at our content ... Newcomers like me are just small fish in this big pond... The only thing we can do is try harder and maybe one day we can make it to something bigger... Only time knows, I won't give up...
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@rlawls1991 ·
구글 번역하고 제 가 번역한거하고 비교하면서 읽고있는데 매우 좋아요..
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@robydom ·
Ciao a te
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@ronald20 ·
Can you help me guys to get steem or upvotes :(
👍  
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@rondoncr ·
Estas en lo cierto, esto es lo esta pasando en esta comunidad, el pez grande se come al pequeño y los  ricos se hacen mas ricos.
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@rudyrun ·
Hey abdullar I like your article so I tried to vote for you as a witness but when I try to fill your name in -it says you don't exist .
I hope everything is ok with you?
👍  ,
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@salena ·
thanks for your post 
I'm new here check my 
https://steemit.com/photography/@salena/this-girl-has-the-most-colorful-rental-you-ve-ever-seen-or-even-unicorns-are-jealous
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@salmanbahadur ·
@abdullar Awesome i like your post keep it up and in the future write more article like this post
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@sam99 ·
$7.13
Yes, I think Good comment and post, lets all stay in touch. Thanks @abdullar

https://media.giphy.com/media/1sP7McVJRojv2/giphy.gif
👍  ,
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@scrooger ·
I really know what you mean. It grinds my gears everyday. This is not just relevant in the KR section. There are countless posts and users pushing out content. 

So many bots are set up to upvote accounts for curation purposes and so many countless other are just getting upvoted because they have a high reputation. 

I try my best and I actually help the community, but because my post never reach whales I never really see a good payout. What do you think a post with 360 upvotes is worth? 23 Bucks. With almost a 1000 views and 350 comments. Don't tell me it's a crap post. I helped many but because it not picked up by whales or the popular people I don't see much rewards. 

This has got me so down lately. I work my as off on a markdown post, providing everything you need for markdown editing. i get a few views. Another user posts some random codes in random order and little structure. They make 10 times more than I do. I am not saying I am better than anyone, not at all. Lately though it just feels like a popularity contest and if you are not one of the "cool" kids you won't really make much... 

Enough of my rant. I do apologize. Just gets to me. Working 5+ hours on a post and not getting any recognition. Sucks.
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@sdilan ·
this sucks for new users like me because there is no space for noob articles.. I understand that it is in the kn section but still this discourages new users.
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@sergiomendes ·
It will always be like that. Every community have their "faces" it is up to all the creators to make a difference and deserve to get there as well.
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@shla-rafia ·
I switched all bot voting off but without the bot votes I couldn't get theincome I get. I will likely switch on again to support authors who are weaker than me.
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@siddartha ·
If only communities could support good content rather than just good SP accounts.........
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@simeonburke ·
@abdullar Here's one of the first things you need to know about steeming on steemit https://steemit.com/steemit/@simeonburke/user-alert-2-don-t-quit-your-job-yet-why-you-should-not-rely-on-steeming-as-your-main-part-time-source-of-income
If you need any help, feel free to ask questions as well.
Have a lovely day!
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@sk2045 ·
Dear Abdul@your observation is fantastic and you have strong evidence. This is really not a healthy show what they are doing. We shouldn't encourage these people. I stopped following one of them just now. Keep it up Man
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@slon21veka ·
Envy is bad! Therefore, I suggest not paying attention to such trifles! Let's support each other! After all, we are a team!
👍  
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@small1axe ·
Posting the same thing should not be allowed until 7 days or so have past . Could work ?
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@sophiaolive ·
$5.21
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I wish that you will produce also valuable content in future for the people of steemit . It is really great thing when I see that people are putting alot of potential in steem rather then just posting picture and thinking about money ..

I use to read the content and provied my honest feedback about ..

You feedback will be apprecited ..

# Thanks for Your Effort
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@steempokerr ·
Sorry i joined,
I want to have lots of friends.
See and follow me @steempoker
thank you @abdullar
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@steemvest17 ·
$1.11
http://www.jokesoftheday.net/jokes-archive/2009/11/18/The-End-Is-Near-21.gif.330.jpg
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@tantawi ·
Hi greet best friend steemit @abdullar ,help vote and follow Me @tantawi
I'm happy to work with you @abdullar
thank you for your attention.
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@teamsteem ·
Interesting. I had miss that post. I'm only seeing it now. I glad I did.
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@the-future ·
Love the way you put this! Much appreciated your work @abdullar! I think that things will become even harder for new users because people are used to upvote the people they know or people who will upvote them back! 
Plus with the hf19 and fewer​ upvotes per day, it's even harder!
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@the.dajboz ·
Agreed, it's not really fair. check out my posts? I'm new, thought you'd like some of my stuff at @the.dajboz
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@themanualbot ·
Not just on your community @abdullar. I've seen that also on other active communities and some greedy initiatives. I wont mention names for the sake of my peace in mind.

One thing that only bothers me is that theyre upvoting their own comments, and I'm talking about shittest comments. They seem ripping all rewards for their own ambitions and to feed their friend's greed. I can't blame them if they're investing into the site nor you or any whale can do but ffs it is not good for the entire network. :(
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@think-big · (edited)
https://steemit.com/steemit/@think-big/how-to-get-steam-dollars-steam-easily

Please refer to the this link.
@Yoonjang0707, this man has been working with his friends as a group to get more money. Like not reading the posts and upvoting
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@tinmyoaung ·
You post is. i vote
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@tungie ·
Can not judge about these posts since I can't read Korean, but I do sometimes wonder why certain nice articles receive almost nothing and some average articles receive high amounts. 

Maybe it is personal, I have different taste or some good authors are not noticed by the general public. Or as abdullar suggests: there might be foul play which will always happen to some extent if money is involved.
👍  
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@tyrentarun ·
just find out  how to use shutterstock imges for free without water amrk 

https://steemit.com/@tyrentarun
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@tzap90 ·
I am new to Steemit and I can definitely see your point, the good thing about the promotion tab is that people consider twice if they really want to post the content and even pay for the promotion for sharing it with the community. the new tab has the problem that there is a lot of copy and pastes articles, even some copyright violations and solid posts get lost in the shuffle. the creators should consider a post limitation for every account , maybe 2 posts per day and for every additional post, the earnings should start to drop or only be available for an additional cost.
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@urban07 ·
Wow, that is surprising...
Do you guys have some tips for newbies on how to get some Steem Power before posting my first quality article? :D
I don't want it to get lost between articles like these mentioned in your post :/
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@usammiismi ·
$6.86
Maybe they have their own reason to create more posts that end up in trending post. But still, currator should be a helper for a newbie.
👍  , ,
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@abdullar ·
maybe they have reason, but not in this way.....^^
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@usammiismi ·
I agree with you.
Happy eid mubarrak
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@usammiismi ·
I agree with you
Happy eid mubarrak
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@utfull ·
나는 여기에 모두에게 인사하기 위해 여기있다.
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@vicson ·
I think stuffs like that are inevitable in the early days of a new thing. overtime, I am sure things will be regulated. just enjoy it while it last and stay safe. 
Happy Steeming  Everyone <3
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@vladimirk800i ·
nevre payed attention cuz i simply cant read korean. Buuut, since u mentioned, ready your torches and pitchforks, fellas! :D
https://verbumdaytron.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/simpsons-crowd1.jpg
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@waniowski ·
$0.05
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@writingamigo · (edited)
This kind of abuse is what keeps Steemit from growing... I guess it is the greed of people. If these things continue, I think it would be wise to get back to max 2-4 posts per day like it used to be. No one says you could not post more, but it just should not be rewarded to avoid the abuse. If we cannot thrive in a community without rules, then rules must be created...
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@kirkwuk ·
But some people make 1 post per day and they always get a lot money no matter what they write. 
I really don't like it
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@writingamigo ·
Well, those people have been building their following for a year. It is a little outrageous to expect to join the platform and make thousands on your first post.
We have to solve problems one by one and this kind of abuse which abdullar just wrote about is not cool at all. Everyone can use their power for their own good, but there must be at least some kind of limit, and it was clearly crossed. As for the people who are blogging about things their love (without abusing and decreasing quality for quantity) and getting some upvotes from others who follow them - I don't see a big problem. In contrary, this is how the platfrom should work.
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@yakuhi ·
I noticed that while scrolling through the poetry section. It's in a diff language so I just assumed, well, maybe he;s just popular.
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@yashsheth ·
Nice post @abdullar
I am Nature photographer
Please see my photo taken from Nature photographer and write your comment
https://steemit.com/nature/@yashsheth/nature-photography
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@yj-kim ·
you are  1000% right
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@zeartul ·
you know what really grinds my gears... Almost nothing its a free for all here...
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