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· @abh12345 · (edited)
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Where are the Votes (SP) going?
I've been playing with some SQL script for the past couple of hours, trying to find out who's been collecting the voting SP over the past 7 days.

The lists below come with a major caveat in that the right column on each list assumes that every vote cast was cast when the voter was at 100% voting power.  Obviously that is unlikely to be the case, but it should serve as a reasonable figure to order by.

Also, downvotes have not been knocked off the totals.

I have the full lists in Excel for anyone who is interested.  They didn't present to well in markup and that is the reason for the images.

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmRxW32KEm7Xf4fatNKBNZ4mHRfZ6mPveMX22Qmkb9yuwM/image.png)

So that's the top 100 'voter to author'.  As you would probably expect, burnpost makes plenty of appearances from the larger accounts, but there are a couple of interesting names being supported often by some large accounts.

The next chart is the complete list, pivoted by author and ordered by total SP voted on their content over the past 7 days.  Again, the total VP assumes that each vote was made when the voters VP was at 100%.

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![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmQAvbYxcUqqvJ6w1vHuxQTPoEyA4hhy99Qfch4JMj9Crf/image.png)
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This should pretty much match up with the top 7 day earners.  

@burnpost, the STEEM sink, has almost 4 times the total of the 2nd account in the list.

Three of my favourite authors are in that list.

And the rest is up to you to analyse :)

Cheers

Asher


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select a.name as voter, (a.vesting_shares-delegated_vesting_shares+received_vesting_shares)*509.421/1000000 as sp, v.author
,count(v.voter+v.author) as votes, sum(v.weight) as weight, CONVERT(DECIMAL(16,2), sum((v.weight)+0.0)/10000) as 'same as 100% votes', 
((a.vesting_shares-delegated_vesting_shares+received_vesting_shares)*509.421/1000000)*sum(v.weight)/10000 as total_SP_voted_with
from txvotes v
inner join accounts a on v.voter = a.name
where v.weight > 0
and v.timestamp > getdate()-7 -- number of days to scan
group by a.name, (a.vesting_shares-delegated_vesting_shares+received_vesting_shares)*509.421/1000000,  v.weight, v.author
having 
((a.vesting_shares-delegated_vesting_shares+received_vesting_shares)*509.421/1000000)*sum(v.weight)/10000 > 200000 -- 200,000 or more in SP
 order by ((a.vesting_shares-delegated_vesting_shares+received_vesting_shares)*509.421/1000000)*sum(v.weight)/10000 desc

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@abitcoinskeptic ·
Some of the people on this list and their content :(
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@abh12345 ·
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Yeah, not great, but perhaps it was worse 6/7 months ago?
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@abitcoinskeptic ·
It was definitely worse. However, I don't like to think in the past. At some point in history all sorts of unsavory behaviors were acceptable.
Let's keep moving forward, it seems like the swamp still needs some draining.
In the meantime our progress is great.
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@acidyo ·
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Can you do a top author list of downvotes received next? :P
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@abh12345 ·
Should be possible with a slight change to the query :)
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@michealb · (edited)
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yes please.
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@arcange ·
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@bien ·
@blocktrades and @smooth realy used their power wisely by supporting upvote @burnpost.. Cheers...
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@buggedout ·
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Nice one Asher.  What you ideally want is the rshares on the votes, but SteemSQL doesn't seem to provide that.  I've had to pull apart API responses to get that info.

I think this is pretty indicative of where the big "relationships" are though.
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@abh12345 ·
yeah rshares would be the gold, a total nightmare for average scripters though!

vests is possible but just don't make sense to most (including me) with the numbers being so big.

It's good enough to see where the money is I think, cheers :)
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@arcange ·
Check my reply to @buggedout about rshares
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@arcange ·
`rshares` are available in SteemSQL! You will find them in `Comments..active_votes`.

Unfortunately, it's a big JSON string you have to parse. Not very handy nor resource-friendly for big queries.
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@buggedout ·
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Yes, I have seen it there in JSON though if I have to write a script to extract it I may as well use the API.  I should have been more accurate - the data is there but not really SQL extractable / queryable.
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@chekohler ·
Very little trickle-down I guess its to be expected with the funnel being so small and to curate effectively takes real-time and commitment. You'd think the recipients of all this inflation would be keen to pass it on, but hardly any of them even curate, that so-called passing it on effect died at the first hurdle lol
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@abh12345 ·
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It is by design, a long tail.

Large accounts like @ocdb and @curangel are notable in their absence.  There is at least some trickle there.
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@freebornangel ·
Now if we could get who on that list is only here to maximize their btc holdings, that would be great.
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@abh12345 ·
$0.10
Just checked my BTC wallet, anddddd, empty :)
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@freebornangel · (edited)
Only ~~99~~ 98 more to go!
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@smooth ·
$0.02
Not @burnpost!
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@freebornangel ·
Lol, see, it's not sooo hard.

Have we had enough guff from those that only dump to btc and don't build their accounts, yet?
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@geekgirl ·
I am not in the list. Rigged!
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@abh12345 ·
$0.20
Apologies, I'll find a way next time - perhaps for the downvote list? :D
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@geekgirl ·
Great! Thank you.
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@revisesociology ·
$0.06
Nice work! 

I wonder how the distribtion across the top 100 has changed post HF.
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@abh12345 ·
$0.09
I've had a few goes at this and it's a tricky one.  Ignoring names makes it a bit easier, so comparing the earnings of the top 100 over a set period prior to the fork v's recently is probably the best bet.

I'll see, this stuff takes hours of titting about! :D
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@smooth · (edited)
> @burnpost, the SBD sink

Minor correction. @burnpost isn't a SBD sink. For one thing, SBD isn't currently being paid out as rewards, only STEEM. And if it were (as perhaps soon), @burnpost puts the SBD back on the internal market instead of burning it, and burns the STEEM instead.

In fact @burnpost is only a STEEM sink, not SBD.

@sbdpotato is the SBD sink. It is also on the list, but significantly smaller.
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@abh12345 ·
$0.06
Hi @smooth, thanks for the clarification, I'll correct the post.
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@stackin ·
$0.06
How do I get on that list jk 😂😂😂😂
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@abh12345 ·
If you find out let me know! :P
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@steem-ua ·
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@steevc ·
$0.06
Interesting stats. We can see that a lot of big accounts support the potato and burn posts. I guess they think those do some good. It's also clear that some people are making a lot more than most of us could hope to. I am sure some of that is down to fishing for curation rewards, but that's the way of things. At least the curation projects are helping spread the rewards better than previously.

Cheers. Have a !BEER.
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@abh12345 ·
Yeah, while burnpost isn't for everyone, the rewards (or lack of) mean there should be more on the table going forward.

Some accounts are doing really well!
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@smooth · (edited)
It is largely because of much of the rest of the list that @burnpost gets a lot of its support.

If reward payouts were efficiently going to true influencers or successful onboarding, those of us supporting burnpost would see a lot less reason to vote that way. But in fact because much of the rewards goes to enrich a few people with little obvious systemic benefit, why not instead take the win in lower inflation?

I've said numerous times that I would prefer to (and sometimes do) vote for truly _compelling_ content and engagement over burnpost, but as long as that isn't what is happening, I proudly support burnpost to help retain investor value for Steem until we successfully revamp, pivot, or organically get our house in order.
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@pharesim · (edited)
$0.06
> If reward payouts were efficiently going to true influencers or successful onboarding, those of us supporting burnpost would see a lot less reason to vote that way

I don't get that. Much of the rewards goes to enrich those few people either way, voting on @burnpost doesn't change that. On the contrary, by lowering the inflation what they earn is theoretically worth even more. And not giving out rewards to the tail is deadly for onboarding in my view.

I'm aware that curation projects which spread votes aren't able to vote solely on exceptional content, but at least those votes dilute the earnings of the people on the list and motivate newcomers to stay around a bit longer.

//edit:
After letting my thoughts propell around it a bit more I feel even stronger against the burnposts.
Using the golden rule/categorical imperative, I wondered what would happen if everyone acted a certain way:
- self voting: inflation is high, stays with investors
- burnposts: inflation is lower, but still stays with investors
- delegate to projects: inflation is distributed, the more projects/curators are active the better

Of course it's a (maybe a bit overly) simplified approach, but to me it feels like the difference between the first and the second isn't too big, mainly because investors are rewarded for the burns. It doesn't help with growth, and that's the function I see behind curation rewards. 

Lowering the inflation that way benefits everyone who's already involved, be it an investor or an established author or a spammer, but it hurts the tail we need to grow.
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@steevc ·
$0.11
I'll support the good content for what little influence I can have. Those who concentrate on maximising their short term returns may be harming Steem. It desperately needs to grow and attract real influencers. Then the price will increase and I'd rather have 25,000 Steem at $1 than 100,000 at 1c.
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@teutonium ·
I don't really like those upvotes going for burnposts, inflation is high, true, but at least it decentralizes the SP between more people decreasing the bad effect that the early mining had and making the blockchain truly decentralized, burning that inflation actually prevents the decentralization... but it's their stake after all, so I guess it's their choice, maybe it's a good thing, if those big accounts weren't burning the big amounts that we can see in those stats the price would probably go down by way too much...

Now you got to do one of these for downvotes 😅
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@tsnaks ·
Dayumn, that's alot alot of Steem Power :D
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@abh12345 ·
Thanks ;) :D
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@wamush ·
wow what a well detailed statistics,,good post from you...

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@whatsup ·
There we are curation in action.  :)  Naughty grin.
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@abh12345 ·
$0.02
There is certainly some curation going on :)
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@whatsup ·
Interesting post!  Thanks
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@abh12345 ·
Thanks!
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