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AskSteem: What are the positive aspects of HF21 you're looking forward to? by acidyo

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· @acidyo ·
$24.44
AskSteem: What are the positive aspects of HF21 you're looking forward to?
So after reading a lot of complaining and how HF21 is bad and the evil whales are only looking to make themselves richer, etc, etc, I figured I'd make a post asking people their views on the good parts about it and how they believe it will change our ecosystem. Now of course I'm not going to completely ignore you if you want to continue ranting about everything wrong with it in your opinion but I'm gonna give more attention to those talking about how the HF is going to improve our currency as I personally think it will much more than it has in the past.

Looking forward to some discussions, and if you're all read and talked out about it as I kinda am then feel free to discuss something else. I have an hour of free time right now which seems like something rare these days. 

### How do you think the hardfork will positively impact Steem? 

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@abh12345 ·
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Probably the funding for projects.  This should bring more skilled devs and interesting stuff to the fore which I think is what we need to bring value to Steem and STEEM.
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@tarazkp ·
$0.14
This is going to be an interesting addition.
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@abh12345 ·
Could you see this fund growing quite large and a proposal put forward to burn some of the unused funding?
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@abitcoinskeptic ·
$0.28
SPS may turn out some good things. Also, regressive reward curve1 should put an end to some kinds of annoying abuse like people just upvoting everything for 1%.
Communities may be nice but that's not really an hf21 feature, it would be like giving hf21 credit for me having a nice morning.

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@bitcoinflood ·
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That they should be finally starting work on SMT's
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@abh12345 ·
Winner :)
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@acidyo ·
Yeah they have from what they've been stating lately.
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@cryptopie ·
I don't think HF21 won't affect voting behavior but will certainly affect earnings for big account holders @acidyo.
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@edicted ·
I think the best part of HF21 will be the fact that Steemit Inc. isn't dead.

Every time Steem has been in the news it was about some disaster or another.  

I think when people find out the HF21 got pushed through they'll be asking themselves:

> Wait, wasn't Steemit Inc that company that fired 70% of their employees?  

[STINC Has Already Gone Bankrupt By Dot Com Standards](https://steemit.com/dot-com/@edicted/stinc-has-already-gone-bankrupt-by-dot-com-standards)

Just the fact that we are all still here trying to bring value to the community should be enough.
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@flemingfarm ·
$0.16
One thing at a time. That is what i want. Give us JUST the EIP and let's see how things ring out. I KNOW this is going to be a problem when we have a compendium of changes being enforced all at once.  The EIP could be good, but we won't know since the other changes are coming with it. You can't get accurate metrics when there are 10 other variables at play.
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@abh12345 ·
I believe the EIP is a 'compendium of changes'.  And honestly, I don't think they would work individually.

E.g. If just 50/50 was applied, what would be the reason for anyone to change their voting?  Providing 2.5 'free' flags is the encouragement to change, and altering the curve so (down)votes at the top have more of an effect compliments this.

The 4th component, although not really stated as part of the EIP, as far as i've read, is the auction window change from 15 minutes to 1 minute.  This could well make CR a lottery on posts that are piled on early, and could hopefully lead manual curators out to posts deserved of more reward, which are then moved up and start to snowball.  We will see :)
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@acidyo ·
One thing at a time will need more hardforks though, which will need all exchanges to replay and update their version and it's not the best time with the market barely being out of the bear cave to start annoying exchanges with needing an upgrade every month because we keep trying out other curves or curation penalties or percentages that go to the SPS.
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@flemingfarm ·
Then maybe we open up the testnet to everyone to test out and not just witnesses? Let us all see what the changes will look like before implementation? This whole "we have ideas, let's see what happens" mode is a bit frustrating. I would personally spend time dinking around the testnet to see what the ramifications of the hf are potentially going to be.
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@geekpowered ·
So it's lose lose. They either do so much there's a greater chance that shit breaks, or they annoy exchanges.

I think the tech guys at the exchanges will probably be more understanding than all of the Steem users. Though, as one of those tech types myself, though not at an exchange, I know they won't complain silently.
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@geekpowered ·
$0.11
There was probably one or two things in code that they finished first that they could have pushed and tried out in this time we've been waiting for everything to finish. They chose not to. They chose to do everything at once, just like last time. They want big chunky hard forks, rather than smaller ones.
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@freebornangel ·
My reading of the math tells me that little votes are getting smaller, bigger votes remain about the same, except that making smaller votes smaller will free up some of the pool to help keep larger votes larger.

I'm sure the decision to not label this a 'sublinear' reward curve was a great tactic.
Not real accurate, but great if your aim is to obscure.

The nice thing  about this hf is, even though the pool rakers will rake in even more than before, maybe the sps will set us free.
The question is how long will it take to fix the design features of this one, and what will the price be when that happens.
Cheap steem!
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@geekpowered ·
I'm looking forward to reading the comments on here. I can't even remember anything I'm really looking forward to. On the one hand, yeah 50/50 "curation" might help manual curation...but voting is not curation! Trending does not work. The whole idea that people would vote on good posts because they'll be more likely to be upvoted and they'd get paid more didn't work. The only way it might work is if people build tools for "curation" that are made for end users. Then people will upvote good posts on that tool, hoping to get the curation rewards as it gets more and more upvotes.

But I'll get to reading the comments and see if there's anything I look forward to and can't think of.

Oh, I'm looking forward to SMT's. I never believed SMT's were the magic bullet everyone seemed to think they are...but if I can ever get the time to play with them, I'd like to. While the SCOT team might think $1000 is cheap, most people don't have it just laying around to spend on making a community on Steem. Although, if done right, it probably would pay off.
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@gentleshaid ·
$0.26
I'm all for anything that will bring about a positive improvement to the chain. If STINC feels this is the best option for the steem ecosystem, then so be it. I can't really rant or take sides because I am a bit of both curator and author. Yes, I do not have much SP but the crumbs will get a big bigger with 50/50. I think it is a win-win for for everyone except those that are constantly powering down and cashing out.
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@lunaticpandora ·
You'll end up making more for holding and participating in the different communities! Curating content will also be more profitable as well. 
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@gentleshaid ·
Curating is going to be twice as profitable as it is now and we might finally be saying goodbye to bidbots
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@howo ·
Downvoting pool ! Sps ! 50/50 curation ! Yeeeey I love everything
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@lunaticpandora ·
$0.30
Most people are complaining because they are going to be getting less money but I believe that if you participate in the new communities popping around, you'll end up making about the same in author rewards, perhaps even more!

The 1 minute curation window is great as well to upvote comments and short posts I like without having to wait 15 minutes.

And I believe that the funding for development taken from the reward pool will eventually make the Steem you already hold increase in value, so you'll end up with more money anyways. 
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@markkujantunen · (edited)
$0.26
The 50/50 split between authors and curators will make it somewhat more lucrative to manually curate compared to selling votes outright. Manual curation is still work and vote selling is passive income but after HF21 manual curators will gain more from doing so. It's a simple fact that no one will power up if the ROI is not adequate. Even if an investor believed in STEEM as an investment, powering up would involve an opportunity cost without sufficient compensation. The 50/50 split will shift the incentives toward productive curation so I think that part will work out fine.
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@meesterboom ·
$0.25
Although I have issues with the source of the ten percent the SPS is getting I do agree with the SPS and think it will be a great thing. I look forward to some marketing getting funding for example.

And the free flags will be great for kaiboshing spam.
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@midlet ·
The thing I'm looking forward to the most is the SPS. I think it will be fun to see work being done on the chain. I'm also looking forward to it just being done so we can stop talking about it haha. 

All the other aspects I don't think will be the end of the world, I'm just a little blah about them.
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@mihirbarot ·
$0.06
Yeah as in terms of development we are doing something rather than other project in market they are doing nothing. HF 21 specially the SMT will be a major key to success for us that's for sure.

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@mindtrap ·
$0.35
Tbh When I first read about all the upcoming changes I thought it would be a disaster.

But if you closely check them one by one they all have something good, I just don't know how will it look like if they are applied all at once...

What I do like is the 50 - 50 split. I know that many are really upset about this change. It works perfectly fine on PALnet so why not on steem too. Supposedly that this will trigger big accounts to vote more...if not...it will be bad.

PS. That ! minute auction window...no matter how many discussions I've made so far I still think it's bad...
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@acidyo ·
$0.02
Nice to see you come around a bit as I remember you being very against it and vocal in the beginning of the announcement.
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@mindtrap ·
$0.14
Yeah I was...lots of us were. I assume it was the force of habit...You see Steemit /steem was introduced to me the way it is now. We still don't know how it will play out but since the new HF is just around the corner we have to find ways to make it work even if we don't like it.

PS. A comment about the Auction window? Would be cool to know your view on that. Not to mention that many people might still don't know about it...
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@organduo ·
I'm looking forward to 50/50 curation split a lot. I think abusers will think twice about posting shitposts and instead will curate more.
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@shuvo35 ·
Thanks share your valuable information.

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@soyrosa ·
$0.17
People like you finally getting some returns from your dedicated manual curating ;-)
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@jaki01 ·
$0.55
<em>Real</em> curators want to reward the authors, not themselves. ;-)

Many <em>manual</em> curators simply upvote what they <em>like</em> and don't care a lot about getting as much as possible curation rewards.
They do that also because they know that the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect">value of a (social) network</a> is measured among others by the number of its users, thus user retention is essential.
They try to increase the size of the cake instead of getting a bigger part of a cake which is getting smaller and smaller.

Unfortunately, with 50 % curation rewards it will be even harder for me to support users who don't receive many upvotes, because instead of rewarding them I will reward myself (with curation rewards) when upvoting them ...

I don't expect many whales to start curating manually. Instead of that they may join automated curation trails so that users who anyway are earning already quite some money will do even better.

Let's hope that I am wrong ...
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@soyrosa ·
$0.04
Hehe - yes, in this case I think Acid is a *real* curator - he's been doing it for years without expecting anything in return, manually even, so not even optimising curation rewards. For *him* specifically I don't mind his rewards go up. 

> I don't expect many whales to start curating manually. Instead of that they may join automated curation trails so that users who anyway are earning already quite some money will do even better.

Unfortunately I think so too :-( As I'm a 'real' content creator and not a Steem cheerleader I'm afraid I'll miss the boat as I might not be interesting enough to put on autovote. But we'll see. I hope for a tribe that will reward non-Steem-related content better than Steemit/peak/etc do now. 

Cheers!<div class="pull-right"><sub><a href="/steemreply/@arcange/introducing-steemreply-stay-in-touch-with-your-steem-network">Posted with <img src="http://steemreply.com/logo-comment.png"/></a></sub></div>
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@tarazkp ·
$0.28
This is the first time in Steem's history that the entire community has the responsibility to fight various types of abuse and have their say on rewards in the positive and negative. I am still skeptical the community will stand up but, that is on all of us.
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@travoved ·
$0.14
To make this HF positive team of Steem inc should more details to work out and bring to the public. And also listen to the opinions of others, not just members of Steem inc. 
And as right wrote @therealwolf today
> Steemit Inc. is an important building block for Steem, but our community is much bigger!

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@tsnaks · (edited)
$0.26
That curators will get paid more, which is good for authors aswell, because it gives incent for people to find good posts.
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@macchiata ·
So far that's what I got from reading various sources and opinion. Though many I read was disagreement post, in my understanding and ideally, people will curate more because they're being rewarded extra in this HF21. However from content creator's point of view, I know the percentage is down to 25% but I am still fairly confident that many will still constantly write here but we will see if this 50/50 system will create more engagement.
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@tsnaks ·
I don't plan on changing my posting routine because of getting less rewards.

I think it will balance out eventually and we will just start seeing bigger number upvotes on posts
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