How you interact in Finland by acidyo

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story · @acidyo · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

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How you interact in Finland

It's winter and you need to make your way into the city to get something that your town doesn't have. You feel the anxiety build up of having to potentially interact with people on your route and hate yourself for not having a car at this moment in time which would be a blessing for your safe space.

You put on your jacket and shoes and take a deep breath, look out of the peephole in your door to make sure the lights in the apartment are off cause if they are on it means that someone else might be on their way out and that's something you want to avoid. It seems safe so you open the door and take your first steps out after not remembering when the last time was. As you are about to call for the elevator you notice it's already on the way down so the only choice you have now is to take the steps down cause the odds of them heading for the same floor are 1 out of 5 and you know how unlucky you usually are.

On your way to the bus stop you see another person walking by you, this is where things get intense. You don't greet a stranger but at the same time it's rude not to greet someone you know, you now have to check as they are getting closer if it is someone you know without looking at their direction while they are figuring out if you are someone they know. You kind of look straight ahead and take a peak now and then, awkwardness is surely to ensue if you both look at the same time and realize none of you know each other. 

You remember that you should buy a drink for the bus but the risk that the bus driver will tell you something like "be careful not to spill that inside the bus" and face shame from the rest of the passengers or having to go inside the store and interact with the worker there might be too big to face. Your throat is really dry so you have to do it anyway. While inside the store looking for the smallest drink so the driver won't ever know you have it on you but at the same time make sure it has a cap so you can drink it in hiding, you hope no one you know happens to see you in the store and in worst case scenario come to the checkout at the same time when you are there waiting for your turn as that would probably require some small talk which no one in Finland has the ability to do. You take out your card and pay with your taxed income on a taxed drink and make your way to the bus.


http://finnishness.blogs.tamk.fi/files/2017/09/bussipysakki-jono-tampere-1024x576.jpg

When waiting at the bus stop you make damn sure you are not standing too close to someone else, you stop about 2 meters from the closest other person waiting for the bus and then stand there. You don't walk past that queue to wait on the other side cause that would just be weird, you wait as if it's a queue to hop onto the bus but leave enough room for others to be able to lay down if they wanted to in a line.




https://i.imgur.com/5psTmyK.jpg

When you hop in the bus you pray to whatever it is you believe in that there are two empty seats and that you don't have to sit beside someone. You realize the heavens have deserted you a long time ago and 3/4th's into the bus you notice that there are no double seats free cause everyone has taken one so now you have to sit beside someone and decide how much further you walk back or if it's disrespectful to the people close to you when you made the realization as they will wonder why you didn't just sit next to someone then and there. You try to quickly find the smallest person close to you and who doesn't have a bag in the seat next to them and sit down, you don't say a word. If you say something they will wonder if you know them or if you want to have a conversation, don't worry though cause 90% of the time they will have earphones on to protect them from any interaction. You sit down and realize you forgot yours so now all you can do is sit there in silence looking at your phone while the only other sound is the bus' engine. If you have don't have your phone charged you will find out what eternity feels like.

During the ride if a double seat becomes free close to you, it's not the polite thing to leave your neighbor and free him and yourself up. You just don't do that, it's like an unspoken agreement now and you both know it. If he is next to the window and is arriving at his spot you'll realize the only advantage to not having earphones with you that one day is that you can hear him rustle his bag or look towards your direction and you stand up without saying a word and when you sit back down you take the first breath since you left your apartment.

I am not joking.  

_____

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@acousticsteveo · Jan 20 '18

Is interacting with people really that painful? LOL.

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@activee · Jan 20 '18

nice snow scenery

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@adeboy1 · Jan 20 '18

What an interesting content, I like reading your post I always found it interesting.

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@afkar86 · Jan 20 '18

Must be very meticulous in the face of winter in preparing what is needed Post very useful post to face winter

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@afrinparbeen · Jan 20 '18

$1.70

Great post...it’s really funny that they put their earphones because they don’t want to ineraction with other.. @acidyo

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@acidyo · Jan 20 '18

It's the best invention for busrides ever.

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@agusscout · Jan 20 '18

The story of this day trip is very good friend. I live it when reading it, would not be fun. But even so we have to do it because it is what we have to do. Cool atmosphere with frozen ice snow, where I have only rainy and dry seasons. But actually we feel it may not be true, as we do not reprimand the person sitting on your way to the bus. Thank you for being my best friend.

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@alaminbinamir · Jan 20 '18

wow nice post dear @acidyo
excellend your story 
i follow it. thank you for sharing

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@alaminbinamir · Jan 22 '18

this post is vrey infermation
i like  your storys post
thank you @acidyo

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@allesia · Jan 26 '18 (edited)

I enjoyed reading your post... In my country, Romania, people are very sociable and kind, very polite and if we are in a bus, for exemple, and no one is talking is something unusual.

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@angeljuhi · Jan 20 '18

Yes we can understand buddy...Winter snowfall can go from beautiful to deadly in a matter of hours. Whether you're at home, on the road, or camping in the wilderness, and it's even the worst if you need to buy something from the place far from your home..as you said above...and yes cars can be a safe place at that time but even cars can be blocked by the snowfall...it's really dangerous situation buddy...God help them who is suffering problem like this...

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@anik-hassan · Jan 20 '18

Great story by Finland.

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@aqeelshehzad · Jan 20 '18

Wonderful ! Excellent post by @acidyo, In the Finland market, If you want to purchase any thing, there you are facing many personal quaestion that's are for relationship, for other world  this is not a good sign, but there's common question's, Where's from you, Where you are going now, Have you any Gf etc.... so in short, This is very amazing post, Thank you for sharing

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@arbazalam · Jan 20 '18

$2.72

I enjoy reading your post...nice to know about other countries..i was wondering why they don’t interact with other..in our country if we are in same bus we will like to talk,if we didn’t talk they think its rude..but different country different culture.

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@jackjohanneshemp · Jan 20 '18

a little more kindness and direct contact would improve the interactions a lot, I always try to be friendly and say a good day, but most of them look weird at me back, and get back to there ego .;

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@arbazalam · Jan 20 '18

Yep, it happens sometime..@jackjohnanneshemp

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@markkujantunen · Jan 21 '18 (edited)

I've used public transportation in several dozen different large cities in Europe and I haven't seen people talk much to strangers standing or sitting next to them. There may exist more extroverted cultures in places I have not visited but I can say that people don't talk to strangers on trains or buses anywhere in Western Europe. They don't talk much in Eastern Europe, either. I've traveled by train in Russia and Poland. This phenomenon is not particularly Finnish but maybe we are slightly more extreme in this compared to other Europeans. Despite this, I have never, and I mean _never_, had any difficulty finding someone to talk to on a train in Finland if I've been in a talking mood. If there is nobody near my seat who seems to be open to entertaining themselves by conversing with a stranger, I just go to the restaurant car, order a beer and sit down at or near a table where there is someone looking bored. 

It varies a great deal from person to person. When I visited Lombardy in Italy fifteen years ago, I was taken by surprise by how taciturn the locals seemed. They were not the incessant chatterboxes I had imagined most Italians would be. Perhaps in the South ... but I might be in for a disappointment again. ;)

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@artgirl · Jan 20 '18

$0.02

Seriously? That's for everyone in Finland? My gosh. I should go there so no one would bother me at all. Yay! 😀 But it's going to be lonely. 😣

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@markkujantunen · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

No, it's not everyone in Finland. Seriously. A larger percentage of us may be introverts than in most other countries but not everyone is like that.

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@artgirl · Jan 21 '18

@markkujantunen oh I see... Okay. That's cool. :)

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@pinay · Jan 21 '18

WHAT?! So I wont bother you anymore hahaha 😂😂😂

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@artgirl · Jan 21 '18

$0.02

WHAT!? No that's different because we know each other online already. Wahaha~

👍 pinay

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@avika · Jan 20 '18

$1.62

Wow really in finland like tht?

Its reall the people look stand behind other people with 2 meters space.

Are they dont like  to comunicate by stranger? How they make a friend? 

Thats very interesting thing i read from your post.. 

Mke me wnna know more abt finland.

👍 acidyo, lenatramper, arsenal49, robertvogt, triverse, kingxerxesdex

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@bashadow · Jan 20 '18

$0.27

A sadistic extroverts paradise.
Looking down the bus aisle he spots the perfect seat. Right next to an average guy in a p-coat with the seats across from him both empty. "Oh thank god a comfortable looking seat, do you mind? I'm jacob, I like people and you are..he ask the gentleman next to him, as he see him eyeing the two empty seats across the aisle...Such wonderful weather, i'm heading into the city because I need to buy some new undies this pair I have on are so full of holes and the wind is so cold I just can't keep my privates warm enough...how about you why are you heading into town? 

Finnish Headline News Channel, we interrupt our normal boring news with this story of a slightly elderly gentleman being  questioned as to why he suddenly turned and smacked the crap out of the individual sitting next to him on the bus..Sorry folks no real story we return to our normal boring news, it seems the smacked down guy was an extrovert, explains it all.

👍 markkujantunen, edb

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@bellydancegirl · Jan 22 '18

You made me remember those loooong, dark and cold mornings of commuting to school and college when I lived in Russia. It’s EXACTLY the same :))). I felt like I wa transported across the ocean and 20 years back. I’m not joking :)).

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@calatorulmiop · Jan 20 '18

I also get anxiety but not on that level. I feel bad for you because I know how crippling it can get sometimes.  Did you try getting any help to fix it?

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@charlescarter · Jan 20 '18

$0.18

This is quite strange, thank you for sharing so i can also tell my friends that wants to visit. It is also the same in Britain unlike Nigeria my country where the case is the opposite. It is rude not to responde to even stupid questions.lol
I enjoyed this piece.

👍 edb, markkujantunen, charlescarter

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@clarkk · Jan 20 '18

At first i thought it was all a fairytale not until i read till the end and saw'i am not joking ' if this is the behaviour and communication skill in Finland,goddammit,its sure a grave zone. How can such stuff go on as proper in humans head. Being in a bus with such silence and everyone feel okay with it and just earphone and engine bus makes the sounds, woah am happy knowing much about the scenerio in Finland and sure i never wana experience that even if i decide to visit there, and i will try observe for myself. Thanks for this awesome post 👏👏

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@coralbright · Jan 20 '18

Very cold

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@cristitaylor · Jan 20 '18

Amazing story dear thanks for sharing hope you will share more

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@cryptopie · Jan 20 '18

The bottom line while in Finland "Be nice and sweet but not too sweet"
I remember when I was boarding a bus I would say " Wait I have a leg strain" and actually I am not but at that time y body is beginning to weaken and stiffen due to my condition. Other people will make me seat in theseat for the disabled

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@dandesign86 · Jan 20 '18

$0.16

I can associate a lot with this coming from Sweden. I think social anxiety
Is kind of enhirited in this northern part of the world. It's a natural evolution that has come about from a hostile environment where the cold keeps us inside most of the year and where the low density on people has put your neighbor far enough that you don't have to bump into them on a daily basis. 

It's quite hard to get to know someone In Scandinavia.  There is a big distance that has to be broken down. Once you close this distance however i find we can still be very social. 

A big problem in my life is that I want company of friends but I prefer solitude. I think internet is both a blessing and curse for social phobia. We can reach our to others but we might start preferring this means of communication more than meeting up in real life. 

Very interesting post and I like when someone shares so openly , it allows for others to dare and do the same

👍 markkujantunen, damira

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@charitybot · Jan 20 '18

I think you're right, and there's the problem where you've satisfied some of the social needs for bonding but can't do other things like bro-hugs that also have healthy positive benefits. Maybe we should start a tele-bro-hug ico? And on top of that it's kind of a convenient excuse to not go outside, which means less exposure to sunlight, which means more depression, and...

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@dandesign86 · Jan 20 '18

Hehe indeed a vicious cycle . Haha tel bro hug ICO sound like fun lol

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@deadspace · Jan 20 '18

$2.58

> During the ride if a double seat becomes free close to you, it's not the polite thing to leave your neighbor and free him and yourself up.

I mean, I guess I could see that bothering someone if you've been sitting next to them for several minutes then get up the first chance you can, as they'll feel like it's something with them. But, I'd still do it anyways because fuck being next to strangers :D

Also, I'm glad I'm not the only person on this site that has some anxiety issues. Haven't really seen anyone on here talk about this kind of stuff. Then again, I'm pretty much a god damn hermit at this point.

👍 acidyo, deadspace

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@acidyo · Jan 20 '18

$0.30

Anxiety is our middle name, the only cure is alcohol.

👍 deadspace, eveuncovered

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@deadspace · Jan 20 '18

Yep, gonna have to say I agree considering I have 2 bottles of whiskey and a bottle of vodka in the kitchen right now, lol.

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@dedicatedguy · Jan 20 '18

$2.68

I know what you mean since sometimes I feel the same. Those forced conversations we need to have with people on the street are a burden on the soul.

👍 acidyo, pharesim

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@dilkash · Jan 20 '18

Ha I know much about the finland now..sure to visit there soon.. nice descriptions of finland..I enjoy reading this post.😊

👍 afrinparbeen, dilkash

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@djkhaled · Jan 20 '18

Wow, is all I have to say. Such attention to detail in this small skit. It felt so real as if I was living it too. You’re a great writer let me tell you. Had me at the edge of my seat the whole time. It just seemed so real as if I was living it too. Great little story my friend. As always Much Love and Respect! Your friend DDJJ KKHALEDD #BlessUp

👍 djkhaled

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@dontstopmenow · Jan 20 '18

Wow this is very interesting to me. I really enjoy learning from different cultures. 

When I was traveling by local buses in Samoa in the Pacific Islands, when all seats were taken, people would go and sit on a strangers lap. 

Here in Uruguay buses are packed af and you have to go rubbing against somebodies ass, not cool.

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@dragonking · Jan 20 '18

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@dromzz · Jan 22 '18

This post in 2 words: You don't.

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@dyinkfinity · Jan 20 '18

$0.02

I agreed to @pinay we filipinos love to interact though we talk to strangers. Smile back when someone smiles at you. And always saying *Hi* or *Kumusta ka?* *(How are you?)* To someone you know whom you bumped into. Hehe

>When you hop in the bus you pray to whatever it is you believe in that there are two empty seats and that you don't have to sit beside someone. 

But I must admit that I sometimes thought of this, oh people needs to have some *Me time* in the bus as well. 😂

👍 pinay

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@edb · Jan 20 '18

> When you hop in the bus you pray to whatever it is you believe in that there are two empty seats and that you don't have to sit beside someone. 

That's the [Finnish fear](https://www.reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/3rvmx9/finnish_fear/).

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@egleskoks · Jan 20 '18

$0.14

Very interesting. I am from Latvia, and also a little bit more introverted than I would like to be. Nevertheless, 2 meters interval from each other in the bus stop is too much, I would prefer 1-1,5 meters :)

Is it rude to talk to strangers in Latvia? More often than no, because of the soviet past - then talkative strangers were often suspected be government agents. After the war, it was taught to every child: Don't you ever talk with strangers! Perhaps, this is why we now often cannot feel comfortable appraching complete strangers with probable cause :) 

On the other hand, it is not so extreme than in Finland. If some stranger asks some Latvian native something, most probably they will receive a more or less respectful answer, though no too long.

I have a theory: the farther to the north, the more isolated are people, saving the communication for really close friends and neccessary situations. Where there is more sun, people are more open and friendly, at least at the first contact. On the other hand, ir seems that they lie more and with less effort in the south :)

👍 markkujantunen

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@markkujantunen · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

I don't think the northern preference for large personal space is the result of a historical reality of too little proximity but the exact opposite. You see, only a century ago most Finns had large families and lived in small cabins. Because the long, cold and dark winters much time was spent indoors. There was little to do outdoors except for feeding the cattle and shoveling their shit once a day anyway. Those cabins were unbelievably cramped for space by modern standards. Because there was very little personal space in a physical sense, it had to be arranged by learning the art of <i>studied indifference</i> to provide one another a much needed sense of personal space. In this sense, Finns and other northern peoples are like submariners who have been forced to learn the mode of interaction @acidyo aptly described. Repeated over hundreds of generations this type of behavior has become deeply ingrained culturally - and perhaps genetically in northern peoples.

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@egleskoks · Jan 21 '18

This is a good argument. The same for Latvia a century or two ago, and lack of personal space. And yes, in Finland the winters are colder and darker and longer than here. Lack of sunlight does not help anybody.

Now I am wondering about Russian far north - is it the same at the same latitutes? Russians are notorious for comparatively small personal spaces...

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@emmaculate · Jan 20 '18

Nice experience on Finland

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@eveuncovered · Jan 20 '18

Haha so true! Though I have to disagree with the last part, you definitely have to take the available double seat if you have the chance!

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@ezinwakenneth · Jan 20 '18

very helpful information and write ups

with these post it makes it easy to relate to other people in  other country even without been there.

hope to visit finland and other countries would love more description of other countries.

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@fazlehassan · Jan 20 '18

wow,,what a wonderful story it is..its also very knowledgeable..so thanks for sharing..i am waiting for your next post....great job

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@fortunee · Jan 20 '18

I am from Lithuania, so very close to Finland, and we can be named cold, not hospitable people, but we never look at stranger as you described in your posty.

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@egleskoks · Jan 21 '18

Luthanians are the most extroverted and communicable of all Baltic people and the best merchants. And Finns are the best programmers :D

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@fred777bear · Jan 24 '18 (edited)

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I'm deleting my comments.
Being down voted by Content censoring whales sucks
and hurts minnows who only earn 0.01 per post/comment anyhow
This whale BS will kill STEEM imho

👍 fred777bear

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@funatoz · Jan 20 '18

Hay @acidyo in the whole post I was just wondering want is going on is this all today happening with you and it's something that happened with everyone everyday and we can't give any attention towards it and yes it's the life while reading all these it's seems strange but it's true we live like that.

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@funbobby51 · Jan 20 '18

Wait a minute, they don't have Amazon in Finland?

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@funbobby51 · Jan 20 '18

I love it, the Fins are like New Englanders but better!

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@generation · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

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Daamn, I felt like you were describing me. Except that was me many years ago. Now I am awkward in a different way. It's interesting to see how alike we humans are :) 

By the way, this was well thought out and very original. Who would of thought to write something like this.  Nice job mate!

👍 acidyo, pharesim

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@gniksivart · Jan 20 '18

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Maybe I read it wrong, but here in the US I've always thought it was considerate to switch to an empty row if one frees up to give you both some more room.

Most people here in the US will actually put there bags in the empty seat until the bus starts to fill up and someone has to ask if they can sit there so they are forced to move the bag. LOL

I'm an introvert myself so I like that this is the social norm.

👍 markkujantunen

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@godslove · Jan 20 '18

Interesting story though a joke because when a person is joking, he will say "I am not joking" but when he is not joking, he will not say it.

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@gratefulforitall · Jan 20 '18

I got some heavy anxiety just reading this. It sounds hellish.

A friend on mine went to work in Finland for a year or so and he told me that in the winter it was very common for people to open their window, yell out out it--at the top of their lungs--and a few seconds or minutes later hear someone else do the same in response. Apparently people go back and forth a few times and this is how they cope with extreme loneliness. I found this very hard to believe. In fact, I laughed out loud when he told me. But reading this article now made his story more credible to me.

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@markkujantunen · Jan 20 '18

What??

I've never seen that happen.

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@gratefulforitall · Jan 21 '18

It sounds really crazy, but I've never been to Finland, so I couldn't dismiss it as not true lol

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@gtrplayer · Jan 20 '18

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I used to suffer a lot of anxiety myself.  I still do to some extent, but age and maturity help a lot.  As you get older, you become more comfortable in your own skin and less sensitive to what other people think.  I eventually became content with myself the way I am.  I'm not perfect and not this or that, but I am who I am and I'm happy with that.

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@jackjohanneshemp · Jan 20 '18

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Being yourself is a nice thought, although we are sometimes accounted for. if I want to sell a work of art to a gallery, I'm going to wear a tie and pulled it back, while with my friend I am completely myself an more open, dont see meself give the gallery owner a hug  
although I am always pretty satisfied with myself, although everyone has a wrong side, nice comment

👍 gtrplayer

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@gtrplayer · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

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That's true.  There are certain societal norms and customs we have to follow in order to be successful.  During the work week, I take a shower in the morning, dress nicely and show up at the office on time.  On weekends, I may very well sleep late, not shower on one of the days and dress like a hobo.  Regardless of where I am, I try to be true to myself.  

The point I was trying to make is that I found that as I got older, I became less anxious.  Drinking and drugs are not the way to handle it.  Age and maturity really help, and I've also recently gotten into meditation, which I think is very helpful.

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@halcyondaze · Jan 20 '18

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> You feel the anxiety build up of having to potentially interact with people

😂😂😂. My British friend described an interaction almost EXACTLY like this.

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@halcyondaze · Jan 20 '18

I feel for you

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@hitmeasap · Jan 20 '18

You could easily live in Sweden too. It's the same thing here. :D

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@howo · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

Woaaah I saw some memes of finns waiting in a bus stop like this but I never expected it to really be like this all the time. Then how do you guys socialize ? Only if there is a third party to introduce you ?

Also if you guys are a lot waiting for a bus stop, what do you do ? spread 2 meters each until you can't see the bus stop or do you start to arrange yourselves in a square ?

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@husainiamin · Jan 20 '18

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All I know about finland is a character named marti artisari and the capital of helsinki. Because the city is a history of GAM and Indonesia peace

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@ibrahim1989 · Jan 20 '18

Please follow me and like my posts

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@isnochys · Jan 20 '18

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As an introvert, this is so my thing. I behave very finnish.

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@malos10 · Jan 20 '18

This was exactly what i was thinking, this is an introvert person perspective! 

I'm really confident in my self so i dont agree with this perspective but i was something really interesting  to read

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@jackjohanneshemp · Jan 20 '18

When the outside world sees a flurry of herd thinking and greed. 
When communicating fidelity occurs you, if you give the bus driver a good day with a smile, while you show the ticket. 
When the flock of greed and ego crowd fight for a seat. 
When waiting for the bus,  is just like your first meeting with extraterrestrials.

Then I'm glad that I've got to know steemit with more open-minded people. Then I'm glad it does not snow so often here, although rain is just as bad for me. 
Then I am glad that I can order most things online and have them delivered  Then I am glad that I can still make a choice 24/24 from various night shops at 1km.

I am happy that we have very large buses here, although they can sometimes be overcrowded during rush hour

Find your blog very recognizable, though the weather conditions are not that bad over here. I have enjoyed reading  it, and in one way or another very recognizable for me. 

My  last cocoon moments for me were, second life and wow, though steemit is also starting to look like it hahaha
If interested in our [buses](https://www.delijn.be/en/) but I doubt that earlier

Already look forward to your next route blog, greetings from [Ghent](https://stad.gent/ghent-international)

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@jagr · Jan 20 '18

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Haha, I wouldn't have believed that people in a line would have 2 meters of space from the next, if it weren't for those pictures. Just out of curiosity, is everyone generally introverted there?

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@acidyo · Jan 20 '18

Sure seems that way. The only places you can meet and get to know people are in school, work or the club, else you're just a stranger.

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@jahangirwifii · Jan 20 '18

![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmczSy7PmqLX3RGQFAUcmcV2Czp3VZR6ZsAj6Z7WHdpY9x/image.png)

Zhenjiang, Guangdong, China.

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@jarvie · Jan 23 '18

See that's a cool insight into life somewhere different. Kudos. 
And thanks for liking my pics.

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@jeezzle · Jan 20 '18

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Wow is this the way everyone feels in Finland?   It must be difficult to have any social interactions there.

 I can definitely be a bit introverted myself.

 I can tell you if you ride the bus here in Texas someone's likely to put their arm around you and pull you close to them and start telling you how they feel about something like the president or politics.

I'm not sure which situation I prefer.

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@acidyo · Jan 20 '18

That would be a nightmare for us Finns.

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@markkujantunen · Jan 20 '18

I'm an extrovert but someone pulling their arm around me and telling me how Trump is going to make America great again is a horrific thought. :D

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@markkujantunen · Jan 20 '18

<i>Wow is this the way everyone feels in Finland? It must be difficult to have any social interactions there.</i>

Not me.

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@jerome-morales · Jan 20 '18

I enjoyed reading the story, I felt I was reading a great novel, you're very articulate and very precise in presenting your ideas. Awesome work @acidyo!

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@josteem · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

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![48396A29-5A53-482E-A975-C9FBAA70B32E.jpeg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmRf6koGi1sjRxGWEW9BcVecdeDSr19CoBYyFaL1EyPSfN/48396A29-5A53-482E-A975-C9FBAA70B32E.jpeg)

I have been living in Sweden for the last 10 years , visiting Finland and all Scandinavia.. and I can tell the culture is al ost the same everywhere. Look isolated. Scandinavian look so with stranger, but once you really got to know each other, it’s a game changer..become so much friendly. I think that is a respectful honesty. Not to mention opposite cultures in another places where stranger just say untrue but beautiful words to strangers whom they met for the first time e.g. “hi friend”, “ Hi bro” .... when they are not friends or brothers to call each other so, not to mention how street scammers usually  use such unhonest words .. so even some people don’t appreciate the Scandinavian isolated culture , but  because they look at it from outside. If you spend time with them like me, one can really doff the hat to their honest culture .. just wanted to share my experience with people here reading this post. 
Cheers 🍻

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@junebride · Jan 20 '18

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the entire time while reading this blog, I hoped you found someone you know of so you can atleast talk and smile. I was hoping this was just a joke but you said you were not joking.

In the Philippines, we talk a lot, we smile and laugh even to strangers. Not talking results to bad breath :D

👍 pinay

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@kaykunoichi · Jan 20 '18

The anxiety is reeeal man lol

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@khalilmaulana · Jan 20 '18

Good post ! Travel to finland is my dream :D

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@kingsberry · Jan 20 '18

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All in all, us Finns have a weird sense of humor. We love sarcasm and dry jokes. Your situation might get tricky only when you take a Finn’s statement literally, and only after several minutes start to wonder, whether it was a joke or not. This is a thing you simply must learn to embrace.

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@acidyo · Jan 20 '18

Hehe, cool didn't know you were Finnish as well!

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@kingxerxesdex · Jan 20 '18

I think it happens anywhere and not only in a certain country. Even here in the Philippines you ca experience it. Some people always shows a same character anywhere in the world.

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@kristves · Jan 20 '18

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It's pretty much the same in Estonia!
Our cultures are so similar, languages are similar (although we don't understand eachother until we're both drunk - again, culture similarities), etc.

Greetings and love from your little sister - Estonia!

👍 markkujantunen

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@lindiry · Jan 21 '18

Hah, that was a funny story and a lot of it is so true! :D However, it is not that bad here. I guess it depends on a personality.

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@livinguktaiwan · Jan 20 '18

Interesting...   I wonder if social interactions in different cultures have anything to do with geography?

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@lucentbritex · Jan 20 '18

So, why doesn't anyone want to speak to another? Why don't you?

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@acidyo · Jan 20 '18

It's just not something that we do.

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@lucentbritex · Jan 20 '18

Somehow, there has to be a reason.

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@madushanka · Jan 20 '18

I have never meet Finland people yet, met only your nearest country Sweden friends last month. SO I have no idea how to interact in Finland. But I guess Its very informative to hopeful visitors.

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@markkujantunen · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

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There are many kinds of people in this country. I had a very different experience today. My family and I moved on Thursday. Today, the doorbell rang and there was a lady with a six-year-old boy at the door. She told us she lived in the house across the street and wanted to welcome us to the neighborhood. She gave my wife a bouquet of flowers and we all had a nice chat. My wife asked her and her husband to visit us after we're done unpacking.

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@markwhittam · Jan 20 '18

One Word....... Taxi :)

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@markzuckerbergs · Jan 20 '18

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@meanmommy33 · Jan 22 '18

Oh. My. God. -*FINLAND*- I love it ahahahaha!!! I can't think of something similar in DK, probably only the fact that they all stand in one queue at the post office even though there are 2 cashiers :P [yes, I always go to the empty one :P ]

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@mieja · Jan 20 '18

>You don't greet a stranger but at the same time it's rude not to greet someone you know,

Gosh, this is one of the most dreadful situations I experience when I go out. Do I greet them and risk getting ignored, or ignore them and look like a snob? Is there even some sort of etiquette to this? 
Kudos to you for putting it into exact words.

👍 mieja

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@mirzacho · Jan 20 '18

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![image](https://img.esteem.ws/cdrhsf53rq.jpg)

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@misc.jocs · Jan 20 '18

good post, I will be looking at your profile, I will follow you and give you some votes, I would appreciate it if you also help me friend!

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@nilanti · Jan 20 '18

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traveling to finland is very easy. Finnish customs and manners are clearly European, with only a few national variations, and attitudes are liberal.all the rules and regulation traveling to finland is easy for us.i want to visit there very soon in finland.nice description of finland story.

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@nonameslefttouse · Jan 20 '18

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So ***that's*** why your junior hockey team seems so damn quiet on the ice when they play in the world tournament and try to beat us Canadians...

*Interesting.*

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@penking · Jan 20 '18

Almost everypoint here is differentfrom what is obtainable in Nigeria. Different countries, different norms

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@pinay · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

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OMG this is opposite of how we interact in the Philippines. We talk to strangers just like family members. Only few are snobbish (I am one of them. LOL! I don't want to be hypnotized by scammers/thieves and all the "bad elements").

I am laughing here while reading... "leaves enough room for others to lay down if they wanted to in a line." I imagine someone laying down.
(^_^)

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@raihan12123 · Jan 20 '18

Amazing story.Thanks for sharing it.

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@ramdacu49 · Jan 20 '18

My country does not have snow how cold your country I want to feel it

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@ramdacu49 · Jan 20 '18

My country does not have snow how cold your country I want to feel it

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@redtravels · Jan 21 '18 (edited)

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You living in Finland? I just got a friend from Finland to join steemit! Nice! He's opening an account right now, will take him some time though. I know quite many Finnish people, don't know why... I went on an roadtrip with two finnish girls from Barcelona to Munich last december, was awesome!

Now about the post, I would say the bus thing in germany is really similar, but talking to them, either you get someone who enjoy a short chat or someone who just dislikes it completely :D

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@markkujantunen · Jan 21 '18 (edited)

As I wrote earlier, none of this is uniquely Finnish. What is typically Finnish is thinking that many common things are typically Finnish. But I've heard many other peoples are under the same illusion about many things, too.

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@rohit12123 · Jan 20 '18

Wonderful story..

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@rubeldas · Jan 20 '18

well story i like it keep it up.....thanks for shearing

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@ryacha21 · Jan 20 '18

It seems that Finland is very cold now...

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@sadpotato · Jan 20 '18

Is it like some kinda secret autism station... or...?? :DD
But I can relate to your story, I'm a total nerd that doesn't like to go anywhere. And people... they are all insane and want to look at me or ask their strange questions. They are scary. I don't like them. I don't want to talk to them. They are mean!!

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@dromzz · Feb 13 '18

Yes, Finland is an autism station.

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@saharia · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

Wow .Nice information about finland. @acidyo 
100% like and resteem.

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@san190 · Jan 20 '18

very nice story.......

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@senteno77 · Jan 20 '18

great, I hope travel to finland the next year

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@sevinwilson · Jan 20 '18

This was intense! The whole time I felt like I was right there with you on the bus! The image of people standing 2 meters apart from each is interesting. The lengths that we go to in order to not to interact with others is continuing to increase. At least you can get on Steemit and create a post while others sit staring at Facebook on their phone!

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@sisygoboom · Jan 20 '18

I'd heard Finnish culture has a reputation for this kind of over-politeness almost to the point of social anxiety.

I heard you don't form lines but instead wait in different parts of the room to have as much personal space as possible, having to manually keep track of who's next to be served - is that true?

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@markkujantunen · Jan 21 '18

No. 

There are lines where lines need to be formed unless the place where there used to be lines has implemented a waiting number system.  Waiting number systems are very common at medical clinics, government offices, banks and other institutions where there are waiting areas.

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@sizuka · Jan 20 '18

![DQmQMdBpVvZQQ6MGGvNhEEYgPjUCMpBwqKutVZBvJHUjcTA_1680x8400.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmcvfhP6BkV9cLhkWkhx8VSfhjZzyGwLkAvSW32QUHWNwW/DQmQMdBpVvZQQ6MGGvNhEEYgPjUCMpBwqKutVZBvJHUjcTA_1680x8400.png)

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@snrm · Jan 20 '18

It really is the simplest thing about just sitting on the bus, but I am definitely like this too where I just overthink the shit out of it. Can never forget the headphones.

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@stansolo · Jan 20 '18

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Wow! That's an amazing story. As an Englishman Living in Thailand, it's almost the complete opposite. Out here it widely encouraged to talk to complete strangers. As an example, if you are buying food at the local markets, you can expect to be asked numerous personal questions like, "Where do you live?", "Do you have a girlfriend yet?" and "Where are you going now?". To not respond to these questions, no matter how personal could be considered rude as this is the norm in Thai culture. 

I can totally relate to this story though as I used to live in London and take a 40 minute ride to work on the underground train every day, it was very similar. Thousands of people in close proximity, all avoiding eye contact with their heads down and their earphones in. 

Great post, thanks for sharing!

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@acidyo · Jan 20 '18

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![Screenshot_20180120-073807.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmXrc3EFjXWqjWumTQXab4SCcgDVB1hyxQS4JaGaRoFWon/Screenshot_20180120-073807.png)

Haha had to share this coincidence of two similar opinions in a row. :)

and thanks! Yeah, things get very different fast depending on where you live and can be quite a cultural shock when abroad.

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@stansolo · Jan 20 '18

Thanks for sharing! Cultures in different countries has always been so interesting for me. Part of the reason I wanted to live in Asia. Have a great day!

👍 stansolo

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@penking · Jan 20 '18

I would love to visit both thailand and Finlqnd one day to appreciate this striking contrast forsthand😁😁

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@steemcaster · Jan 20 '18

Quite chilling i must say, seems like the perfect place to run mining rigs and cut down on cooling costs, endearing place really. Hope to visit someday.

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@stockhausen · Jan 20 '18

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Haha, as a norwegian, I can really relate to this. awesome post! :D

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@sulev · Jan 20 '18

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sounds like Estonia

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@markkujantunen · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

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Yep. The entire North of Europe is like this. In my experience, people tend to be a little more open to contact with strangers in Southern Europe but not hugely so.

👍 edb

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@sungbojus · Jan 20 '18

Ha! What have we become! Thinking robots. Robots with emotions. This is really what the society has become, especially since the advent of the cell phone and social media.

We throw glances at people, wishing they don't see us; we hurry away from humans we should share with; we suspect humans when they come close; we avoid human contact as if all are disease-carriers ... 

Humanity is dying a slow death, a very slow one...

@acidyo Thank you for bringing this to our realisation. But the big question is, '*Who will save us from us?'*

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@teenovision · Jan 20 '18

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Finland is a great place to visit people stay very relaxed and happy

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@the-dagda · Jan 20 '18

I think I'd fit in well in Finland. Although that queuing for the bus thing might get on my nerves fairly quick, and it looks kind of creepy or something.

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@the.human.union · Jan 20 '18

This story speaks of  incredible challenge, the depth of which I have not known, yet I sense the fear, shame, and the un-nameable pain...yet your expression of this well articulated piece,
 you have written, is a healing,  a  maybe is a sign your slowly finding a safe place inside.
Kudos for sharing yourself so profoundly.
Lynn

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@themadgoat · Jan 20 '18

Suddenly I feel much better about all my problems.

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@therneau · Jan 20 '18

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The life and times of an introvert, borderline hermit...

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@universalpro · Jan 20 '18

Wow loved your post...loved reading it....it's amazing....thank you for sharing have a good day.

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@utpolbiswas · Jan 20 '18

excellent story, very nice post,  thanks for sharing

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@vnyrox · Jan 20 '18

It’s no secret that Finland suffers from some pretty dark and gloomy winters but, come the summer, the country lives up to its nickname as the Land of the Midnight Sun.  My friend visited the north of the country during the months of June and July and he told me that  the sun never drops below the horizon. Awesome Share @acidyo

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@wandereronwheels · Jan 20 '18

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Damn! So people don't have/make friends in Finland?

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@acidyo · Jan 20 '18

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I just replied to this in my last comment. :)

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@wandereronwheels · Jan 21 '18

I thought I was the first one to comment on this post. Damn you internet xD

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@xabi · Jan 20 '18

In the bus, without your head phones and a Stubborn child starts weeping while his mother try to do her best to appease him.....
Then you will now what real headache means...lol

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@xanga · Jan 20 '18

God has created beautiful thing and made tree the most spectacular one ,this observation is nice

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@yaan · Jan 20 '18

Holy shit, that is deep. Even I felt a little bit of anxiety right now.
Nah, no way it can be like that, is it? 
It must be just the look from the eyes of introvert who was working at home for a long time :d

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@yanes94 · Jan 20 '18

wow is like tin for me everything you tell about Finland, I say it because here in Venezuela is the opposite. Here everyone is stuck to the other in the queues, always talking to everyone whether they know each other or not, almost always is like that.

But hey, each country has its customs.

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@yousuf786 · Jan 20 '18

it is very interested.....

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@yukimaru · Jan 20 '18 (edited)

$0.36

>When waiting at the bus stop you make damn sure you are not standing too close to someone else, you stop about 2 meters from the closest other person waiting for the bus and then stand there.

Quite a bit hard to do that especially here in the Philippines. :v
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[Source](http://megacities-go-services.com/layout/set/print/Manila/Manila-Daily-Survive-Manila/Getting-Around-Traffic-Public-Transport-and-more)

👍 yukimaru

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@charitybot · Jan 20 '18

$0.18

Lol at that point whose conversation aren't you a part of.

👍 yukimaru

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