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RE: PCR Inventor & Nobel Prize Winner: "Fauci Is An Ignorant Liar With an Agenda & Has Too Much Power" by acidyo

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· @acidyo ·
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I wouldn't say Hive was built for anarchists, just that that was the general crowd it managed to gather early on and a lot of stake in anarchist's wallets possibly, much still left today. Either way, Hive is for anything and everything but doesn't mean that anything/everything needs to be rewarded as much.

and yeah, most people know my stance on autovotes in general, they're not great, and while I do downvote some posts here and there, sometimes my own or have learned to forfeit rewards on some posts, downvotes aren't fun for anyone involved and may need some fine-tuning eventually. For now they're not that common and most are used carefully/without malicious intent/ulterior motives or as revenge, but they're quite needed in some cases even with the headaches they may bring to both the downvoter and the downvoted person. 

Either way, it's difficult to trust you're doing this for the immutability considering your cries of censorship in the past (even when posts were only downvoted days after most of the attention they'd get from hot/trending), you accepting rewards on possible reposts and self-voting them and stating you're just doing this to bring traffic to Hive from #web2.  
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@ura-soul ·
Hive was an anarcho capitalist design by Dan & Ned - They stated it many times in public and it was part of how it was sold to the world. That's why it attracted anarcho people. 

Those people gradually left as other minded people came in and tried to mess with the design without an appreciation for actual freedom. What is rewarded is up to the community and always has been. As I have said before, the free downvotes are a reasonable idea up to a point, but they currently are way too open to abuse - basically they should be reduced in scale. Just as the valuation of upvotes on posts is subjective, so is downvoting - so what appears to be abusive downvoting to one person may not be to someone else. 

Since I built the downvote monitoring tool I can see very well who downvotes who and I am sure that most people never see that data. To me I am pretty clear that there is a wealth of abusive downvoting happening regularly.

As far as autovoting goes, I have no idea who autovotes me, I have never asked for it.. but none the less it was used as a phoney excuse to shut down discussion of serious scientific matters by people who's agenda seems extremely shady.

Of course I am uploading to 3speak for immutability, I know the people that run it and so have far more trust in it than any other video service. Everyone I know who has sought to share information that is counter to the gov position has been partially or totally cancelled from Web 2 sites - in fact I know people who fared far worse than that too and who barely survived physically. I am also sharing for reach and to propagate information.

Aside from possibly reposting some videos, which no-one has actually demonstrated but which may have happened - nothing I have done violates any rules (even the made up ones that the community never agreed to and that no contract exists for).

Far more concerning to me than any rewards is the mindset here to be honest. I mentioned my time in hospital because I am clear that the vast majority of people, having been through that, would not see life in the same way again and would be far more of my current mindset.

In the grand scheme of things, money is completely meaningless and 99% of what humans are doing on Earth is pointless - the only thing that is important is learning about ourselves to heal ourselves and to not get caught up in the trap of limiting thinking and in particular, other people's attempt to limit and control us... which leads only to our own demise every single time. People who don't understand this (which is most people it seems) are probably not people I should be around any more.

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@acidyo ·
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> To me I am pretty clear that there is a wealth of abusive downvoting happening regularly.

Show us some examples, I'd gladly counter and have done so in the past when I deem them over the top/abusive (even from the same accounts who've downvoted you in the past) the difference of those authors were that they didn't throw a hissy fit, try to shit on the platform that's rewarded them for years and attempt to create gray lines of what censorship means when you well know there's people literally being censorshipped on #web2 and whole nations.

> it was used as a phoney excuse to shut down discussion of serious scientific matters by people who's agenda seems extremely shady.

How do you shut down discussion when most downvotes happen 2-5 days late and more often than not have close to no engagements up til then? Maybe this isn't specifically you as you've been around the ecosystem and active in the community/other parts of Hive but most of the people you/resonator support/supported were literal ghost accounts. Even some of my posts that have hundreds of comments stop receiving any comments after a few days.

It's really hard to take you seriously when your arguments are this weak.
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@ura-soul · (edited)
> Show us some examples

It's 6:30 am here and I have been up all night in this conversation - I will come back to that when I can - maybe tomorrow.

> the difference of those authors were that they didn't throw a hissy fit,

I am not aware of a single person who had their account totally nuked after having invested years into the network who didn't get angry. You are comparing apples and oranges.

> attempt to create gray lines

We have been over this many times. Censorship clearly includes any attempt to reduce the reach of a message, which downvoting does and which is part of the entire purpose and function of downvoting. Any other interpretation is denying something that is key. Yes, Web 2 is worse - but then at least they are up front about being biased.

> How do you shut down discussion when most downvotes happen 2-5 days late and more often than not have close to no engagements up til then?

I made a post at the time showing that my posts at that time had been generating a factor of multiple times more comments than all of the top posts at that time. Yet I was told no-one was interested in them. Some posts didn't get many comments - as do almost all of the posts on Hive. Any heavy downvoting restricts reach and potential conversation. Just the downvoting in and of itself just winds people up and they leave the entire site. I guess if you don't know people who are interested in 'truth' then you won't have noticed or felt similar.

>  most of the people you/resonator support/supported were literal ghost accounts

I have no idea who you are talking about here. Every post was manually curated and deliberately picked for being a verifiably real person. Marky is currently downvoting everything by Jeff Berwick (The person who Dan and Ned rewarded with thousands of dollars for one post and who is the reason why I and many people ever even heard about Steem). Jeff has built an entire TV site powered by Hive, but apparently that's not good enough.. Ok then. I don't agree with everything he says but he probably has more resources and spark of life than 99% of people anyone here will ever meet and his objectives are totally aligned with Hive's .. But still. not good enough because.. reasons..

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