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Statement regarding Twitter API changes concerning POSH by acidyo

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· @acidyo ·
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Statement regarding Twitter API changes concerning POSH
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**Twitter released some info on their API changes which means the current ones we've been using will deprecate in a month:**

https://twitter.com/TwitterDev/status/1641222782594990080

With the announced Basic tier the API requests are fairly limited and won't fill our needs. We are currently doing about 30x more requests more per month and growing. While we're going to apply for the third Enterprise tier it's uncertain if we'll be accepted and if we are accepted if the costs are manageable. 

Best case scenario, we're accepted and the price is manageable (under 4 digits hopefully) to fill our needs. Then if our requests grow more and so does the price (if they have flexible price options) we'll determine if it's worth paying for it based on the value POSH is/may bring/ing to hive.

Worst case scenario, they deny our enterprise application or the costs are just too absurd (read somewhere some saying it's $42k/month) and we have to stop part of our Twitter operations.

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#### How POSH is affected if we can't access their API's

This means the comments of shares won't work anymore, @poshtoken won't be able to fetch data of POSH-eligible tweets to place the embedded links under the posts that are shared. This would also not allow us to distribute tokens based on that method anymore and all the scoring we've developed over time on how the daily tweets earn POSH and also Hive from upvotes on the comment shares will stop.

There's some things we can salvage from it, people can still share embedded tweets themselves and we can continue to curate such shares with @poshtoken and possibly work on another way to distribute tokens based on curation rather than tweet performance from the data we fetch.

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While this hasn't been something I've personally counted on happening, that a web2 platform starts not just asking for payment to request data but ridiculous sums, I'm glad that it's not something that would _kill_ POSH completely. I admit it would definitely put a hamstring on us but there's plenty of other ways and places to attempt drive traffic to Hive which we can focus on more instead. Twitter was for a long time seen as the one crypto-friendly place thus our focus was always it, but we can make other platforms work as well. We have recently introduced Reddit POSH but the activity there is rather low and we haven't started it up properly with incentives and contests to get things going.

#### Tokens and buyback

POSH has existed and been tradable for a long time. Even though we had a fair initial distribution to those who used POSH the way it was meant to and we never allocated a supply of the token to the team/founder or any other unfair advantage, we realize there may be people out there who've invested in the token with the hopes that it'll continue to grow through the Twitter platform.

If this API change won't be resolved we're going to allocate a bigger portion of our funds to continuously buy up tokens from the market for those wishing to exit at this time for these reasons. Friendly reminder would be not to sell everything in one go but mind the buy orders and give us some time due to the way power downs work on Hive. 

What we do with these tokens will remain fairly the same (distribute them to earners and delegators) although our focus is going to shift elsewhere in that case. More info on that once we cross that bridge.

If anything, the way we've distributed POSH fairly to people attempting and driving traffic towards our front-ends is quite unique a good start for something bigger. We've always had plans to build more things on top of the POSH ecosystem due to the way it works where there was no real demand for the token. On top of the token being hardcapped at 1 million supply and forcing us to go deflationairy soon. These plans have not changed and we'll continue to plan and work towards them.

https://twitter.com/oAcido/status/1634819209736888320

##### TL;DR

So in short, POSH is still only at the beginning of its journey for those who wish to stick around but for those who'd like to leave here, we respect that and will help you get out from the market. Hopefully Twitter will be reasonable to give us a manageable quote for our API requests but if not it's not the end of the world and we can still make due with Twitter POSH in more manual ways.

_On a personal note, I might sell a little POSH but not much and not cause of this API change, while I have bought most over time and sold some this year since I don't pay myself for the work I've put into the project, this isn't going to be something that's going to make me want to sell all of my POSH. I'm still quite excited over the future of the POSH ecosystem and some of our current plans and don't regret the amount of Hive I've put into it!_

Thanks for reading and using POSH all this time! Feel free to ask in the comments if there's something you're wondering about! 

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@caelum1infernum ·
Didn't know this project was this complicated always thought that we can link to Twitter without any cost 42k per month damn man that's a lot of money 
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@cmplxty ·
If it doesn’t work out on Twitter, it might be for the best. We are pretty well shadow banner there aren’t we?
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@decoding · (edited)
RE: Statement regarding Twitter API changes concerning POSH
Thanks for being honest enough to share your thoughts about POSH.
Thanks buddy.

This new policy on Twitter I believe won't work as it will limit users activity there and when there is no significant activity anymore, they will have to retreat.
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@garorant ·
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Hey! Any news on this matter? I would love to read a post of the current state of the curations with POSH
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@acidyo ·
We're still working on it, things are going a bit slow unfortunately but we have plans on boosting Reddit activity in the meantime and allocating more POSH tokens and curation that way. 
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@hiro-hive ·

It's great to see the POSH team proactively addressing potential Twitter API changes, I guess this is something to do with our talks and concerns last night. Exploring alternative ways, increasing community engagement, and maintaining transparent communication is crucial for adapting to these challenges. 

I am also concerned regarding our [Daily Twitter daily report](https://peakd.com/@hive-data/posts) as we rely on the Free Twitter API tier at the moment however I am optimistic about the future scenario. 

Stay agile and innovative, and continue focusing on providing value to users. Best of luck, and keep us updated on any developments!
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@idksamad78699 ·
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I hope this twitter API will work for posh without much hustle. I think, it's Good time to focus more on Reedit side of Posh if twitter is being this strict.

I would still share tweets even if it doesn't work. Guess, people will do same.



 

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@incublus ·
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I don't understand why Twitter keeps playing with APIs like it's child's play. I'm sure the $42k they're asking for this system won't change anything on their side, but it could change a lot on our side. I believe in Posh and I won't sell my tokens, it makes sense to do it manually. Yes it will be a bit more work but we can do the comments ourselves instead of poshtoken. I don't know how we can find a better way. 
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@acidyo ·
Yeah not sure what they're up to, a Hive dev told me that someone who runs a full node here often handles over 5m requests per day and it doesn't cost that much, but they want $100 for 10k and way more for more? it's kind of ridiculous
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@manuphotos · (edited)
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I am really hating Elon right now. In the worst-case scenario can you merge Posh and Gosh as one? With that, you can change Twitter to Thread. Just an idea.
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@acidyo ·
POSH's main goal was always to bring traffic from outside in, that's the main reason we decided to do another token for Threads and Dbuzz, etc as that "promotion" is directed towards people already here. We did a small GOSH airdrop since a lot of the tech was copied from POSH. 

Either way, I think those are best to leave separate and we can build/evolve them out separately over time with their own distributions.

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@jude9 ·
"POSH" running has brought a lot of traffic for many users outside to join twitter lately. I think of  POSH and GOSH should run parallel maybe merging them wouldn't help. Thanks.
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@melbourneswest ·
With only 3195 registered users, if we continue to grow it could put significant financial pressures on the project. I'm so sorry to hear this. Twitter is going down the gurgler real fast. 

I don't think Posh is alone in this though, I'm sure many businesses will be in the same boat. 
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@nonameslefttouse ·
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Ouch but that's life when doing business that depends on the business of others.  Could have a flourishing online market selling goods and suddenly the trucking company you use goes under, while the other trucking companies don't have enough resources to cover your needs.  *That's life.*

Voting for a post still pays though, if one has stake.  Vote, share, earn.  Same result at the end of the day.     
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@acidyo ·
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Yeah, authors and POSH curators will still be able to curate once everyone realizes POSH doesn't work the same way anymore and they now have to do the linking themselves. 

We're hive, we can adapt to anything. ^^
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@nonameslefttouse ·
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As a content creator (if I was actually creating content LOL), with my stake, if I see someone Tweet my post, while it's clear the outside is actually looking, I'd be an asshole if I didn't upvote their comment myself, giving them more rewards on top of curation if they voted.  

Adds up.  Even earning a penny is more than all the people sharing content online for two decades ever earned...

Oh well.  Hopefully things work out.
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RE: Statement regarding Twitter API changes concerning POSH
<center>PIZZA!
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<sub>You can now send $PIZZA tips in <a href="https://discord.gg/hivepizza">Discord</a> via tip.cc!</sub></center>
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<sub> The rewards earned on this comment will go directly to the people( @acidyo, @shiftrox ) sharing the post on Twitter as long as they are registered with @poshtoken. Sign up at https://hiveposh.com.</sub>
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@technicalside ·
Adapt and improvise. 😎 its no biggy, we've been through harder times 😂😉

No doubt it's still sad though. 
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@technicalside ·
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@therealflaws ·
> This means the comments of shares won't work anymore, @poshtoken won't be able to fetch data of POSH-eligible tweets to place the embedded links under the posts that are shared.

Maybe we can surf around the tag #hive on twitter and still curate/rewarding the posts that way? Dunno, but hey, I'm pretty sure there will be another way around if the worst scenario happens. 
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