Truth behind whales! by acustix1

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steemit · @acustix1 · Jul 27 '16 (edited)

Truth behind whales!

<h1>What a whale is and why this is bad.</h1>
<p><img src="https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/6414481_f520.jpg" /></p>
<p>you post good content. but because out of 36,800 users only 45 user actually have any real power to up-vote your content and therefore give you money. </p>
<p> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aVe0pz8_700b.jpg</p>
<h1><strong>What does this mean</strong></h1>
<p>even if all of the other 36000 members up-vote your post. the steemit network would think that only  7% of user were interest. </p>
<h1><strong>How to beat the system</strong></h1>
<p> <code>1 MV = 1M VESTS = 243.723 STEEM = $869.362</code> </p>
<p>If you wanted to become a superuser and grab a 2% influence it would literally cost you 869 dollars but to be a legend you would have to invest 869,000 dollars to the network so while you think you have a chance at fame and fortune the truth is unless one of the founders of the company up-votes your content. you will make very little money, and its simply not in there interest to do so. </p>
<h1><strong>It gets worse</strong></h1>
<p> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aVe0ywn_700b.jpg</p>
<p>on any given day there are only 5000 accounts active meaning that even if all users were to up-vote your post you would barely break 0.8% interest. but there are 24 hours in a day. meaning 5000/24=  only 208 users on average will ever see your post. that doesn't even break .001% interest.</p>
<h1><strong>so why do some make money?</strong></h1>
<p>my thoughts while unproven are. I think its a shell game. while users put Money into into network whales take it out.</p>
<p>don't believe me up-vote this post and bookmark it for later. you will that unless a whale upvotes no money is to be made.</p>
<p>this is a problem that eventually will cause the end of steem!!!</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p><br /></p>

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@acustix1 · Jul 27 '16

So we have a coment with 15 upvotes . And 1 downvote from a user called steemitservices . The post is greyed out because the whale down voted. I think were on to something here guys. Proof is in the downvotes made by whales

👍 thegeek, acustix1

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@berniesanders · Jul 27 '16 (edited)

$0.05

Maybe you should take the time and look at steemit.tips constant spam in their history.  Then you might understand why their posts are being downvoted rather than making ignorant comments like this one.

👍 msutyler, hitmeasap, metrox, rainchen, winstonwolfe, maximkichev, eneismijmich
👎 jillstein2016

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@kuriko · Jul 29 '16 (edited)

What exactly do you consider as spam? @berniesanders just making sure I don't go this way.

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@rainchen · Jul 27 '16 (edited)

True that , people getting annoying day by day many , bot keep on editing they comment every 5 minutes until we unable to see recent replies from others , there pro and cons for using bot and to attracts whales attentions , how i wish i can have filter bot to filter all craps out . hopefully steem will adding new button to delete useless comment .

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@dulcevel · Jul 27 '16

What are the odds that steemit services havnt made a post that has not made over 200 dollars

👍 acustix1, josephd

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@bison015 · Jul 27 '16 (edited)

Keep up the good work!

👍 acustix1, dulcevel, headlines, josephd
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@cryptodon · Jul 27 '16

Interesting stats, thanks for the info.

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@dulcevel · Jul 27 '16

Thanks for sharig

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@dulcevel · Jul 27 '16

That friend5 guy is a whale...

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@friend5 · Jul 27 '16

That friend5 guy has made large investments into this project in both time and money, and has taken  nothing out.

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@papa-pepper · Jul 28 '16

Sounds friendly enough to me.

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@friend5 · Jul 27 '16

$0.10

You don't take the trouble to use proper sentences, punctuation, grammar, capitalization, or research/fact checking. Yet you have the audacity to say: **&quot;you post good content.&quot;**

You have no idea of what good content is (from the viewpoint of those who put their sweat, tears and treasure into the development of this opportunity for you - not from the viewpoint of juvenile, entitled miscreants).

Your slovenly post and attitude add zero value to the platform - in fact they are probably deleterious in the eyes of the value contributors we hope to attract.

Hopefully you still have quite a bit of growing up to do and this is not a manifestation of your adult character. Heaven help you if it is.

👍 friend5, ydm6669, eddy-ess
👎 acustix1

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@acustix1 · Jul 27 '16

I am sorry for the inconvinience of my poor english. But it is a second language to me

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@friend5 · Jul 27 '16

English as a second language does not excuse your lack of research/fact checking.

And it certainly does not excuse making baseless accusations and the spreading of FUD.
&quot; while users put Money into into network whales take it out&quot;

There are content contributors who started with nothing and have never put any money into steemit - but have withdrawn hundreds, and in some cases, thousands of dollars.

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@friend5 · Jul 27 '16

This poster also has English as a second language. But she has **a positive attitude** and is making contributions to the community whereas you have a negative attitude and are sewing dissension in the community. Who do you think will be rewarded?
https://steemit.com/steemit/@chicana/steemit-re-open-for-new-users-released-almost-100-balloons-with-steemit-logo

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1 reply

@dulcevel · Jul 27 '16

Whale alert!!!!

👍 acustix1
👎 dulcevel

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@morningtundra · Dec 21 '17

Unlike the OP this comment is rude, nasty, personally insulting and unhelpful. OP took the time to write a carefully considered critique. That’s Proof of Work as described in the Whitepaper.

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@jillstein2016 · Jul 27 '16

https://steemit.com/steemit/@jillstein2016/steemit-will-be-bigger-than-facebook     

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/bloguploads/tupac-hologram-star-wars.gif  
 some wanna be whales are hating on me. show them the power of minnows #minnowpower

👎 cheetah00

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@jillstein2016 · Jul 27 '16

we need those 5000 people to either buy more steempower or invite another 100k people onto steemit. we can defeat the evil whales with the right numbers

👍 dulcevel
👎 cheetah26

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@pfunk · Jul 27 '16

Evil whales, yeah right. Stop shitting up the place with your spam and you won't get downvoted.

👍 metrox

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@jordanbradley · Jul 27 '16

Great insight!  I was thinking the same.

👍 dulcevel, anjoke

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@moh-rokib · Jul 29 '16

so, this is about whales? we need upvote from whales for make our post big rewards?

👍 moh-rokib, kamvreto

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@rednetwork · Jul 27 '16

Totaly agree with this

👍 dulcevel

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@robreardon6 · Jul 27 '16

Would be surprised if the whole enchilada is an ill conceived plot from day 1.  Faith in humanity would be null.

👍 dulcevel

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@steemit.tips · Jul 27 '16 (edited)

$0.81

They may not be taking money out of the system, the system probably creates it as needed.

However think of it this way. Whales get 20 great votes in a 24 hour period. Meaning they can vote 20 times and each user would get the max available for that particular whales vote.

This could be $200 per upvote, or even $2,000 per whale upvote.

Who are they most likely to upvote? You? or their friends who are signing up and making posts? Or even their own shell accounts?

Maybe they give 19 upvotes to friends, and 1 to the public. Who knows.

👍 pfunk, thegeek, acustix1, dulcevel, curls4life, alniskobs, amboyst, cheremet, anarchypory, angevel, backetri, countrytalented, cozyone123, crumaner, daysaiyan, daysmega, daysmega1421, dotersvilic, chonesta, steemit.tips
👎 steemservices

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@pfunk · Jul 27 '16 (edited)

Some whales are actively trying their best to find and upvote non-Steemit-circlejerk, quality original posts so that the site doesn't swim into a whirlpool of self-congratulation and instead fills its best and highest use, rewarding people for sharing awesome things. At least one large stakeholder has even hired multiple people to find worthy posts for them, and their vote currently carries about $350 in total rewards.

Most of the people with a large stake understand that the value of Steemit determines the value of their own stakes, and are trying to make Steemit the best it can be. 

In your case, some users do not believe having an automated message in every post is a great idea, as the noise is drowning out the signal in the comments. I applaud you for crafting a helpful message but I also somewhat agree that there are too many automated bot posts and they need to be discouraged. Downvoting and minimizing these comments is the tool available to discourage it.

👍 metrox, orwellnightmare, anjoke

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@steemit.tips · Jul 27 '16

15 votes and it doesnt matter. The whales control steemit, the upvotes are most likely going to friends and content is downvoted even if it was previously getting a lot of upvotes from users as being helpful.

Just have to wait for someone to take this idea, refine it and run with it.

👍 acustix1, steemit.tips
👎 steemservices

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