Visibility Problems Even on Other Social Media Platforms by adamada

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hive-196233 · @adamada · Feb 16 '22

$10.93

Visibility Problems Even on Other Social Media Platforms

If you think bots commenting on your posts were bad, try using other social media platforms with the hot hash tags. You don’t need a lot of experimentation to trigger some bots from responding on your posts.

For me #nft #nfts draws them into your tweets even if it has nothing to do with what you’re really sharing. These bot accounts just serve as automated noise to sell you something indirectly like “visibility” and promotions until the platform shuts their account down for mass reports.
Instagram has been my frequent app because of the low engagement required to be on trending for a few seconds before fading into oblivion. It’s also one of the best places to observe how harsh the algorithms are when it comes to treating user content.

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Have you ever heard of curation accounts on Instagram being setup just to repost works from known niches (arts, travel photos, anime and etc.) for views? These accounts post at regular intervals and can generate a lot of views + follows based from organic discovery and how the algorithm treats active accounts.

While I don’t have the exact formula when it comes to convincing the bots to place your content on trending, the chances of you stuff being noticed is raised when you post regularly, generate emoji reactions and comments, increase follower count, and duration of people engaged with your content (videos). These same factors also apply to other social media sites of course but not every factor is ranked equally and the algorithms change based on what your network on the platform.

Anyway, curation accounts usually get more chances to be on trending and snowball their way to the top because all they need to do is grab some content from others users and repost (with due credit or not). It doesn’t matter if they can’t generate more engagement on that content, they have the advantage of having a large pool of content to pick and post with. It’s not like the average user would really concern themselves of who really owns the content or do extra legwork tracing the artist unknown.

So what happens is random people dropping their likes and raising the visibility of these curation accounts until they’ve grown enough following to be in a position to negotiate visibility for other content creators. At this point, anything they post will generate attention for “promotion”, artists would now be able to negotiate paid promotions for these accounts. The same accounts that built their reputation from using other’s content.

Now it doesn’t really matter whether they credit the author’s work at this point. Even if there was a request to takedown the content, there are still plenty of works to fish from. The fact that it only takes them a few seconds to minutes to post new content is the advantage here. The real owners take about hours to weeks just to finish their piece so it’s natural that the real artist (who don’t have a decent following) get the short end of the stick in the race.

The problem with how these algorithms are setup is that it makes the gap in content discovery for new content creators versus established creators even wider. If you have an established following, almost anything you post will generate automated likes and this is a positive feedback loop for those old users on the platform. Sounds like it’s no different from what we got on Hive right?

Not really. We got better a relatively better content discovery here for those authors willing to go the extra mile to promote themselves. There’s also the OG advantage with autovotes but the gap isn’t that wide when you talk about raising your chances for curation. If I had to compare the platform’s curation practices versus what we had from the old blockchain, I’d say even new users who have the skills can get noticed and if they do put extra effort on engaging they’d get more consistent social rewards for their time.

There’s no bot that automatically segregates your content off the trending page just for 0 comments on it. In other platforms, content made from a non-established user would be lucky to be on trending to at least a few minutes because the content would be competing against many established authors already posting by the hour. Here you still have a chance for manual curators to sift through your post and even raise your visibility when it’s on a relevant community.

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A random comment section I passed when viewing what's on trending. I tend to scroll further down the timeline like I'm manually curating on Hive cause old habits. This is what a normal comment section on IG looks like for top content creators.

While I get the lack of comments can be seen as a turn off, it’s not so bad as having only a barrage of heart and smiley emojis on your post if the content doesn’t even stimulate a discussion. For platforms like twitter and Instagram, these aren’t ideal venues for discussion so dropping some emojis already counts as engagement. I mostly just drop likes on content I do fancy and maybe a few comments here and there. You know who else does that? Other average content consumers.

If you made it this far reading, thank you for your time.

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@cmplxty · Feb 17 '22

$0.15

I’m really glad that I don’t use any of these platforms any longer. I only truly used Fakebook for a while but have quit for 5 years now. Best decision for me for sure! Lol

It amuses me that people highlight the things on Fakebook and IG like “accounts created!!!11” as a way to measure their success. Accounts created aren’t shit, so many of those are bots that are getting made so it’s not that many humans using it, lots of bots instead.

👍 adamada

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@adamada · Feb 20 '22

> so many of those are bots that are getting made so it’s not that many humans using it, lots of bots instead.

When people make the argument that there is general lack of engagement on Hive, I don't really think that they consider majority of the activity here comes from a diverse authors of different languages who don't really bother with posts they don't understand, have a general consumer behavior where they consume content with minimal engagement unless investment, and overall just a small number of active users using the social media aspect of the blockchain.

Pooling those factors together makes it an understandable scenario why engagement levels are low and trying to whine about no one reacting to posts is a lost cause. It's nice and all but I don't really comment on youtube videos I like to watch or go out of my way to "connect" with the author on what they're up to beyond that. And I expect people to understandably be doing the same thing just cause that's how normal people usually go about their business online. Thanks for stopping by :>

Been a tough week so I couldn't get as active on Hive as much as I used too.

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@cwow2 · Feb 16 '22

$0.15

I gave you lots of free likes on Instagram!

👍 adamada

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@adamada · Feb 16 '22

$0.09

bruh, didn't know you were trying to be a self taught digital artist, that's great! ping me up when you share your stuff, there's an artbees discord for Hive users, more active on discord than Hive if you want in.

👍 cwow2

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@cwow2 · Feb 16 '22

Done :D

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@dandays · Feb 16 '22

$0.16

*This* is still my only one. When I read or hear about the other ones I'm reminded I'm not missing anything.

👍 adamada

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@adamada · Feb 16 '22

Unless you plan on going big and make a business online, these things will be something to mind but while that's not an option, yeah, you're doing great saving yourself the headache of minding these. And true enough, you aren't missing anything at all in other social media platforms :D

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@gangstalking · Feb 16 '22

Electronic-terrorism, voice to skull and neuro monitoring on Hive and Steem. You can ignore this, but your going to wish you didnt soon. This is happening whether you believe it or not. https://ecency.com/fyrstikken/@fairandbalanced/i-am-the-only-motherfucker-on-the-internet-pointing-to-a-direct-source-for-voice-to-skull-electronic-terrorism

👎 spaminator

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@hivebuzz · Feb 17 '22

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@khoola · Feb 17 '22

$0.16

I seriously dislike social media... which is ironic because I am here on Hive. I only have Twitter just to get pinged of the latest gossip on world news, particularly business (and stalking gravure models). My fb is just for family and friends... Instagram, I have one its empty.

Rappler, Business Mirror, and such pique my interest and DIYs (love DIYs 🤩)

Hmmm... forgetting something 🤔

Oh yeah, love the art! reminds of [Danganronpa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danganronpa) and I like Danganronpa 😍! (yeah, I know its tag is #rant,complain,talk — but I was drawn it because of the thumbnail)

<br></br>
***
Hey, thanks for using our tag #vyb #proofofbrain or #pob 

We upvoted you using our tribe tokens POB and VYB! In case you don't know... (truth be told I just read it somewhere 🤣)  By staking our tokens then delegating them to @pob-curator and @vyb-curator respectively, you can have 95% of the curation gained back to you in daily automated payments.
***
## <center> [VYB Curation Project (VCP)](https://vibrainium.com/vyb/@vyb.vyb/announcing-the-vyb-curation-project-vcp) </center>

<div class="pull-left"> <img src="https://images.ecency.com/DQmTNyt4BtPAEYhGSwbJtr24imo5RtLwee7JNKKgaJSA3GS/new.jpg"> </div>
<div class="pull-right"> <sub>"Every man's work, whether it be literature or music or pictures or architecture or anything else, is always a portrait of himself." - Samuel Butler </sub></div>

👍 adamada

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@adamada · Feb 20 '22

> which is ironic because I am here on Hive.

pera brings you closer.

Most social media content is noise and click bait anyway. There are gems. 
I do follow Twitter erotic cosplayers, JAV actresses and other ecchi content creators. Found out they are a good source of references.

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@khoola · Feb 21 '22

> pera brings you closer.

Undeniable, money is the root of all evil. Found Hive a good source of information and things "I need to know"... which is better than centralized unfiltered social media. Blogging here is fun in a way and gets rewarded.

Followed... model **Saku Ayaka** back then forgot to check back on her for quite some time now.

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@namiks · Feb 16 '22

$7.37

> Anyway, curation accounts usually get more chances to be on trending and snowball their way to the top because all they need to do is grab some content from others users and repost (with due credit or not).

Whether this particular piece of text pertains to Hive or other social media, it made me want to write a few lines specifically from the point of view of a community leader on Hive:

Pretty much every community is doing this now, and even I/we in the Movies & TV Shows community, but one thing I've been **VERY** aware of from the start is how we go about doing it. At first we chose a large number of authors in the community, but chose to decrease it down to 3. This has been a sweet spot for us since it results in a highlight that's not too long and causes people to just ignore it, but focuses more on the content, but most importantly: it allows us to actually allocate a fair share of the rewards the post makes to those authors.

I feel not enough communities do this. I haven't seen that many that actually consider sharing post rewards with those they're featuring. I don't like that it's the norm, and I hope that as we grow the community it starts to at least set a standard in how community leaders run those communities. Hive is about curation and engagement, to not share rewards is to completely ignore a massive part of what makes Hive so special.

Currently we share between 5% - 10% and I often feel that's still a low amount. Though an additional sum of the post earnings go to the moderators and those who take the time to read and find the content. This ultimately services as a financial incentive to those who run through the community and find content to not just curate for those highlights, but curate in general; alongside OCD incubation and outside of that.

It's a tricky area to address where moderators, in my opinion, definitely deserve an incentive for their efforts of running/maintaining a community given the significant time it takes to do so (and I want to stress that when I say moderators I absolutely do not refer to me as the leader but the moderators). But without the concept of a highlight being theft of content for profit.

In fact, this matter even dives into the idea of token creation here on Hive, where some tokens are clearly created just to benefit the creators at the expense of the users that some lie directly to about it benefitting them. Though that's a completely different topic to get into!

I think Hive is a very special place where we can address these issues of algorithms and content theft and promote the idea of actual community, where money isn't just made, but shared and distributed among the users, ultimately creating that value.

👍 ocdb, adamada, betterdev, hextech, giftgiver, nftmart, mafia.wallet, justinw, rishi556, olumzy, thecouncil

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@adamada · Feb 16 '22

$3.63

I had other social media in mind when I wrote that part. The ones that are really getting popular on IG are curation accounts because of the nature of taking up nice pictures and reposting them. While doing so does not necessarily give them any monetary value immediately, they can eventually bargain for the visibility ones they get enough following from the rinse and repeat process as people on IG have a short attention span and don't really second guess the business behind these curation accounts do. It's probably beneficial that these exist to highlight other unknown author's content and give credit when it is due but their reposts are competing for visibility against users that are trying to get it. 

> It's a tricky area to address where moderators, in my opinion, definitely deserve an incentive for their efforts of running/maintaining a community given the significant time it takes to do so (and I want to stress that when I say moderators I absolutely do not refer to me as the leader but the moderators). But without the concept of a highlight being theft of content for profit.

Agree. Totally.

As for the curation compilations we have on Hive, everything about the social rewards distribution issue has always been a subjective balancing act. If the curator tends to receive more rewards from the beneficiary posts greater than the post they have curated, that would make me say meh. Not like curators who made the compilation have any control on who is willing to reward them. 

!PIZZA

👍 ocdb, betterdev, justinw

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@pizzabot · Feb 16 '22 (edited)

RE: Visibility Problems Even on Other Social Media Platforms

<center>PIZZA! PIZZA! 
 @adamada! The Hive.Pizza team manually curated this post.

PIZZA Holders sent <strong>$PIZZA</strong> tips in this post's comments:
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