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So, when there's personal conflict there is exactly one place I turn to deal with it.  A woman by the name of Katie Byron put together 4 questions that you ask yourself in a series in order to flesh out what the fear is, how it effects you, and who you would be without it.  By answering those questions honestly and openly it seems to have the power (at least for me) to unlock the fears the grip me.

I've been working with various people in the Minnow Support Project to help them deal with their conflicts by teaching them about, and helping them apply those questions.  I have both postive and negative feedback on the approach, but overall there's nothing that I can recommend more.

There's generally two types of fears.  Those we put on others and those we put on ourselves.  When we're constantly lashing out at people, especially those that haven't really committed major offenses, it's usually that we're letting ourselves down and taking it out on the other.  Many people also bury themselves in negative self talk all day long.  With some of my friends that I'm working on this with they can't make it through a three sentence paragraph without sharing two giant fears and insecurities.

So, as part of this I was asked to do the same activity, I said I would and here's the first post.  I have two questions that came from others that to me having done this for a few years are pretty easy to cope with.  So, I'll start there.  Tomorrow or the next day I'll really bare all on some fuckers that still haunt me to show how someone that's kinda an expert at this deals with the monster insecurities that still exist.  For now though, let's do these two.

## What is The Work?"

There are two extremes that I witness a fair amount.  On the one hand you are brutal to yourself:  “I’m not loveable.”  “I’m worthless.” “I’m such a fucking asshole.” “ I can’t do anything right.” “I’m a monster.”  On the other hand you are brutal to someone else:  “You’re not loveable.” “You’re worthless.”  “You’re such a fucking asshole.”  “You can’t do anything right.”  “You’re a monster.”

These oscillate between guilt/shame and accusation.  Often times the worst of your fears are causing additional problems rather than helping you.  So, you have be able to hold a thought, examine it, but not believe everything you think.  That’s part of Wisdom.  Here’s a tool to help you do it.  It's called "The Work" and consists of asking isolating a fear you are experiencing and then asking yourself 4 questions about it.

>The Four Questions
1. Is it true? (Yes or no. If no, move to 3.)
2. Can you absolutely know that it’s true? (Yes or no.)
3. How do you react, what happens, when you believe that thought?
4. Who would you be without the thought?

Looking inward isn’t fun, but the relief that I expect many of you to experience from this will be the single most liberating experience of your life.  

Overall website:  www.thework.com
1 pager on this thing- thework.com/sites/thework/downloads/worksheets/instructions_for_thework.pdf
20 Pager on this thing- thework.com/sites/thework/downloads/Little%20Book.pdf



## Aggroed avoids central questions <h2>

The first question I was asked to write about is regarding me avoiding central questions.

1.  "I avoid central questions" 
> No I don't.  I delay them for input, but I don't avoid them.  I may avoid them when they are small, but I don't when stakes are large.
3. How do I react when I avoid central questions?  What happens when I avoid central Questions?
> I react in fear to avoid causing irrepairable harm.  Rather than immedately following my gut, I question myself and if I have enough information.  I seek more out.
4.  Who would I be without the fear that I avoid central questions?
> I would make faster decisions knowing that I'm good at leading and can trust my instincts more.  I may seek less input and spend be able to draw conclusions faster.

Turned around; I don't avoid central questions.  
> This feels truer to me.  I feel like I purposefully go slow, but that's hardly ignoring them.  I want to do a good job.  People count on me.

> I still feel freer here.  I'm in the drivers seat, and I can make conscientious decisions.



## If I make decisions that my dear friends don't like they will abandon me <h2>

So, the first fear wasn't mine.  So, it's hard to address someone else's fear.  Maybe the first one was a little awkward.  So, that's why I felt it was important to add another one in here that's my lil' fear baby.  So, let's try it now.

If I make decisions that my dear friends don't like they will abandon me.
1.  Is it true.  
> Maybe?  If my decisions are bad enough and I hurt a lot of people they might?

2.  Can I absolutely know that it's true?
> No, even if I make a horrible decision it's probably as likely or more that people will intervene to set my course straight rather than simply abandon me.

3.  How do I react when I think people will abandon me for making bad decisions?  What happens when I think they will abandon me?

> Well, first I get scared.   I don't want the friends that I've worked hard to collect and care for to suddenly disappear.  It's happened before in my life and it was painful.  So, I resist the urge to do something or anything immediately.

4.  Who would I be without the thought that people will abandon me for making bad decisions?

> My answers to this tend to come back to liberty.  I'll be free of a constraint that holds my answers in my gut and on my tounge.  I'll still want to deliberate and check in with others, but I could trust my instincts more.

3a. Reworked- If I make a bad decision I'm afraid I'll abandon my friends.
How do I feel when I think this?  How do I react?
> I'm filled with some shame.  I've failed plenty of times in my life.  I've had lots of success too, but there are times that the strees or pressure has gotten too high and I've had to bail out especially to the detriment of others.  Sometimes I'll turn to drugs, alcohol, or video games, other times I'll just keep putting it out of mind and off for more time.

Who would I be if I weren't gripped by this thought.
> I create powerful friendships.  The people that know me well know I love them and will stand by them.  I don't have to be afraid that I'll bail because they matter so much to me.  I think I could face the challenges more easily and not be gripped by uncertainty.

3b.  I won't abandon my friends if I make a bad decision
How do I react when I read this?  How happens to me when I have this thought?

> I feel empowered.  I feel it in my heart that you don't leave people behind that are struggling as long as they are trying.  It makes me feel more committeed to helping my buddies because I know I won't fail them.

4b.  Who would I be if I felt this way?
> I'd be a better leader.  I'd trust myself to always keep the watch and make sure I stick by their side.
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@angusg ·
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I'd rather read Ralph Waldo Emerson's essay "Self Reliance".  It always served me well.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16643/16643-h/16643-h.htm
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@arx27 ·
I agree your issues. Good post!
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@ayman101 ·
i dont afraid from
I am afraid from god's
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@denmarkguy ·
Interesting to see this here @aggroed... in a sense, nice to see something like Byron Katie's approach here on Steemit, among all the developers, logicians and rationalists.

I did some years (more than a few) on the self-development retreat circuit, learning from this guru and that... came across Katie's work and some of her disciples along the way. I'm sure you'll get your share of guru-haters (aka Michael Shermer skeptic disciples) who'll want to shoot all this down, but not so fast!

Like all approaches, there's good and bad here. She does offer some good basic tools for conflict resolution... in essence, a more "accessible" version of Non-Violent Communication with a sprinkling of non-duality tossed in. 

From my experience, the "danger" critics bring up have mostly to do with the price of her seminars, her "school" and (as always!) the way some people go overboard on this stuff and STOP thinking for themselves. Which leads to losing your grip on reality and then people start throwing the "cult" word around.

Anyway... within reason... these are some handy tools for introspection, and for establishing healthy priorities in your life. It's basically "Don't sweat the little stuff," only better. And that's a great thing.
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@hygge ·
I enjoyed reading the article.I look forward to seeing you.I envy you for writing a wonderful article.
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@intuitivejakob · (edited)
Hey, nice application of the work. 

I was introduced to Byron Katie's work when I moved to Boulder, CO and began practicing qi gong. 

The author's <i>first</i> name is Byron, by the way.
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@rizasukma ·
A very interesting post to read. thanks for sharing @aggroed
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@rogvalentin ·
A couple of things worth bearing in mind--the things you say to yourself are not usually "I'm such a XYZ" but "**You''re** such a XYZ", because you're actually replaying/paraphrasing things actual people -- authority figures during your childhood -- said to you. 

If you pay attention next time you scold yourself, you can probably tell from the intonation who that person was, then recall the exact situation, and answer your question in point #1 -- "Is this true?" Chances are the original (childhood) situation and your present one have nothing in common.

Second set of questions to ask: "Is my outburst helpful? Will it fix the situation? Is it kind? Is it a wild overreaction?"

 Anger is a result of fear. But you know what else is? Laughter. I've learned to substitute self-anger with self-laughter, and the results are stellar. 

Try it. 

Because when you make an error, there's always humor in it. The resulting change in your body's biochemistry will be beneficial instead of harmful.
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@rusinho027 ·
very good reflection, is an impossible situation, you never know what decision to take and it may be that the only possible options are wrong, I tell you a situation almost the same as I happened to me in 2013, my little brother had a rare cancer, (DRST) had 3 very important surgeries, the first one removed a tumor of almost 2 kilos that had in the abdomen, in the second surgery was worse, because the cancer had wrapped the colon , it was a surgery of approximately 6 hours, where in the middle of the surgery I had stayed with some friends in the waiting room while my family went out to take a breath for the nerves, at that moment where there were no families except me the surgeon and he tells me that they have to take the anus and put a year in the pansa because the tumor took everything, the doctor asks me if he does or not, because if he did not, the rectum would not allow him to evacuate in a few weeks and he would have to It was one of the ugliest situations I had to live in, luckily at the minute we could talk to my family and decide together, but when I was asked to decide I was too, but none of the 2 options was correct but even so we had to choose one, my brother woke up from the operation and he learned that his life had changed again since he had been doing it since he had this disease, 4 months later he died, today I still wonder if we did the right thing and I'm sure not, I hope you understand, thanks for sharing
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@sammosk · (edited)
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> "I want to do a good job. People count on me."

Agreed, which is one of my issues/drives/fears and in reaction or preparation for this I end up with a compulsion to have on hand all the data and conclusions prepared before the error happens and so I can instantly react to any situation or scenario in the most optimal fashion as soon as possible. However situations change from moment to moment, we are all human and we are all very changable, so gathering and collating and maintaining this procedures manual for reality and all choices is very draining.


Remember those little wheels/weights that would spin on an old engine, initially they start quite close together, then as the device spins faster they expand providing a greater restriction and flywheel effect as they expand.

I had to implement one of these in my life recently. I'm back into listening to music, eating properly again, feeling better than I have in a long time.

TLDR, enjoying my day off. <3

Thanks for deep diving for us and s haring, much love. <3 N+1 mofo.
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Introspection can be a scary thing but it can also be a very powerful tool. Next time I am feeling fearful I will try this out.
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@sircork · (edited)
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***Point? Ok, Counterpoints from psychology blogs, religious blogs, anti-cult blogs, self help blogs, critic's blogs...***

***This woman is at least a con, and at most DANGEROUS to some individuals.***

Why You Should Steer Clear of Byron Katie’s “Work”
http://www.womenofgrace.com/blog/?p=10391

The Work of Byron Katie Could Accidentally Cause Problems In Psychologically Vulnerable People
http://www.new-synapse.com/aps/wordpress/?p=296

Byron Katie Is Either Going To Enlighten You Or Kill You Trying
http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2008/02/byron-katie-is-either-going-to.html

Byron Katie (the Work) and Eckhart Tolle Legit??
https://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,12906

http://mortentolboll.weebly.com/a-critique-of-byron-katie-and-her-therapeutic-technique-the-work.html

Byron Katie – Snake Oil Business?
http://www.reenagagneja.com/byron-katie-snake-oil-business/

Personal Reflections on the Harm Caused by Byron Katie, David Hawkins, and Others to Vulnerable People - Part II
http://mollystrongheart.blogspot.com/2015/02/personal-reflections-on-harm-caused-by.html

The work (Byron Katie) makes me so mad!
https://forums.psychcentral.com/psychotherapy/327711-work-byron-katie-makes-me-so-mad-3.html#post3637348

***There are plenty more to go find, an exercise left to the thinkers who stumble into this mess***

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@denmarkguy ·
There are many, many more to find @sircork! Just like there are many, many adherents, as well. 

On things like this, I always find it helpful to research both the critics and the supporters to assess what their interest and agendas are. 

Gurus are notoriously controversial-- able to stir strong feelings in people. It's part of what we humans DO... peaceniks declare there to be something "wrong" with those who have anger issues... and similarly, those who respond with anger to everything declare that peaceniks are "avoiding reality." 

As a backdrop for learning basic self-inquiry and backing away from a life lived purely in reactivity, Byron Katie's "Work" offers some useful tools for introspection. Which is awesome... on the other hand, if you go overboard and start treating these lessons like they are the Universal Answer to Everything... then you're giving away your own freedom of thought, and it can become cultish. 

Point? There's no absolute truth here...  pro OR con.

I don't think Byron Katie has ill intent. I met her once-- she doesn't have that kind of vibe. She just wants to sell expensive retreats. Does it help people? Undecided... but probably MORE than simply "doing nothing."
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@sircork ·
Appreciate the feedback. Thank you.
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