0% of rewards from the pool go to people that don't get them voted to them.
When curators vote to dumpers no elaborate schemes are needed, just stop voting rewards to those that dump them.

Everybody wants change, but nobody wants to change.
20 accounts control 50% of the rewards.
Day after day, for all these years.
If too much is being dumped, I blame them.

I agree to the tier system. If I am to make changes. I would lower down the number of weeks needed to be locked as powering down already takes a long time. I would however add couple of  criteria(s) into the mix like there should be minimum number of posts and must have curated/ upvoted x amount. These additional criterias could also have its own tiers.

The lock content is an idea but one I feel wont do anything. Instead it just adds yet another layer of complexity and understanding to hive. Not sure how to bring Hive real value besides offering a higher APR on it but more over giving people a reason to hold it. One would think giving more towards curation over author or the other way around would be a good idea but that's been proven bad idea before so the 50/50 current setup makes the most sense so no adjustment there.

The real question is what do we have to do or build to make hive valuable. Why would you want hive and to hold on to it. Well the biggest things at first would be decent APR which is very low right now but you also want people voting on valued content. Issue there is 95% of people don't really care to read posts and truly vote up valued content. They simply just vote on what's under 24 hours and has a decent payout so far because they will earn more curation rewards for doing so with very little effort.

Until Hive can answer why someone would want to hold on to and own some hive it's going to have major issues with growth and holding value. Hive is currently looked at as a social platform to post threads and articles and get paid for doing so. Thus a cashing out mindset. Either that mindset needs to be adjusted or you need to build applications that bring value as to why you would want to own and hold more hive.

So perhaps with what you said above with the locking. An idea of locking of 100% means you get total payout but it all gets locked up into powered up hive after 7 days.

or

80/20 split if you choose to now power all of it up after a weeks payout on the article. That means 80% gets paid out to you in a 40/40 split 40% powered up and 40% liquid like we see now and 20% gets burned. Thus incentivizing people to want to fully power up their article rewards and being rewarded a little extra for doing so since they are committing to a 13 week unlocking period of which a partial of it could be unlocked through power down per week. 

For search terms
Stablecoin APR ( Is 10 searches per month)
and best stablecoin APR is roughly the same if not a little less. 
There's no real traffic there people really are not searching this stuff.

Just one game or the one service in SAAS where Hive is accepted, the whole game will change. We need to become a chain that has a lot of games served. Polygon has slowly captured market of games like this. All financial transaction are on chain. Rest game is stored on AWS orso, no chain interaction. As usual games on chain would change the game.

>we could lower the reward pool allocation and use that to reward Hive Power holders.

That's a terrible terrible idea.  Just awful. None of the logic lines up.  For starters, Why are we paying users to write content?  We pay them because the game theory says the content has value.  Would a corporation pay you to work for them... give you stock options, and then admonish you for dumping the stock?  No of course not that's ridiculous and would never ever be deemed acceptable. 

Hive does not need more timelocks either.  We're doing just fine.  Pitching ideas to completely change the way inflation works during a bear market is never going to work.  We can not stop the market cycle, and if we try to tinker with things to make number go up during the bear market it's going to fuck everything up and make it so much worse. 

There are many ways to build value on a network like this.  We need to stop trying to refactor the emissions thinking we can make the internal mechanics more efficient and only focus on bringing in value from the outside without changing core code. 

The system you propose allows people like me to completely exploit it.   I would just lock up the money for the maximum amount of time and get the maximum yield, and simply sell other tokens that aren't locked at the time.  It rewards users that simply have more money, not ones that have a longer-term vision.  It's a temporary solution because after a year is up and the money starts unlocking we are right back at the same problem we had before. 

In any case I hate to casually shit on your ideas like this...
Let's destroy the ninjamine bruv. 
There's one hardfork I'll get behind. 

If you look at some of the analyses by @demotruk , I believe that powering down may not have as big of an impact as some believe.

Agreed and agreed. Many times i have spoke about the SEO and how we should be using it for getting the content created from every user out there. It's even more important for the thing of the blockchain. 

Although I don't like the idea of lowering the 20%, I do see the appeal. I do like the idea of lowering the rewards pool, and shifting it to hive power holders!

I'm also a big fan of game theory in crypto.

But I think that in general, approaches which aim to restrict the supply of a coin (such as lock-up periods for coins or incentives to power up) are only useful in the short term. They are good for bootstrapping a coin at inception but once a coin has reached some level of maturity they just result in volatility. Any rise in the price of the coin will (fairly swiftly) be met with power-downs and an increased supply of the coin. The dam breaks and the price falls again. 

Mature coins should instead focus on increasing demand for the coin. For Hive I think that means more uses for the coin and increasing the size of the community (easy huh!). 

If you were to ask Hive hodlers what they currently do with their coins, most of them are probably going to say that they use it to take part in the content creation economy, either as curator or creator. Some will say that they just hold the coins as an investment in Hive for the future and don't really do anything with them. And this works. It's always important to remember that Hive has been successful where so many web3 social media efforts have already been and gone.

But if you are just a casual social media user who posts or comments infrequently and does not actively curate (as I think most people are) is there any active reason to own Hive (aside from the minimum level necessary)? There needs to be more. And that's an article in itself.

tl;dr: 
Increase the reasons to buy Hive rather than restricting the right to sell Hive.

Could signal long term and collect, later.  No problem!  Patience is easy.  Does not prevent me from dumping what I have.  Same for everyone else, *except new people.*  They get burned and have to go through the entire process of waiting to actually earn their full potential from their hard work.  Their other option is to get burned by choosing to take a hit.

Also, one could signal long term and post every day for 50 weeks.  First day of week 51 they dump (Waited forever, it's a given).  They also post that day and signal long term.  Now they're posting daily, and getting paid daily.  Always signaling long term, which now means nothing.

Did I miss something while I was away for summer?  Did something break?

Great article by Erick, our Leo genius

I won't say much because I don't have that much technical and financial knowledge yet, despite having learned a lot since I joined Hive, but I found your comment very interesting:

>My first question would be, "Are we really that incapable to SEO the hell out of a few articles so that HBD comes up at the top of both search results?".

>This 20% APR is a huge tool that we could leverage to onboard investors into the Hive ecosystem, and yet we are currently not doing anything about this

Indeed, it would be very good to use that 20% APR to attract the attention of new people and investors, considering that in the survey you carried out, the maximum was 14.5% APR, so we have a good opportunity on our hands to provoke a out of curiosity for anyone looking at that 20% APR value.

It would be a great initiative to present on an onboard I believe.

It is better when the curator in Hive receives 20% per annum (that is, the 50/50 system should change to 100/0). And for the authors it is necessary to introduce a system of donations.

What about set a 20% HBD Savings for amounts lowers than 10k (HBD) or increase the HP APR for accounts with less than 10k HP. More stack lower APR.

That way you make sure small users are the beneficiaries equilibrating the map of power and getting there chances to grow and bet for the network.