https://steemitimages.com/DQmUgi7SK9ebZsr3ncJrc6NEnUyWcH54nxPqGCTmkpbr9b7/c882b98a-8887-4d86-8690-4563d32241fe_xl.jpg <hr> <h3>Is Consciousness AI?</h3> There is not a big difference between the kind of intelligence an AI may possess and human intelligence. "Artificial" denotes the origin of the intelligence, not its properties. Since there's every reason to believe that human intelligence happened more or less naturally, rather than being meticulously designed by human-like agents, there doesn't seem to be any sense in which our intelligence may possibly be "artificial". If it's not natural, what is? <h3>Likening It To Th Computational World</h3> I may well be conflating (computational) intelligence with consciousness, that's nevertheless to be highlighted and drawn. So far, there is nothing to suggest that these two are aspects of the same development, and one should additionally take into consideration the preconscious and unconscious factors relevant to human experience. Consciousness is not a matter of top-down software programming as if the brain were a hierarchical management station. Instead, we may imagine the creation of AI through microfabrication of neural networks, which allows for the bottom-up passage of code and knowledge. <h3>A Different Outlook</h3> Leading AI researchers have tried and failed multiple times by reissuing the symbolic-descriptive, top-down approach that programmers use for software. That approach is as misguided to AI analysis as a result of the fact that it's for unmanned drones or different such hardware, thus the growing focus on light-based neural networks. That could be understood as saying we all understand what the advanced computational functions of the human brain are but we don't know how to code them. However, I feel it's even worse than that - we don't know what computational functions cause consciousness. They may not even be 'complex' - no one knows. <h3>Will We Be Able To Create/Control Others?</h3> As someone with a dominant leading towards non-dualistic materialism, I realise it annoying (and even maybe worrying) that consciousness is therefore resistant to reductionism. If you are able to build an aware object (i.e. a brain) in a womb, why can't you create one in a factory? If there isn't any reason why not then why is it we will not even see how to begin? http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-sometimes-it-is-the-people-no-one-imagines-anything-of-who-do-the-things-that-no-one-alan-turing-87-51-55.jpg
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Our mind is not in our brain. This well known to eastern mystics. The scientists of today think that they can just build a computer as complex as the brain, and viola, artificial intelligence. However, i would liken that to a kid playing with legos and talking about building a space craft. Everything that these modern scientists believe about the basis of intelligence and how reality is formed is wrong. And thus, if the create artificial intelligence, it will be by accident.
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Despite the fact that a scientist would not be able to silulaute the human brain in the form of Artificial Intelligence, aren't we getting to a point where these AI will have significantly more computational power that they will start to outthink our actions using big data and forming probabilities around them. Maybe this terminator like being should be reserved for the 22nd or 23rd century but it will come one day nonetheless and as of currently you have concerns of countries engaging in an AI arms race regarding the use of AI warfare. All we have to our advantage is that computers are completely rational with strict defined parameters. We need to understand ourselves more to have a greater grip. All in all I agree we the notion that the mind is not just the brain.
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Not really. But, you would have to experience the "more of the world" around you to understand. Machines can compute probabilities. Its all a mathematical construct. But a machine cannot compute possibilities. It doesn't even know what a door is. And a baby soon figures out what a door is. The world we are in communicates to us about its state. In that state is a bunch of definition that we take for granted. Did you know that self driving cars just omit bikes? They cannot process the interaction with bikes and their movements, so they just ignore them unless they are in front and they are going to run into them. Did you know that a self driving car cannot accurately identify a bum? And the program will fail if the bum,computed to be some trash, suddenly starts moving? Sure we can tell a computer that the thing it is looking at is a door. But, we have yet to tell a computer anything about door-ness. Machines cannot computer possibilities. It has no understanding of the future, or changing ones state in a meta way.
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>Our mind is not in our brain. >This well known to eastern mystics. No you cannot know whether mind is not our brain and eastern mystics didn’t most probably uncover the truth neither... It is very likely that sooner or later computer even more complex than the brain could be build...maybe it even is possible now we just don’t know how to pull it off...and maybe we never will be able to do so your metaphor might be correct. > Everything that these modern scientists believe about the basis of intelligence and how reality is formed is wrong. By this sentence you proved to be really ignorant. You also have tendency to think that you have uncovered the truth. That’s a bias...think about it...You haven’t uncovered anything...just throwing subjective biased opinions without pinpointing what you even speak about (if you say that everything is wrong than there is no room for discussion anyway…it seems like it is pointless to even try but I decided to try to show you your bias…the rest is up to you). You also didnt share any evidence, source or logical process behind your statements... World is not black and white...
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> No you cannot know whether mind is not our brain and eastern mystics didn’t most probably uncover the truth neither... You can know. It is just not something provable. It is like the invisible dragon in the garage. If you can see it, there is no "scientist" that can ever get you doubt its existence. And here you sit, doubting that it is real. But, you can learn to see the dragon. If you work on your perception and quieting your mind, at some point you will see the dragon. And then, it will not matter how much disproof was heaped upon you, or how much verified factual evidence that there is no dragon, matters. You now see it, and know its real. You want me to prove something in 3D linear reality. And, as you state, i cannot. However, there have been many before you, including myself, that used to have the small tiny belief of a 3D linear world, and then through training of the mind, body and soul, have opened ourselves to experiencing much more. And, from this point of having more awareness, i state, as i would state, that is a tree (Points at a tree), that the mind is not in the brain.
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You have been upvoted by the @sndbox-alpha! Our curation team is currently formed by @anomadsoul, @GuyFawkes4-20, @martibis and @fingersik. We are seeking posts of the highest quality and we deem your endeavour as one of them. If you want to get to know more, feel free to check our blog. This is a courtesy of @fingersik
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Thank you so much @sndbox-alpha (@fingersik more specifically) . It's currently midnight so I can barely form a sentence but nonetheless thank you for your support. It truly means a lot and it helps me retain my zeal of posting everyday! :)
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