RE: Don't hate the player, hate the game by ats-david

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steemit · @ats-david · Aug 11 '16

Absolutely right. Those with loads of Steem Power are turning this place into a joke. I really don't see how it's much different than reddit and Facebook, other than the slight possibility of making small amounts of money without "whales" arbitrarily supporting you. 

I've been here four days and I can't guarantee that I'll be here for four more. It's extremely disappointing.

👍 hensley

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@canambullion · Aug 11 '16

What makes it disappointing?

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@hensley · Aug 11 '16

The "clusterfuckery" of course!

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@jaimejean · Aug 11 '16 (edited)

That this platform is touted as being fully decentralized, censor-free and free-market about value yet, in practice, its' set-up and algorithm are an elaborate game of Calvin Ball in social engineering that achieves the opposite of what was advertised.

👍 hilarski, the-ntf, ats-david

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@mastercore · Aug 11 '16

@jaimejean Are you sure you have your arguments on the right way around?
sure the incentives may be skewing things at the moment but this is a "beta" platform. Trying to guess the exact, finely tuned set of incentives to provide a platform that lives up to everyone´s expectations is futile, but I tip my hat to the makers of Steemit for trying. And I think through iterative adjustments, this platform has a bright future.

The second part about fully decentralized, censor-free: read the white paper and judge for yourself. It is a huge leap in this direction when compared to facebook and reddit.

Again the world changes only step by step. Be patient and supportive where you see a positive direction of cultural evolution taking place.

And please don´t be *lazy!* Base criticism on facts and keep it constructive.

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