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Retirement and Financial Freedom
# Is $1M Enough in the US?

This is not an easy topic for most people to discuss, however by not discussing the situation will not improve for most. I was reading an article this weekend which is a bit light on reality, although it does show some nice infographic and let us think about the retirement problem in the United States. With the rising cost of healthcare and aging population, the United States is at the cross roads for millions of Americans who are ready for retirement now or soon will be. The question in most people's find, how much is enough. There is no real answer to this question. It is highly variable on individual life style, location, health and expectation during retirement. Also it is easier to speculate for someone who is going into retirement now vs. for someone who will be retiring say 10-15 years into the future. Variables and uncertainity increases exponentially with time.


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The above infographics is mostly applicable to the large cities in the United States. They also factor in the social security, which currently is about $1400/month on average as per Bankrate. That is $16800/year. If one retires at 65, and live to 80 years (rounding off), that is 15 years of living in retirement (currently, and average). As per my simple math; $1M + 252K (SS) = 1,252,000. Divide that by 15, and I get $83,466. 


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> According to Genworth Financial, the average cost of assisted living in 2020 was $4,300 per month. Similarly, according to a National Center for Assisted Living report, the median cost for assisted living in the United States is about $4,300 per month or $51,600 annually

I can also see that $52K can pay for a reasonable assisted living. Leaving $31K for miscellaneous. Hopefully medical costs are covered mostly, and therefore the math probably works out in general. Obviously individual situations are highly variable and uncertainity increases with age and expensive cities life NYC or SFO. However, in general we can say the as of now $1M in retirement (used as cash and no investment) will probably get you through. The longer you can stay out of assisted living, the cheaper it is. 

Incidentally a lot of it is Housing. So if you own your house outright and can stay there as long as you can, that improve the equation in the favor of the retiree significantly. Obviously cheaper cities in the midwest is better than more expensive cities along the coastline. But if you can afford it, then why not? As personally I'd love to live in SFO, as opposed to Memphis, TN!

# Financial Freedom

Most commonly Financial freedom means having enough savings, financial investments, and cash on hand to afford the kind of life we desire for ourselves and our families. Notice that the defition is vague and it is very difficult to put a $ value to this. I have a friend who lives in Northern India and Nepal and can basically live off the land with very little cash. He is single, stopped working in his 40s and unlikely to work again. His assets are less than $100K, but he is financially free. At the same time I have seen multiple individuals with networth north of $1M and yet they are not financially free.

In my mind, it boils down to income or rather income replacement, as opposed to net worth. Because this is more tangible calculation. The math is conceptually simple. First you have to define how much income you need to live comfortably whereever you are or like to be. Whatever that monthly income may be, you have to determine what kind of asset will generate that much income consistently over the period that you will live. Once you have accumulated that asset and distributed into investment generating that income, you have acheived financial freedom.

It could be any of the following items:
1. A portfolio of stock and bonds generating dividend income
2. A portfolio of rental properties generating income
3. A portfolio of crypto defi investment (wink, wink)
4. A portfolio of NFT gaming investment generating income (wink, wink)

Right now the bottom two is outperforming everything else. I have no idea what will happen in future but whatever it is I think it will work out for people who have invested in the current Hive L1-L2 economies.








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@behiver ·
You hit all the boxes with a portfolio from stocks, crypto, NFTs and real estate. These are the investments that can ensure a financial future if played right.

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@azircon ·
I hope so. At least that is what I am planning to do.
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@bozz ·
I think it is interesting that apparently most people assume you would live off the 1 million dollars.  If it were me, I would rather live off the interest of 1 million dollars.  I guess like you said, a lot of it has to do with where you choose to retire.  Where I live, even if I got something modest like 7% interest on my return, I would still be making more than I make annually right now.  Why not just let that money ride and keep investing a bit, then when you need to go into housing you still have at least a million dollars left.

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@azircon ·
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Yes, it is the passive income and the location that matters.
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@cwow2 ·
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It 100% depends on how you live, yes! $1 mil could be enough I think, but to be fair I don't live in the US, so I really don't know about the living costs x)
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@azircon ·
Even within US it depends on where you live, and it is highly variable.
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@cwow2 ·
True. The US is confusing when it comes to state taxes and all of the different state rules xD
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@joshman ·
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1 mil of cash flow generating assets would be an average job in the US.  In real terms over time it's a different story.  If you aren't growing the tree at the same time you are pulling fruit from it, you will be screwed.
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@scholaris.pob · (edited)
I've lived along the eastern and southern parts of the US while I worked in the power generation industry/military.  I'm currently in California until the power station I'm at goes into decommissioning.  

The US southern states like South Carolina, Tennessee, Mississippi, Florida have a somewhat realistic cost of living (COL).  Even in these areas, COL varies, but people here will just have to check and balance other statistics (i.e., crime, housing, schools, etc.).  Mississippi and Georgia, I felt had the lowest COL.  You can get by with a little.

Before this article, I narrowed down my next move/retirement to Tennessee or Florida.  I really liked living in Tennessee and Florida.  No state tax was alluring.  I never considered to actually check other countries.  I'll change that search now.  

California is a rip off.  Taxes are ridiculous.  I grew up in New Jersey (NJ), USA.  Their taxes are just as bad and their current governor was quoted saying "If you don't like taxes in NJ, maybe this isn't the place for you".



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@cwow2 ·
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See. Thats what I mean, they taxes depending on the state and so does the law (unless its federal low, right?).
That is insane confusing when you are from Europe xD
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@dlmmqb ·
**His assets are less than $100K, but he is financially free. At the same time I have seen multiple individuals with networth north of $1M and yet they are not financially free.
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I think truely based on individual life style. To some living in one room apartment is financial freedom and to some flying everywhere in private Jets is still not financial freedom. Minimalist people achieve financial freedom much faster than others. To sum up every thing, it's just our personal understanding of needs and wants.
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@foxkoit ·
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First thing if you want be free .... get out from USA . 
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@azircon ·
Well do you prefer Timbuktu rather? :)
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@scholaris ·
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Ha!  Actually, my wife keeps dropping hints that she wants us to leave this country.  If I could find a job that would pay for my relocation I might jus do it.  
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@azircon ·
Yeah, jokes aside, I probably won't be retiring in the US either.
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@foxkoit ·
Good :) 
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@joshman ·
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Cash flow is king!  I listened to George Gammon say (On Pomp) today that real property used to be the asset, and loans the liability, but this has flipped.  I used to hate debt, but he is right.  Assuming you have adequate cash flow, real property should have the maximum leverage applied because the government deleverages you while they deleverage themselves.
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@azircon ·
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Good debt is good.

Bad debt is bad.

Income is critical. Any asset that you hold should generate some income otherwise it’s speculative. 

Simple people have built substantial wealth from very basic investments that generated passive income.
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@livinguktaiwan ·
$1.03
Regardless of where I end up living, and whether it's 100k or 1m, ideally I think most people would like to retire before they're 65, and realistically a lot of people will be living beyond 80 nowadays
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@azircon ·
$0.23
True and True.

So we need more passive income right? That’s all there is to it. Many people here says, 10 rentals is all that you need. Others a a good farm is all that you need. I don’t have the right answer but I am not worried about it.

And yes, I won’t be working till 65 :)
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@sand126 ·
I don't think 1 million could be enough in US .If we calculate the inflation rate and increasing the price then 1 million look nothing . 
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@azircon ·
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"Enough" is a strong word.

Read and understand, otherwise your comments are becoming juvenile :)
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@sand126 ·
>Is $1M Enough in the US?



Thanks 🙂 I read your post and understood 1 M is not helping me becoming financial free unless put those in the investment like NFT gaming or Defi . Presently hive is providing those opportunity in the form of splinterland and leo finance platform.
Buying properties and put on rent also open another way to earn passively . I personally don't reccomend investing in stocks or bond since crypto investment is outperforming. 
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@sinistry ·
$0.86
I turned 47 in July and ~~retired~~ quit my job in August (THANK YOU SPLINTERLANDS AND HIVE!!). 

If not for the SPS airdrop I still wouldn’t be making enough trading or in daily earnings to do this, but my part of it is more than sufficient to cover my costs of living.

If I don’t completely fuck it up, the remainder of the airdrop, along with other investments, will keep me in a position to continue growing my position such that I believe it’s conservative to estimate my total holdings will reach $1 million by New Year’s Day 2024.

At that point I believe I’ll have enough staked and earning you continue to put half or more of my daily earnings back to work, while living comfortably, maybe even a little luxuriously, on the rest of it. 

So to answer the question posited in this post… I do not think a million dollars is enough to retire on if it’s a chunk of cash in the bank. I do think a million $$ in any reputable crypto project(s) is more than enough to retire and continue to grow one’s position.

I’ll let you know in a year or so. 😁
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@azircon ·
Yes and NO.

You are 47...keyword 47 :)

This is meant to be $1M for someone who is 65 :)

You have a long way to go buddy, but I am right there with you. You will get there.
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@sinistry ·
I’m sure we will, without a doubt. Dude, we all have both hands shoulder deep in the golden goose’s ass. We’re solid. 😁

But in response to your point I didn’t think about in terms from 65 so I’ll have to reconsider before speaking further in it. 
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@urun ·
>A portfolio of rental properties generating income

one of the best ways for retirement. Can be stressful too but is nothing fast and can be enjoyable :)
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@azircon ·
$0.29
Yes, that’s conventional. Hiring a good property manager will be recommended.
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@urun ·
the negative is, the public starts to hate landlords, and not in the classic way.

And Gov rug pull is not impossible on a larger timescale :P
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@whatsup ·
$0.61
Not even close to enough, depending on your age and life-style.  Being a millionaire is a left over hash from days gone by where it actually meant something special.  

At this point, in many areas in the US one can't even buy a great house for $1 million.

Again, I guess it depends on lifestyle and desires, but a million is equal to less and less each day as we see inflation going up and monthly expenses that are not debt related going up as well.  Utilities, Gas, Food, no matter where you live and what your debt status is, the cost of living is going up.

In any case it is healthy to keep working after retirement and the proof is that active engaged individuals live longer.
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@azircon · (edited)
Location location location 

You are from west coast, aren’t you?

So yes, I agree. :)

A million is indeed less and less, but it is us who makes it less.

Also, buying a house is not an idea in retirement; either you own a house outright or you don’t want to be in a house. Certainly you shouldn’t be buying a house at 65!

And even if you do, there are plenty of places in the country where you can buy a house for $150K outright :)

Also the point of this piece was retirement now, not in future. At least that was what I was thinking.


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Yeah?

And that’s median there are houses to be had below median too comfortably. I can vouch for my own state of Texas for sure ;)
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@whatsup ·
You are living in a great state, I was just reviewing some TX property.

Here in WA we have out of control spending, taxes, expensive real estate, etc.  Also though, our kids are mostly here and my husband has a couple of years left before retiring so.. it is what it is for now.

In any case, for me retirement is working out in stages.  Quit the daily corporate grind 6 years ago, after the company I worked for went public and we did well on stock options.  

Now I do some contract work for my former employers and will probably to enjoy having a combination of life balance between work and retirement for the foreseeable future and I think that balance is a good thing.

It was an interesting topic that I've been thinking a lot about recently, what is enough?  No conclusions to date.
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