steem的负面言论 by baryonlee

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cn · @baryonlee · Aug 2 '16

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steem的负面言论

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我在[微信群](https://steemit.com/cn/@xiaohui/steemit-welcome-to-steemit-weixin-chat-group)里发了好多steem的负面言论，总结一下

1）没有社会价值的转化。网站还没有广告，也就是说目前网站本身是不赚钱的，没有真实世界的价值流入。目前的金钱都来自系统的自动分配和买steem币的购买者。而且开发团队自己还在卖币。这事说明它们的资金来自系统本身，这事需要细思量。

2）难以取代Facebook等现存的SNS网站。发稿点赞有钱赚确实是一个创新，但是，如果有必要FB也可以搞这个。而SNS的重要一点在于社会关系，而不在于利用社会关系赤裸裸地赚钱。

3）机器人大战。搞1000个10000万个机器人，自动发帖自动赞，可以专门发诗歌和新闻稿，这是机器人擅长的。所有的信息都会写到区块链里，赚钱是一方面，还会堵塞网络。让整个区块链迅速膨胀。只有发的内容是否对人有意义，其实都可以伪装的，另外一方面机器人数量上来以后，是否有意义，会由机器人说的算。

4）无处不在的硬分叉。系统3秒的确认时间，白皮书上对矿工和矿池的抵制言论。系统log上经常出现的硬分叉信息，都说明这不是一个真正的去中心网络，而是由开发者控制的。甚至你发表的文章可能会被硬分叉掉。

5）币的价值风险。STEEM币可以通过交易所买入，但是会不断贬值，贬值分两种，一种是白皮书上说的通涨贬值，每年贬值一半。另一种是价格波动，特别是来自于现存用户的兑现。现存用户发帖动不动就能赚几千美金，他们可以将其转换为steem，然后卖掉，这个抛压会一直存在。

6）矿工矿池无法生存。挖矿得到的是power，这个power无法立即换钱，需要等2年以上的时间然后慢慢换。这就导致电费钱怎么出的问题。持有steem有贬值风险，将power换成steem还有变现风险。没有广大的矿工矿池，也就是说明这个网络是被控制的。

7）steemit网站的不稳定。网站只是一个区块链浏览器的话，整体架构有可能因为区块链的存在，无法做到最优。允许其他浏览器节点存在的话，是否能建成FB那样强大的网站也存质疑。

@laonie 说了《[钱从哪儿来](https://steemit.com/cn/@laonie/c7dvb)》那是指的真正的去中心货币，比如Bitcoin, 我对steem保留质疑态度

但是，注意我说但是了，有名言道：

“世界经济史是一部基于假象和谎言的连续剧。要获得财富，做法就是认清其假象，投入其中，然后在假象被公众认识之前退出游戏。”
－索罗斯

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@baryonlee · Aug 4 '16

大家都冷静了，连微信群都没人说话了。但是看上图，有老人家看着你呢 -:)

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@fundurian · Aug 2 '16

革命是需要时间的考验，就看看未来会变成怎样

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@lemooljiang · Aug 2 '16

分析得不错，现阶段是会给人很多困扰，质疑，这是人性天生的。那你不想想facebook免费给你用，你就心安理得了？？

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@lilong · Aug 2 '16

我每个月都为fb贡献广告费的，像我这样的人多了去了。所以fb才能支撑几亿的用户，股票市值高的合理

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@lemooljiang · Aug 2 '16

那你对比一下facebook早期 怎么经营的，steem早期又是采取什么策略？

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@microluck · Aug 2 '16

有些问题我也是有同感的。比如说网站不投放广告的话，没有实体经济的资金进入。而且 管理团队卖币或者点赞得到币，这都好象是印刷厂在自己印钱，没有实体经济的支撑，通胀会越来越严重的。

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@myfirst · Aug 2 '16

提到的一些质疑也是我等新人需要的答案

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@oflyhigh · Aug 2 '16

好复杂
看着头大

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@steemulate · Aug 3 '16

> 1）没有社会价值的转化。网站还没有广告，也就是说目前网站本身是不赚钱的，没有真实世界的价值流入。

当社区发展起来以后，应该会有办法把与真实世界交换价值。
一点想法： [广告商、Steem 的生态与价值。](https://steemit.com/cn/@steemulate/steem)

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