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RE: People Rank - Using Page Rank Algorithm for Better Curation and Rewards by bendjmiller222

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· @bendjmiller222 ·
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I feel that their should be rewards for people that are early to upvote content that becomes very successful. (This may be in place, but it is not been a concrete fact in my mind). This will keep people checking the new feed instead of only what is trending.

And while I love the feed of people I follow, at the same time when I'm looking at all my favorite posters, I am not discovering new people. This would frustrate me if I was in their shoes. Not everyone is incredibly creative, but everyone has the ability to make interesting content about something they enjoy. 

Rewarding people for looking in the new feed should be encouraged. And also for new users there is almost no reward for curating. I don't know how to fix that, but it should be addressed. 

Also the first #introduceyourself post should have its own feed and rewards increased to encourage people when they start out. Even giving just a higher percentage to the poster and a smaller amount to the curators would be ok. Like 85% to the poster for their first post in a certain tag and then back to normal for others. 

The more new people can be engaged and have contests and things where they feel they are being heard, the better. If steemit doesn't keep up the userbase it will not be as successful as it could be.
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@beanz ·
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What's holding back the user base is the current log in system.  I have friends and family who are following my blog and now have an account but simply can't log in.  The only people I know logging in successfully are techys.  I don't know the solution for this but [here is a suggestion](https://steemit.com/steemit/@beanz/should-steem-be-reserved-for-the-techy-crypto-heads)
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@smooth ·
I agree with you. I don't know if it is the only thing or the primary thing holding back user growth, but It is quite user-unfriendly. Nevertheless we've gained 2000 daily active users, almost a 50% increase, in the past 3-5 days. So the growth is there, still.
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@bendjmiller222 ·
I think the other thing holding some users back is the way the system forces you to upload pictures to a service and then add the image into the post. 

I think steemit would be a great place for some older people to share their wisdom (grandparents, great grandparents), but it is unlikely many will be able to figure out how to post images and videos and format the content.

A site like facebook has a more intuitive feel and allows drag and drop and simple copy and paste of url's into a post. 

A text editor like microsoft word that would allow you to work on multiple stories at the same time would be a great addition to steemit. Being able to drag and drop videos, picture, and gifs and make a variety of text formatting easy from italics to bold to headlines etc.

Most people are already familiar with word or writing emails, so I think tapping into the older generations with an ease of use functionality would bring some new ideas to steemit.

I'd love to see an old motherly or fatherly wise whale or shark embraced by the community and given a platform for their thoughtful "shark/whale song"

<center><img src="https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/08/11/old_sharkc3136.jpg" alt="old_sharkc3136.jpg" border="0" /></center>
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@clevecross ·
When it expands to mobile being anle to use fingerprint would make it easier..... pc...... not so much
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@condra ·
My sister joined, then left because she didn't like the login system.
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@scaredycatguide ·
@bendjmiller222 definitely agree with your first statement.   That's generally how I go about reading posts.  I go to the new section of whatever topic I'm interested in and vote on articles I enjoy.  I tend to be one of the first few people upvoting because of that and 98% of the time those posts don't trend and my curation is little, but I rather read stuff I enjoy.   Beneath it all majority of people will cash $$$s though.  Just how society is wired.
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@bendjmiller222 ·
Yes and that is another thing about steemit I like. Not everyone wants to make large sums of money or treat it as a job. You may simply enjoy reading articles and making a little money commenting or posting pictures you've taken.

 Steemit is one of the few places I know where the people at the top are not consumed with greed. I don't see @ned and @dan looking for ways to cut back rewards and pad their own pocket. They are building wealth by allowing others to become successful and may take a pay cut to do so. But can anyone honestly tell me they would rather have Zuckerberg running steemit than @ned and @dan?
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@anonymint · (edited)
> I feel that their should be rewards for people that are early to upvote content that becomes very successful...

> And while I love the feed of people I follow, at the same time when I'm looking at all my favorite posters, I am not discovering new people. This would frustrate me if I was in their shoes.

I agree with the goal and reason why we need it, but the algorithm you suggest (which is in place) does not accomplish the goal and appears to incentivize the opposite result of a circlejerk groupthink as @condra above [as well I](https://steemit.com/steem/@anonymint/blog-rewards-can-t-be-widely-distributed#@anonymint/re-anonymint-re-nanzo-scoop-re-anonymint-re-nanzo-scoop-re-anonymint-blog-rewards-can-t-be-widely-distributed-20160811t042858237z) explained.

I believe you are actually supporting a feature which is destroying what you want.
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@anonymint ·
> And whale holdings are also declining as a percentage of total steem/steem power.

That trend reversed:

https://steemit.com/stats/@liberosist/steem-power-distribution-trends-august-update-the-re-distribution-skips-down
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@bendjmiller222 ·
It is a situation that definitely has a complex solution needed @anonymint. I'm not steadfast in any position and great ideas can flow from people with multiple points of view, so the more people that weigh in the better. 

>I believe you are actually supporting a feature which is destroying what you want.

I wish I had an easy answer, but I believe it will take some trial and error putting together this solution. But keep up the good conversation. I really value everyone's opinion as long as they are adding insight to the comments beyond throwaway comments like "Great post!" Those do nothing in my mind except make me leery about following them. 

Comments are just as valuable as content and should be treated with the same respect and thought when possible. Not only does it engage others, but it shows you actually took the time to read the bloggers content instead of simply upvoting and making a quick comment hoping a whale will feel generous that day.
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@tombstone ·
In response to @anonymint: if I'm not mistaken, steemit related posts are declining as a percentage of total posts.  And whale holdings are also declining as a percentage of total steem/steem power.  So I think we're moving in the right direction -- toward having a more diversified platform on multiple levels.   

Could things be tweaked and refined?  Of course, but I think it's a far stretch to say the reward for early voting (of content that becomes popular) defeats the purpose, let alone "destroys what you want", as you so dramatically put it.
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@smooth · (edited)
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> I feel that their should be rewards for people that are early to upvote content that becomes very successful. (This may be in place, but it is not been a concrete fact in my mind). This will keep people checking the new feed instead of only what is trending.

That is exactly how the system operates right now. People who find posts already in trending and then vote for them get little to no curation rewards.
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@autosmile13 ·
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@cryptofunk ·
I think everyone should get equal part of the rewards whatever time the upvote is given within the first payout time frame. It is better to read an article in full before deciding if you will upvote. Rather than following the whales and upvoting blindly
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