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Statement from the @blockbrothers #2. by blockbrothers

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· @blockbrothers ·
Statement from the @blockbrothers #2.
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Thank you for your trust in @blockbrothers. 

We were against the Soft Fork because we don't believe in freezing anyone's assets and feared the precedent it would set. And we were right, while the Soft Fork turned out to be ineffective, the precedent will always be here and will loom over Steem forever.

What Justin did to take back his stake, by utilizing customers funds on exchanges, we also oppose. Using exchanges for this purpose is equally unacceptable.

With Justin now getting his stake back and the exchanges clearing most of their proxies we are seeing pure DPOS.

This is how it should have been from the start.

Having said that we do understand why both parties took both actions.

We, @blockbrothers, would have preferred more talks before action. We are happy to see these talks finally started.

The only outcome to the situation that makes sense for users, investors and witnesses is to make a deal that will suit both parties. Something we have said from the start. 

We are just waiting for everyone to realize this.

Thanks again for your support.

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@abitcoinskeptic ·
Another reasonable statement to add to a growing list. I'm seeing good things.

I'm interested in your thoughts on 'a top priority' to have Justin apologize for calling witnesses supporting 22.2 malicious hackers. 

Is covering asses or saving faces a top priority? In my case I support some of these people, but for the time being I think convincing Justin to wait before selling while moving forward on exploring the idea that the ninja mined stake is for Steem and not Steemit is most important.
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@valued-customer ·
I don't think Sun's maligning the witnesses carries any weight with folks that matter.  From Buterin to BTC, anyone that understands the situation recognizes what Sun is up to and what the Steem witnesses have now achieved by taking 7 of the consensus positions and blocking Tron from executing a HF and extricating Binance and Huobi from their fraudulent positions.

I expect legal action to remedy the tortuous harm customers of those exchanges have suffered to completely reveal just who hacked maliciously to those that don't already know, and CZ will be lucky to avoid criminal charges IMHO.  Sun as well.  Dunno who runs Huobi, but them too.  
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@abitcoinskeptic ·
Sounds like a long legal battle will happen.


I think Justin engineered a lot of this and at least anticipated it. Don't be tricked again. I think he has us exactly where he wants us. Lets not becime completely disorganized and squabbling for scraps. 

Maybe he messed with CZ, CS (huobi) and Ned, too.
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@block.kids ·
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@dobartim ·
Real Decision
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@free-reign · (edited)
You are fucking SCUM of the earth, and a VERY GREEDY motherfucker who crawled to Justin Sun's side as soon as he offered a payout to traitors like you. It is fucking DISGUSTING that a fucking worm like you has a HIVE witness account and got the airdrop even though you're the biggest fucking traitor/greedy Justin Sun ass-licker there was out of EVERYONE.  I'm not caring MUCH FOR HIVE anymore, now that I see they let your worthless ass in, and even PAID your traitor fucking ass.

This is a travesty of justice, all for a greedy fucking pig like you.
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@gogreenbuddy ·
a bit harsh no?
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@hans001 ·
This action goes much further...


Well freezing funds is not okay.. what if it was used in the btc 51% attacks.. every blockchain can block accounts as every bank can freeze or plunder the bank accounts.. The president is created now. I hate banks and everything around it.


What Mr sun did...  was accusing the witnesses of hacking... Well if they were hackers those servers weren't alive for long they were taken down as the exchanges involved would have been taken down also. 


Mr sun bought for 10million dollars steem if you buy 25% of a chain and you own a chain this would be with the intention of taking over the chain... like the 51% btc war but the 25% pre mined stake would be invested into steem... now he said I bought it out of business point of view I want to earn... 

Everyone was against steemit to dump their steem on the market... this is the same.. 

If I buy a product I investigate the product if I buy a house what I don't ever do in the Netherlands again anymore because my house got sold for a bill of 1000 euro.. leaving me with a debt of 81.000euro never ever again.. its illegal and I'm fighting against that But that's aside.. but when I bought the house I hired someone who looked if the house was good. You buy steemit and 10 million dollars worth of steem stare in those brown eyes and say ok? You don't investigate what the coin stood for? You don't look in the kitchen and see who is working in the company you buy?
The card game splinterlands has tron... 

It gives me bad vibes... 




Exchanges also used the customers funds in a war... what about the next 51% btc war? Are or were those exchanges also involved in those wars? With customers funds? Personally I say those exchanges involved have to be closed.


Also the 20 witnesses president they can do anything what they want.. you see that is also not okay. Top 20 can easily be taken over. Someone with a big wallet can buy himself into the chain and just take over the chain... do whatever they want... It was just waiting for the moment that something like this would happen. 
But the top 20? It's not good take the top 100.. or something like that. I'm not a specialist but it isn't ok. That must be changed if there is a future for steem. 

Your statement is too soft is my opinion. Yes freezing accounts is not okay and you would have voted against it like this is also this witness system is failing... 







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@ifesports ·
Thanks for this piece 
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@jeffjagoe ·
I would love to see a public statement from @blockbrothers explaining why you think you dropped from Witness Position #1 to Witness Position #55 overnight.
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@raymondelaparra ·
congratulation
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@lasseehlers · (edited)
Like I said the day Justin Bought Steem, he will not respect censorship resistance and he is just trying to make a quick buck.

Today your friend Justin censored the HIVE announcement. Now you owe the community an apology for all the stupid shit you have been saying for way too long.

https://www.lassecash.com/communityfork/@lasseehlers/announcing-the-launch-of-hive-blockchain-repost-on-lassecash-due-to-justin-sun-censored-the-original-post-from-hiveio-on-steem

Its on LASSECASH where, Justin can't censor anything.

/Lasse
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@marki99 ·
I only see one possible compromise. Remove the voting rights but no constraints on selling the stake. 

Either this or hardfork into two coins.
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@randr10 ·
I think the problem remains there that if they remove the voting rights but allow the sale of the stake, it can easily be moved to a fresh account and be used to upvote witnesses.  I wish they had simply waited until the town hall before doing anything rash, although hindsight is 20/20 as they say.  I'm not a witness, so I wasn't privy to the discussions between the witnesses that executed the 22.2 softfork.  At this point all I care about is keeping Tron's zombie witnesses from hard forking this chain out of existence.  We'll figure out the rest later.
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@melinda010100 ·
I miss you and still think there should be room on Hive for for everyone's opinions. 
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@midlet ·
What deal makes the most sense to you?
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@minismallholding ·
$0.47
What you're saying here seems to be in contrast with what others are saying as to why the SF was implemented. From what @tombstone has said, there seems to be a bit more to it than there appears to be on the outside looking in. At the time of the SF I chose not to make a judgement, despite the questionability of restricting someone's use of their stake, purely because I wasn't privy to all the ins and outs of everything and wasn't really aware of what had been going on at the front lines. So I had to trust that those on the front lines knew what they were doing for the sake of the community who voted them in. Yet from what you've said here, I'm now not sure that the lower level witnesses are in the loop as much as they should be. Is this an oversight? It seems you weren't aware that attempts to talk to Sun had been ignored. 
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@mytechtrail ·
I currently proxy you for my witness votes. Are you at least voting enough top witnesses to keep a hard fork from happening until some sort of agreement can be worked out? I believe that the 22.4444 fork that they are running has reverted things to the 22.1 state. 
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@epic-fail ·
Why would you proxy and then ask what they are voting for? Get a set of balls and vote for the witnesses yourself. Blockbrothers has dropped to 59th and will continue to sink.
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@lucylin ·
$0.04
>Blockbrothers has dropped to 59th and will continue to sink.

I think you may be correct , sir!
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@mytechtrail ·
$0.04
Well I have changed my vote after seeing their response to Justin's "post".
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@organduo ·
Talking is always better than killing.
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@preparedwombat ·
$0.07
>would have preferred more talks before action

AFAIK, many witnesses tried to communicate with Sun *before* the soft fork, but he didn’t respond. Hard to have “more talks” if one side isn’t willing to talk.
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@sharpshot ·
$0.03
That's what the witnesses said. I don't think they were wrong to do the soft fork and it wouldn't surprise me if Justin planned this takeover from the start. I just don't get how a social media platform that's anti-censorship can work with Chinese owners? I like the Chinese people, I'm just not a fan of the way they can't say what they want about certain things.
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@randr10 ·
I had unvoted you as witness for the sake of getting the top 30 above but I've reinstated it just now.  I removed a vote from a former top 20 whose rhetoric I find particularly problematic.  I like what you have to say here and I wouldn't mind seeing this voice of reason in the top 20.  It's not much but every vote counts, right?
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@retinox ·
jep 👍🏼 
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@roundbeargames ·
statement from justin's bitch ;)
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@roundbeargames ·
you're gonna end up running justin's code and freezing people's funds.
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@skepticology ·
The fork 22.2 was an ethical failure as well as a tactical failure. Sun's tweets about airdrops did not constitute an existential threat to STEEM. If a powerdown/transfer was initiated on the accounts in question, witnesses would have plenty of time to establish lines of communication and decide on a course of action. However the bigger issue is the tactical failure of allowing a single entity to easily control the entire chain. The witnesses have neglected this fundamental security risk, probably for their own favor, and this was the most obvious attack vector after freezing wallets. It was the only question I asked the witnesses about on the [Steem Consensus Witness Statement Soft Fork 22.2](https://steempeak.com/@skepticology/re-softfork222-q67oo4) thread, and only two responded.

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@steemitboard ·
Congratulations @blockbrothers! You received a personal award!

<table><tr><td>https://steemitimages.com/70x70/http://steemitboard.com/@blockbrothers/community.png</td><td>Thank you for the witness votes you made to support your Steem community and for keeping the Steem blockchain decentralized</td></tr></table>

<sub>_You can view [your badges on your Steem Board](https://steemitboard.com/@blockbrothers) and compare to others on the [Steem Ranking](https://steemitboard.com/ranking/index.php?name=blockbrothers)_</sub>


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###### [Vote for @Steemitboard as a witness](https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/account-witness-vote?witness=steemitboard&approve=1) to get one more award and increased upvotes!
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@stephenkendal ·
About time people were starting to see sense.!!

Came across this Blog because I am a big fan of @exyle and it was on his feed.

I agree with every single word above.

Resteemed.

Stephen
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@themonetaryfew ·
$0.17
Not on peakd.com yet? Been silent for a while now...
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@tombstone ·
$43.75
Exclaiming you were right doesn't make you right. The only precedent the witnesses set was that they will protect the blockchain when presented with an existential threat, and I'm glad they did. 

In addition to an underlying skepticism that Ned would care enough to do a deal that actually takes into account the community's interests, Justin's own INITIAL actions toward the community were clearly not a good sign. Among other things, he confused Steemit with Steem, talked about swapping STEEM for TRX, migrating dApps, he showed that he clearly had NO IDEA that Steemit's STEEM stake had obligations attached, and he didn't even respond to meeting requests (like, seriously?). This forced the witnesses to act defensively such that nothing crazy would happen. 

That's a perfectly reasonable and in fact responsible action considering the circumstances. ESPECIALLY considering that we're not talking about just ANY stake here. We're talking about Steemit's ninja-mined stake which, due to the attached obligations, is CLEARLY a special case. 

So please stop pretending the action taken by witnesses has wider meaning and somehow looms over Steem forever. And stop comparing this perfectly reasonable action to the highly unethical action JS took by colluding with exchanges to usurp user stake and lock it up for 13 weeks in order to hijack the network with illegitimately voted sockpuppet witness nodes. Such comparisons are not intellectually honest. 

And btw, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that not only was the action taken by witnesses reasonable and responsible, but also that Justin's response PROVED that the concerns witnesses had to begin with were WELL FOUNDED. We now know what JS is capable of. If the witnesses had not acted, in a few months we'd very likely be EXACTLY where we are now, except that JS would be far more prepared to force his will upon the community. 

Let's not be so naive, please. Thanks.
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@acidyo ·
Yep, this part here triggered me as well.

>Using exchanges for this purpose is _equally_ unacceptable.
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@block.kids ·
> Exclaiming you were right doesn't make you right. The only precedent the witnesses set was that they will protect the blockchain when presented with an existential threat, and I'm glad they did.

A threat that has existed since this chain's inception, and they didn't really pay attention to it because they had a few accounts who pretty much guaranteed the top 20 positions.
 
Essentially, nothing changed. Just leadership of the biggest stakeholder company on here. Right then it became okay for the witnesses to 'protect the chain'. Foul play.
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@borislavzlatanov ·
$0.04
Also, look at the person's history: [Former Employees Sue Justin Sun and TRON Foundation, Alleging Workplace Hostilities](https://www.coindesk.com/former-employees-sue-justin-sun-and-tron-foundation-alleging-workplace-hostilities). This isn't his first acquisition after which employees have resigned.
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@bpcvoter2 ·
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@lallo ·
These are fucking sacrosanct words!! In my opinion you guys have been too good!! Person like him doesn't deserve nothing!!
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@acidyo ·
>doesn't deserve nothing!!

I don't think he deservers everything.

:p
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@lordbutterfly ·
$1.28
Justin expected pushover centralized trash like LINO that he easily assimilated. What he got was a bunch of angry idealist that wouldnt take his shit. 
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@block.kids ·
Idealists that only think in codes and have literally no understanding of how humans respond to threats.

Did we really think he'd sit back and watch us freeze his stake and dictate the terms to him?

This post stated the obvious truth. Enough time should have been given for a dialogue.
It's amazing how people keep talking about what Justin did, as if that's all that happened.
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@travelwithus ·
Nothing to ad. You are one the clear thinking witness here. 
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