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Are OG Steemians Going To Get Squeezed Out By YouTubers? by brianphobos

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· @brianphobos ·
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Are OG Steemians Going To Get Squeezed Out By YouTubers?
[![Thumbnail](http://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmdYkZPDFPmG7q9RzaTRQhvZ6L1Bt7EmZcoKy1YEzmNHpe)](https://dlive.io/video/brianphobos/8ffd3fd0-20ad-11e8-be01-5bf7a6e5d482)

I have seen a lot of people worrying that DTube, DLive, and Steemit will be a revolving door for popular YouTubers to come and they will initially soak up a lot of rewards and then rewards will go to the next big name and so on and so forth.   We have been though many phases on here and there was a time when the conspiracy theorist / anarchist were getting big payouts.  Before that it was the pretty girl era...... actually that era never ends.    

Uploading this video to DLive To test it out.   DTube is getting blasted with way too much traffic.   

My video is at [DLive](https://dlive.io/video/brianphobos/8ffd3fd0-20ad-11e8-be01-5bf7a6e5d482)
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@bethwheatcraft ·
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Dtube needs Dtube stars, I just did a video about this with my non profit page. Dtube keeps trying to collect and import YouTubers, rather than build their consistently-posting base into bigger and better vloggers that will use their position to advertise for the platform. YouTubers are cool, but they aren't bringing their followings with them, so giving them huge payouts is kind of a waste of SP delegation, IMHO. People are going to be drawn to apps like Dtube because of their novelty. That means people will want to see new faces, new content, cool content, diverse content, and right now, Dtube looks like an endless selfie echo chamber of people talking about Crypto. The reason for this is because everyone, including myself is chasing a Dtube upvote. As soon as they restructure how they reward their content creators, they will start to receive more diverse content. Until then, it will just be people rah-rahing about how great Steemit and Dtube are, and YouTubers trying to awkwardly talk about subjects they know nothing about, also in search of that ever elusive dtube upvote.

I have noticed in my circle of friends at least, a huge drop-off in people posting. Is this because the price of Steem is down? Morale is low? Dtube inconsistency is pissing people off?  People are just naturally a bit twitchy? My feed is looking pretty sad as of late, and it makes me sad.
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@brianphobos ·
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Yeah it is a combination of reasons why I think people aren't creating as much.   STEEM got clear to $8.57 and people were excited and pushing hard.  Then when it falls and SBD fall people consciously or subconsciously stop hustling as hard.   It can be very tough for sure to really make it on here as a pure content creator.   

Some stars did develop here like @papa-pepper . 

I'm personally not as worried about the YouTubers coming over as much anymore.   I used to be worried about it more before we did Hard Fork 19 because it seemed like the votes all gravitated mainly towards the new popular person on here.   Once we got past that then people are still in their clusters they have formed.
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@rulesforrebels ·
Very good point, the time to hustle is when the price is low and there's less competition for peoples attention but that's not really how it plays out in reality. Same can be said of Bitcoin price, the time to buy is at $6,000 when everyone is saying it's dead, not at $20,000, however without fail its when were at an ATH that everyone is rushing in to buy
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@harleymechanix ·
DTube Star........ I like the sound of that........
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@harleymechanix ·
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Definitely will be interesting to see how all this is going to shake out.  More big time users means less reward pool for everyone but more adoption means price rise..........soo.......... maybe its a wash. 

I don't think youtube is sustainable anymore.
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@brianphobos ·
Yeah it will be interesting for sure.   I feel like when there is a big flood of new users the price can sometimes kind of sag though because people potentially cash out.   DTube is getting hammered with uploads.  I'm having a hard time even uploading there right now.   That is why I went through DLive.   

I watched @furiouspete123 's video about how ridiuclous YouTube is getting on taking videos down and all that.   I just think they are trying to be too politically correct and appease everyone which is wrecking everything.
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@harleymechanix ·
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Its been screwy for a while.  At the risk of labeling myself a tinfoil hat type.........I listen to Alex Jones podcast.  They been censoring him for a while with no warnings or reasons.  Pretty sad if thats the direction media is going in.  

Decentralized everything is looking better and better every day.
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@rulesforrebels ·
Hey Harley, do you think Youtube is really in trouble? I know we all have our frustrations with Youtube but at the end of the day they are damn good at what they do. I can go down a wormhole of watching like 5 hours of Youtube videos because they are so good at knowing what interests me and delivering it to me. I love DTube and love the concept but let's be honest, I've never sat and watched DTube for 5 hours and its not nearly as good as delivering what I want.

Until something better or at least somewhat comparable to Youtube comes out they aren't going anywhere. If some youtuber gets annoyed and moves on there's 100 others waiting to fill his slot
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@harleymechanix · (edited)
In the short term no.  I still get a ton of my info from youtube and there is tons of useful content on there.  

In the long term if there is no incentive to create content there is no platform.  Right now it is conservatives and "conspiracy videos" and "fake news" and gun videos (one of mine included)  I think more and more people are turned off by the defacto partisan censorship.  And the hypocrisy of pedophiles and terrorists being allowed to remain but rational conservative thought (that truthfully isn't that controversial) is being censored.  Plus you can't tell me the recent changes to monitization weren't just a huge money grab.  

Dtube is coming along but still has a lot of development to go before it is even a competitor.  

YouTube need to realize their users ARE their product.  If the users are abused enough they will leave.

In short SJW championing and virtue signalling have taken precedence over good business.  IMO that is not a sustainable model.
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@rulesforrebels ·
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I think this is very interesting how some large Youtubers are starting to come over to Steemit.

I definitely think some will come here and soak up some nice rewards and then move on. 

Another thing I see probably happening is someone comes over, they are the hot new thing, get a lot of attention, make a lot of money, and then as soon as the next Youtuber comes on they are forgotten about a little bit and stop posting and move on.

One piece of advice I would give the Steemit community or something I personally would like to see happen is don't just upvote and reward someone just because they are a big Youtuber or a known person. They should have to work on this platform just like everyone else.

Not to talk shit about anyone but just to give an example, I like the hodgetwins, I follow them on Youtube and thought it was cool when they came over here. They have also made some great content on here. That said I see them post a meme which is just a screenshot of someone else's meme they took on their phone. That earns like $50 and then you have long time Steemit users posting quality longform content making $1, it's just not right nor is it good for Steemit.

If a big Youtuber or popular person posts good content by all means rewards them but don't 100% upvote everything that xyz youtuber puts up just because of who they are, that's just stupid. 

I get why this happens, part of it is because we get paid as curators so if I know furiouspetes stuff is gonna make money and I upvote it I earn more money. I think that's part of it. I think another part is hey I wanna make friends with them and maybe they'll upvote me and the last part I think is hey it's cool they are on here, let's help them make a bunch of moeny so they stay on here and tell other Youtubers about it.

At the end of the day they should be treated and judged the same way as everyone else, don't 100% upvote everthing a big Youtuber puts out just because they are a big Youtuber, it's not good for Steemit in the longrun
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@brianphobos ·
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Yeah I hear what you are saying for sure.   Also I have been watching to see if @furiouspete123 and @hodgetwins end up voting for anyone but mainly they just vote for themselves it looks like.  They don't seem to engage much which I sort of understand in their position.   

It seems like for a lot of the big YouTubers they mainly put the content up and people say what they are going to say down in the comments with little interaction usually from the creator.  Some people will chime in once in awhile.   So they are used to everyone watching them.   

So I don't know for how long that will work with those guys.   Also being the top 5 most famous people on the platform can sort of be an interesting dynamic.   They are basically A listers on here.
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@rulesforrebels ·
Yeah I've noticed the same thing. Obviously everyone can treat Steemit how they like but if someone isn't going to be part of the community I personally am not going to reward them as much as if they did. Otherwise it's just comming over here to take take take and not give and I don't think everyone should help enrich them if they aren't going to be a real member of the community here. 

I do see a day where were going to have DTube stars, we already have Steemit stars in a sense, once that becomes more the case big Youtubers can come over here and will probably get some attention but they may have trouble competing with our homegrown stars here. 

In fairness I will say I kinda get it, managing a Youtube channel, especially one as large as these guys is a lot of work so it is difficult to engage their Youtube community and create content ther eand then also interact wtih everyone on here.
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@sift666 ·
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@brianphobos ·
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I think there are a few over on YouTube but they haven't arrived yet.   Hahhahah.   Funny meme
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