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Is @yallapapi Profitable? (I Did My Best To Find Out) by brianphobos

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Is @yallapapi Profitable? (I Did My Best To Find Out)
Most of you who have been to the Trending page in the past few weeks know who @yallapapi is and maybe you are enrolled in his #SharkSchool .  For starters I want to give my general opinions on a few things.  I'm not opposed to the premise of paid upvote bots.  I don't have anything against @yallapapi or his content.  I actually think he is a very talented writer.  He has a way of keeping readers engaged.  That might just be me and a handful of other guys though.  
### Like I have said before I feel like 80% of the people on this blockchain were home schooled and @yallapapi 's content would be like taking a home schooled Amish child and throwing them into a club in Vegas on New Years Eve.   They just are going to tune out and be upset.  

The rest are basement dwelling ghosts.  I'm not sure where that leaves me ........ oh yeah..... that leaves me with low ass payouts........ but with a few Brian Phobos fans who like to watch my digressions from a distance.  Moving on...... 

I tried to go through and see if his last post was profitable based on current prices of STEEM and SBD.  Now this is a moving target because by the time he gets the payout SBD might be worth only $1.50 or something so who knows if it actually works out.   

Here were the upvotes 
1) promobot - 15
2) appreciator - 35
3) the rising - 21
4) rocky1 - 45
5) resteem.bot - 0.2
6) Steemvote - 0.5
7) Minnowpond - 0.5
8) Byresteem - 2
9) Bumper - 0.5
10) Ottoman - 0.35 
11) big-whale - 0.7
12) ebargains - 1
13) hugo4u - 1 
14) hugewhale - 0.7
15) sportic - 1
16) puppybot - 0.5
17) gangresteem - 0.5
18) smartsteem - 55
19) buildawhale - 40
20) upmewhale - 11
21) upme - 33
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### 264.45 SBD @ $1.91 = $505.10 Spent

### $526.89 (Current Post Payout) X 0.75 = 394.50 or 197.25 SBD and 106.62 STEEM Power

### Or $572.03 Total Value For Post

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### Net $572.03 - $505.10 = $66.93

So basically if my calculations are correct he will net $66.93 on his latest post if prices stay the same. He got flagged by several accounts because they don't feel his work is deserving of being on the trending page but again that is all subjective.   

## What Strategies Work  
I'm real into strategies and I do a lot of observations on what other people are doing to try to win this game. Some techniques I don't think are going to work in the long run.   

If you are a whale then you have already won.  All you have to do is either put a bunch of cookie cutter content creators who are a "safe bet" on autovotes or just delegate your power to an upvote bot and check out for the most part.  Completely passive income!!! 

### If you are a content creator you pretty much will have to create cookie cutter content that won't offend anyone.  And DON'T EVER say anything bad about STEEM! 

You don't have to say anything of any relevance or actually teach anyone anything.  You just have to have a positive attitude and say STEEM is the best and also say how you were home schooled. Take pictures, draw pictures, make cupcakes, paraphrase CoinDesk and CoinTelegraph articles .....etc.  You get the picture.  Then you are the "Safe Bet." 

## @yallapapi Isn't A Safe Bet
The age demographic on the STEEM blockchain is too old and formerly home schooled so they aren't going to like his content enough to put him on auto upvotes.  

Would he just be better off Powering UP instead of buying upvotes?  Probably not.  Even if you do the math of powering up $20,000 or $100,000 it doesn't change your voting value enough to make an impact in a reasonable amount of time unless the price goes parabolic after you buy in way lower.   

He probably will gain more Instagram followers from posting here but that is going to be tough to monetize because of the type of content as well.   

## What Should I Do? 
 I have been really torn on what to do.  More so than I have been in a long time actually.   My ideas have ranged from powering down my entire account and going even deeper into EOS.  Not that I don't think STEEM is really cool and has a ton of potential but when the EOS main net launches there will be tons of hype around it.  That happens June 2nd.  At this point I would only get 2/3rds the way through the power down.  It is possible we will see things built on EOS before we see Smart Media Tokens on this blockchain. Then if my EOS investment goes real big I could take some of that money and power back up over here.  

I have also thought about just delegating my power to the bots and give into the going trend.  One of the main reasons that has been keeping me from doing that is that there are some people on here that really need our support and I'm seeing it more and more that no one is going to be able to get a decent vote.  Everyone is going to have to buy a vote.  

Another thing I have discussed with a couple of other people is to formally create an alliance cluster where we all agree to upvote each other at certain percentages based on the amount of Steem Power that the accounts have.  This is somewhat organically happening but even that is falling apart for a lot of us that have been here for almost two years.   
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/survivor/images/9/93/Untitled_picture.png/revision/latest?cb=20130723034028

In a lot of ways that takes away from the premise of voting for "good" content but we have went so far away from that already that it really doesn't matter anymore.   At this point it gets more into protecting our monetary and time investment.   We have had so much time erosion here in these dips it is unreal.  Before you can power down the boom is over and you are BUSTED!  

## Conclusion
While @yallapapi might be marginally profitable buying all the votes I think it will be hard for him to build a true following here that has any real power.  He isn't going to be like Tai Lopez where we just keep seeing him for years and his account just keeps earning and building tons of power.   

### Also I would like to know everyone's opinion on having a formalized alliance cluster where the mantra will be like "I will vote for you if you vote for me!"  We have to protect our investment somehow and honestly I feel like that makes more sense than the people totally hogging all their power for themselves.  It is either that or delegate the power to the bots or operate my own upvote bot so that everyone is essentially paying for the upvote.   There is no easy solution here.   
 
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@brandonp ·
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I would be down to work out some sort of alliance to upvote.  Count me in for that.
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@brianphobos ·
Awesome.  Are you on Steemit.Chat?   We have similar voting power and can certainly build the alliance out!
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@brandonp ·
Yea I am! Sorry it took so long to get back to you.
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@builderofcastles ·
$1.08
The interesting thing about this problem is that the lowest denominator is still profitable compared to any banks.

Just voting for curation gives a decent return.  (at least when you are over 1MV, where you get at least 0.001 for just voting)

I remember a time when i had to be lucky, and know what i was doing to get a curation reward.  I got like 0.007 SP per week.

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Now, i am pretty sure what you are asking is what will give you the greatest reward.  But, is that reward you are considering purely monetary?

For me, i feel i would be a great blogger... but i have to get myself flowing and i need a lot more practice (and getting something written each day, so staying on steem where i get paid for practicing is good thing)

For you, i do not know.

I would suggest powering down.  Merely because you can always, instantly, power back up.  However, there are timings in the future that you will really want liquid STEEM.

I believe we will see a spike in SBD to about $10.  It will probably last no more than a week.
STEEM will steadily rise, with some spikes as all the other cryptos spike.

I am pretty sure STEEM will be $10 by the end of the year.  But what is that in comparison to EOS, or LTC, or even bitcoin?
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@brianphobos ·
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Part of the issue where it makes it worse for me is that I'm making my money mainly online.  Ad revenue, crypto, eCommerce stuff so when I'm getting low payouts it isn't like..... well I'm building more power for the future.   It starts to be like..... man I can't keep this up forever and survive without cashing stuff out.  

It's a good point about what it will be compared to EOS, or LTC.  That is my thinking with just going deeper into EOS.  I just have a feeling that it could really blow up after the main net is live and people are porting their Ethereum projects over to EOS.  With the spike today it might even pass Litecoin here shortly.
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@chelsea88 ·
There's already a formalized #thealliance  cluster.... you should call your thing something else because people will get that confused
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@doctorspence · (edited)
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I think about powering up vs paying for votes. You would need 500k STEEM POWER that would cost like 1.3 mil USD just to have an upvote worth $90.
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@brianphobos ·
Yeah the math gets pretty brutal.
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@gellyarenas ·
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>Another thing I have discussed with a couple of other people is to formally create an alliance cluster where we all agree to upvote each other at certain percentages based on the amount of Steem Power that the accounts have.

This is something so common here in Steemit nowadays, actually in the "Hispano hablantes" community have been going on for so long... When I found about it I was heavy maaad! Why? Because I felt new users doesn't have the opportunity to grow, but just like you said:

>In a lot of ways that takes away from the premise of voting for "good" content but we have went so far away from that already that it really doesn't matter anymore. At this point it gets more into protecting our monetary and time investment. 

That's the real problem, everyone sees this community as a money maker and that's it. Yeah, I know it helps a lot in your financial situation (I live in Venezuela and when I found out about this it was like a miracle because we have an economic crisis here) but the point is not to put whatever you thought at last minute and that's it. That is really unfair for new users because if they do that everyone is behind them saying they don't belong here because is not "good" content, but that is so stupid because when people here reach a high reputation or become whales start to being lazy about making good content and post dumb stuff, and let me tell you, I don't even read that because it's pointless.
The thing here is, that I truly belive this is going to ruin Steemit, because if new users doesn't give it a chance because they feel is impossible to get an upvote, then this page is never going to grow. What I do is that I introduce new people to the page and help them until their reputation starts to grow (Some of them have better reputation than me! imagine that... And yeah, I know I don't have the a high reputation but well, I'm just trying to help) and we help each other in that process.
Sorry that my comment is really long! haha I just had so much to said about this๐Ÿ˜‚ Greetings!
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@brianphobos ·
Thank you for your comment and yeah I can imagine that this platform could provide so much hope in a place like Venezuela with everything that is going on there.   It provides hope for us in the United States as well and that is what is so tough.   It is expensive to live in the United States so the feeling could likely be the same where we don't feel like we are getting as much out of it as we are putting in and we hope for high payouts and then get upset if a post doesn't make as much as we expected.   

The new user retention situation is pretty bad for sure.   It would be intimidating as a new user trying to post and gain a following.  I have almost been here for two years and it is also tough for me to make a lot right now on the posts.   

The time when it is really profitable is when not as many users can get on because it is so hard to create an account here and then the price spikes way up so a bunch of new people are locked out and the reward pool is worth a lot of money each day.   Those situations happen so briefly though.
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@jhaysnsonofbenz ·
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I have been away from steemit for a while now due to work load at office... And I so miss going through your post....
I'll have to go through your former post @yallapapi to know the connection but just going through your present analysis, I just hope he takes your advice and rearrange his steps.... Steemit is like a community, and you can't go around doing things the elder state-mens frown....
You won't just go anywhere...
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@brianphobos ·
$0.08
Well I'm not really even following my own advice.  He is trying to cut his own path but I personally don't think it will be super profitable for him.  He will be in a hamster wheel I feel like of always trying to buy the upvotes and the amount of people who are new and upvote him won't really have enough power to really influence the payout in a large manner.
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@jhaysnsonofbenz ·
Good point sir
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@kenanqhd ·
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I like reading @yallapapi's posts because they are entertaining and informative. To be honest, I am not a fan of circle jerkers or people that complain a lot. I'm just doing what I enjoy to do. For the time being, I like to make content for Steem and use it as a way to practice my skills and build a following before this platform takes off.

People will want more consistent payouts. I previously thought of the upvote cluster thing you mentioned. Basically, a "contract" would be set up between you and others (or a whale) whereby they will put you on an autovoter as long as you both agree to some terms. That's a logical evolution of this platform when you don't have a central authority responsible for paying you or giving you ad revenue.

At the same time, most of the SP belongs to @steemit, @steem and @ned. None of them are active in upvoting content but they delegate some to other platforms like DTube and DLive (which are very active in upvoting content). It would be nice if they delegated more SP to others or became active in upvoting content here .That would allow more people to get a decent payout. 
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@brianphobos ·
$1.10
I agree.  @ned delegated to @sweetsssj at one point but a lot of people called foul on that because she started selling upvotes and then she has a large group of accounts that are supposedly her family that each get 100% upvotes on day 6 right before the payouts.   @berniesanders and others were calling it out which was a lot of drama.  So anytime someone has a lot of power they get put under the microscope more.   If we went around upvoting our own comments at $0.25 each no one would probably make a big deal but if we could Pay ourself $25 each comment then people would start to call foul for sure.   I guess it is the nature of being in a decentralized economy.
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@peekbit ·
yes it's all more complex than I thought before... so I just go ahead letting you peek... as long as you like it... ๐Ÿ˜Š @peekbit
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@rulesforrebels ·
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I just recently started dabbling with the voting bots, I don't put a ton of effort into finding the best ones or researching payouts but if I have a post I want to get some attention I'll google "best steemit voting bots" and whateer the first post that comes up I'll send a steem dollar to the 3-4 they suggest. OverallI don't find I get a ROI on my spend but at least it gets a post some attention, I don't do it very often unless it's a post I really like and want to get some eyes on it. The other week I did manage to get a post on the "hot" page about 10 or 12 slots down from the top but that only lasted a few minutes
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@brianphobos ·
$0.10
Most of the time it seems like there isn't a positive return on it and a big reason for that is certainly the prices falling so it is like kicking the can down the road and then you realize by the time you can pick the can up it is all beat up and rusty.  LOL    In the future when prices are surging I'm sure people will catch a small little ride from it at some point but it will be short lived.   

I feel like if a user had a fair amount of power and a decent level of support and then amped it up with some upvote bots to get on the "hot" page it could help gain some fake low power followers.   

I'm even seeing a lot of the users who joined when I did go ahead and just delegate to the upvote bots.  It is a tough situation for sure.  People's main choices are this.  

1) Continue posting and supporting other content creators for a pretty low return. 
2) Delegate to upvote bots and at least earn that low return passively and just go work on other things
3) Try to use the upvote bots to increase the payout which is minimal at best.   

The content creators who made the cookie cutter content and were well liked and then delegated their power away on top of it have came out the best in a lot of ways.   They are getting other people's votes but then they are making people pay for their votes essentially.
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@xubrnt ·
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@xubrnt ·
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