When I rent out my cards why do I not have the "right to refuse service?" The same way businesses have the right to refuse service in the real world. 
Give me the option "Do not rent to accounts with less than X amount of staked SPS."

Give me that right and option if you want to be all "free market and decentralized."

I feel like the team has specifically addressed that they won't do this.  Is there some reason why we think a DAO proposal would change their approach?

Not saying it's a bad idea - just wondering how this kind of proposal would impact the team and administration of the game.

Not voting for this. 

I'd sign on a "I don't like bots" statement but not on a change of TOS unless the guidelines/policies are clear. 

TBF, the statement "I don't like bots" doesn't do much, but that is basically the same as this proposal (esp considering that the DAO can't and shouldn't be allowed to change the Splinterlands TOS)

My worry if this is implemented is that bots will hide in the shadows rather than be up-front. Right now there is an open discord for most of the mainstream bots. There is discussion for their pricing model, where and when they work, broadly speaking how well they work etc.

If you make it against ToS, regardless of the eventual punishment, it will push bots to be more secretive. So you'll 1) restrict a free market currently available to all and 2) make it *harder* to see what bots are up to and who is botting. 

I suppose the best analogy is making drugs or prostitution illegal. Yes, it happens less when it's illegal, but 1) it's hard to estimate how much it actually happens 2) you lose revenue because it's all done under the table 3) it's hard to actually police because it's being hidden from prying eyes.

To me, the best answer to bots is to make bots unprofitable. I think the community has done really well to that end in the past few months (e.g., pushing rewards to higher leagues, removing RP from ghost cards, limiting RP from low-BCX cards). Soul-bound reward cards will do that even more. I think the better use of proposals and mental energy would be to develop systems that reward players more than bots. Someone mentioned KYC; I think that's a good idea (even if most crypto people are ideologically opposed to it).  I'll keep thinking of ideas along this line, because I want to see bot farms gone.

bad idea still bc then its used to ban ppl freeze assets hell no.  If this is remotel yclose ill need to seriously buy sps and get amassive stake lol to make sure its no

i am also against bots, but i doubt that the proposal will change much, especially this method bears the risk that innocent people will be banned. i remember when worldofwarcraft automated this process. if you were too good in the arena, the opponents simply reported me as botting and the system automatically banned at a certain number of reports. that sucked and completely took the fun out of arena for me! that's why i think kyc is a better method, for example each person is only allowed to participate in ranking with a maximum of 5 accounts, that way you would at least curb the botfarms for now.

but i still vote for it. just on principle to show that bots have to go!

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This proposal is weak bots are a problem but this won't be that easy to handle Agree with Yabap :) Well anyways it was due to be a proposal haha

If I wanted to bot nerf though I propose no ghost cards after a period now with soulbounds we can do that may leave a few players who don't play in the lurch but it also makes it more difficult to bot with just a limited set of soulbounds so in the grand sum of things bots will rent more and need to have cards and recirculate some assets to earn more assets.

Note this should be implemented ASAP before bots own all the soulbounds they need and have less incentive to rent.

Similar to our previous reward card case and problem.

Oh boy, this proposal is a real doozy! I mean, how can we even be sure if the poster themselves is a bot? It's hard to know these days! If they are a bot, they are doing a pretty good job at trying to fool us humans.

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Proposing botting is against TOS without explaining how to identify bots is a non-starter for me. I'm not going to start the foundation for a witch hunt without clear guidelines on this.