will could tell that the human nature is selfish and individualistic, but is a part of the society not all.

I didn't see it as a fight between large SP holders and 'normal users'. 

That was a flat out debate with good points made on both sides. I didn't get the sense that @ned wanted to make it 'more fair', thats impossibly subjective... the goal was in the headline and that is increasing demand in SP and Steem due to the constant price decline and lack of volume to pick it up. 

I also disagree with your assessment of 'human wickedness' by default, so 'why bother'? If you incentivize good behavior, as the rest of the platform does, good things come and overpower negatives. 

As of right now, there is __no incentive to remain powered up__ and THAT was the core of the debate that I read through. Particularly between @smooth and @ats-david.

Edit - is that image at the end solely there to be provocative? I don't understand the context and think you're going to alter the comments of your readers with that one image. As I was scrolling down, I saw the tophat and thought "ah fuck... the evil capitalist meme" ... then I scrolled a bit more and thought it was Donald Duck in a tophat... then I saw what it actually was and said "wtf was the point of that?"

Thanks for the post ideas and issue you bring up.

I would like to point out, our nature is both good and evil, so to polarize the argument that our human nature is the problem, is not exactly accurate. 

The current condition of humanity is the issue, not our nature. If you want to use the nature as a scapegoat argument, it can be applied to every single thing wrong and then we get nowhere. 

Our current condition, to favor money, be obsessed with money, is the conditioning in society and media to influence this, as well as the scarcity and needs for economic survivability. They way people think and view money, is a result of the condition of the way we live. Not the nature in humanity to blame.

I wrote  a post to try to get people to focus less on the money, and instead understand how [Steemit will success if we want it to success](https://steemit.com/steemit/@krnel/steemit-succeeds-if-we-make-it-succeed), if not it will fail. To focus on money is the issue people are conditioned into living by and are choosing to continue to live by. 

Take care. Peace.

>human nature is wicked by nature and we can't expect this community to be any different.

Nothing much to add . Well said!

I also thought the point of Ned's changes was to slow the drop in the price of steem and sbd. If you look at a chart for either one, you'll see a race to the bottom.  And if you look at steemdown, you'll see the whales who are powering down and selling.  To be fair, I transferred out the SBD I made on some of my posts.  

The consistent price drop and lack of large money coming in to support and turn around the price is the real issue.  It's possible that a more equitable rewards system would not only attract new users, but keep them here. I don't know if it's too late.

I don't think any reasonable person would object to whales getting more of a return, because they were early adopters. But if there are people with a lot of SP appearing to create fake accounts and boosting them with upvotes and others jumping on the same people's posts because they know they can build a nice curation reward for themselves, I wouldn't be surprised to see the attrition rate in membership increase. If good writers aren't rewarded, they'll leave. Why stay?  It's probably a moot point though.  Looking at the charts, it's hard to see how steemit can continue to pay rewards to anyone.

This is from someone who really likes the idea of steemit and hopes it somehow does survive as a better steemit.

I thought it was very fun to see smooth's responses, he made a few really good points that actually influenced what i now think of the proposed changes compared to my initial reaction.

The rest is sadly true...

Adding money to the equation is precisely why Steemit will work. Also, don't think about it as fighting for the money. That implies a zero-sum game where there is a limited supply of money and taking some of the pie leaves less for everyone else. This Steeming pie is one we can all get our hands in, and when we do, it actually creates more for others. 

“It’s true: greed has had a very bad press. I frankly don’t see anything wrong with greed. I think that the people who are always attacking greed would be more consistent with their position if they refused their next salary increase. I don’t see even the most Left-Wing scholar in this country scornfully burning his salary check. In other words, "greed" simply means that you are trying to relieve the nature given scarcity that man was born with. Greed will continue until the Garden of Eden arrives, when everything is superabundant, and we don’t have to worry about economics at all. We haven’t, of course, reached that point yet; we haven’t reached the point where everybody is burning his salary increases, or salary checks in general.” - Murray Rothbard

Vote in steemit

As the platform gets older, the more immutable the site will get. As new updates are harder and harder to pass trough. The controvercy we have now is little to none compared to that what we're going to have in the future.