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Plans for Basic Income with Verification on Steem by clayop

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Plans for Basic Income with Verification on Steem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8F8bh4VamE

### Background

Steem is a great platform but still is experiencing user-base problem as well as reward leaks with anonymity. An ideal solution is fixing all in decentralized ways but it has been failing since the beginning of Steem, such as whale's reward domination, collusive reward voting, vote bidding, etc. Given these problems, many 'real' users were disappointed and left Steem, and therefore the problems are exacerbated.

Proof-of-Brain is the core value of Steem. So it is very important to attract real human with brain (until AI has human level intelligence, like in SF movies). A strong and simple way is giving all human users a little reward, the so-called basic income without any conditions but liveness. Basic income has been experimented in few countries (e.g. South Africa, Swizerland) and presents meaningful positive impacts.

However, verifying human in decentralized way is hard to achieve at this moment. While decentralized solution is undergoing renovation, centralized solutions can help Steem to grow.


### Goal of the Project

This project aims to promote influx of new users by providing instant and free sign-up and distributing basic income.
Our short-term (6 months) goal is to increase 15,000 active human users. In the longer-term, we plan to attract a million users and transform the model to more decentralized ways.


### Details of Plan

Users can earn basic income in a simple way - verifying human identity. At the phase 1, this project is only based on Korea because the country has strong and reliable mobile ID verification. Existing users are also able to add their identity to the service. Once verified, there are benefits below:

- New users can signup instantly
- Each verified user is upvoted weekly with the same weight if they post
- There will be new filtration and reputation system based on human identity

Is there any disadvantage if not verified? No. We think anonymity and freedom of speech is still important. This verification and basic income system is just another layer of Steem. Also, we don't use personal information for any other purposes but verifying the uniquenss of identity.


### Finance

For signups, I will donate 21,000 STEEM (7,000 users). @steemhunt also helps with 6,000 AC(account creation) budget and @tasteem does with 3,900 AC.

For upvote, I will delegate 250,000~400,000 SP and now contacting Korean big stakeholders to participate.

Curation rewards are reinvested for signup and some events as well as operation costs that we try to minimize.



### Future Plan

I hope this experimental project will succeed and other countries can benchmark. If you know strong, reliable, cheap, and quick ways to verify identity, please contact me then we can further collaborate.


And please upvote for witness @clayop, @steemhunt, @snackplus, @tasteem who are contributing this project.
Thank you!
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@abitcoinskeptic · 
I will happily test phase 1. I know lots of people with Korean ID well who aren't members and a few who are.

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@acidyo · 
Awesome initiative, I'll gladly help with account creations if I can and delegation at a later time.
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@aggroed · 
Please let me know if there are ways I can help.
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@clayop · 
Sure thing! Thank you!
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@albertogm · 
Great plan @clayop! We have something similar going on in Venezuela and we are working to integrate it with STEEM. If you please, I would love to talk to you about it and see if we could work together through the @Provenezuela community and witness. You can reach on Discord as albertogm or email info@eosvenezuela.io 
Basic Income efforts make a HUGE different in Venezuela. 
Thank you for your time.
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@clayop · 
Great. I will contact soon!
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@arcange · 
Congratulations @clayop!
Your post was mentioned in the [Steem Hit Parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20190206) in the following categories:

* Comments - Ranked 8 with 62 comments
* Pending payout - Ranked 6 with $ 74,73
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@ats-david ·
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>At the phase 1, this project is only based on Korea...

>Each verified user is upvoted weekly with the same weight if they post

>For upvote, I will delegate 250,000~400,000 SP and now contacting Korean big stakeholders to participate.

Iโ€™m not sure what the purpose would be, since you also believe this:

>An ideal solution is fixing all in decentralized ways but it has been failing since the beginning of Steem, such as **_whale's reward domination, collusive reward voting,_** vote bidding, etc.

Arenโ€™t the results the same? This would involve whale influence and voting for a specific group of users for no other reason than the fact that they posted something. 

The shared reward pool would still experience โ€œreward leaks.โ€ It just wouldnโ€™t necessarily be to completely anonymous users, which is practically irrelevant regarding the actual effect. 

>Proof-of-Brain is the core value of Steem.

I understand your intent here but I donโ€™t see how your plan/project actually improves this โ€œcore value.โ€ Am I missing something? I only see proof-of-*identity.* The *brain* part is quite subjective...and not even necessary once identity is verified. 

Once a user is verified, they can simply create a bot to post daily and receive their votes. Then weโ€™re right back in the same position as far as quality, bots, and reward โ€œleakingโ€ is concerned.
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@clayop · 
Basic income farming using bots will be restricted (i.e., no more basic income) based on other human user's monitoring. The core value of this project is brining more real people into Steem who can create value units.

| The brain part is quite subjective.

It is. However, Identifying "human brain" from "algorithm" is objective, until AI's contents creation and conversation skills are developed to human-level.
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@ocrdu · 
*Ich bin ein Koreaner.*
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@ats-david · 
I am also a donut! :)
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@bitman007 · 
Wish too to use steem as reguoar income source : thanks for great start

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@blockchainstudio · 
This is so cool, thanks a lot! But just in case, you don't have to spend actual STEEM. Of course, I think you already plan to use AC RC prior to that, then I believe that's already enough. Realistically there are not many real people :( Save actual STEEM for other much more important uses, e.g., upvoting my posts :)
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@bobinson · 
Supporting account creation is a great move. This will increase the adoption.
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@conradsuperb · 
Basic income is a wonderful component needing to be worked into the Steem blockchain. Wonderful initiative reminding me a lot of what SBI is trying to do for the ecosystem as a whole ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿผ

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@darkflame · 
How can existing users complete human verification? User 50,418 here ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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@denmarkguy · 
This is definitely a very worthy idea @clayop; I will be interested in seeing how it develops. 

I believe one of the future scenarios for Basic Income is that we can't necessarily count on a "livable income" deriving from a *single* source, but if the target users had access to multiple small income streams from a variety of sources, it may add up to what is needed to create some security for people.
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@donkeypong · 
Great to see you going forward with this!
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@ericet · 
This is really great project! Hope you can succeed with this initiative and we can learn from this project to help onboard new users.
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@fanisk · 
Y para Colombia :'(
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@farizal · 
How about using thumbprint data? Just the data, no need to know the name or anything. Guess that can do, thumbprint is unique for each person, no need to know any other information if the sole purpose was just to have one unique id.

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@clayop · 
This is a best and ideal solution! Unfortunately, this is hard to convey at this moment, but I am pursuing towards biometric verification :)
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@farizal · 
For the mean time go for something already there and develop more afterwards. Just my 20cents. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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@luegenbaron · 
Very interesting idea!

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@firepower · 
Excellent initiative @clayop. Kudos!
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@followbtcnews · 
Great initiative,please let me know if I can help in anyway.

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@foozilla · 
Perfect, i want this concept to be realized
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@gank ·
$0.48
Great concept.
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@guysellars · 
This wii be something to watch.  Basic income concepts are gathering Steem in several social venues.  Solving verification will be a major game changer.
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$0.00
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@honoru · 
Support!  That is a good project for newbies.
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@improv ·
$0.05
Can't wait until you add support for the U.S.! I'm a big fan of UBI as a concept and know quite a few folks in my community who would do much better with some basic level of support.

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@jeanlucsr · 
Cool initiative! If help is needed with identifying real users, I'll gladly help. #lobi

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@kaminchan · 
I donโ€™t think this is a good idea! It will not solve your real problems.  You are missing the causes of why people left the platform!  There is no equality here! Itโ€™s a hierarchical and a bit like the old feudal system!  Identity!? For solving what problems?!
  

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@kat0bonheur · 
That is awesome
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@ketcom · 
Great idea and it will be awesome if implemented. I am just wondering though, we already have Steem Basic Income (SBI) will the Basic Income not bring in confusing members as to which is which?

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@clayop · 
Steem Basic Income is a great project but not guarantee 100% human-based. The present project aims not only to distribute some rewards but also to attract human users with quick sign-up. Thanks for your input!
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@ketcom · 
You are welcome.
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@ecoinstant · 
SBI is unique, and this project is very different.  Its really just a branding issue, but a distinctive logo should help.
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@ketcom · 
KK, let's hope so. Thanks.

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@leftbank ·
$0.07
Good initiative! Good luck!

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@lordneroo · 
Wonderful idea! Thanks for your efforts!
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@lovecharles2004 · 
Good project. Kudos
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@lukestokes · 
I'm certainly curious about this. One of my first posts on Steemit was about how <a href="https://steemit.com/economics/@lukestokes/does-the-world-need-a-universal-basic-income-could-steem-power-it">Steem might power a basic income</a>. I also highlighted some of Dan's posts here: <a href="https://steemit.com/basicincome/@lukestokes/outside-the-tribal-meme-space-ubi-for-non-socialists">Outside the Tribal Meme Space: UBI for Non-Socialists</a>, and I find his latest thoughts on this quite fascinating: <a href="https://medium.com/@bytemaster/universal-resource-inheritance-505e7ca4d048">Universal Resource Inheritance</a>.

KYC type stuff is certainly a challenge. I've put some thoughts into that here <a href="https://steemit.com/life/@lukestokes/privacy-identity-and-human-flourishing">Privacy, Identity, and Human Flourishing</a> and again, Dan has some interesting ideas as well: <a href="https://steemit.com/eos/@dan/does-freedom-require-radical-transparency-or-radical-privacy">Does Freedom Require Radical Transparency or Radical Privacy?</a>

I don't know what the answer is, but I do think at some point in the future we'll need it.
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@madalchemist · 
I want to get on steem welfare too
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@mayb · 
Hey @clayop,

I am intrigued! I love and support this idea! I once worked for a German lottery for basic income and have some insights on this topic. If you're looking for any kind of support, please feel free to reach out to me!
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@mayb · 
oh, and I am here because of the amazing work of @crypto.piotr. :) 
<3
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@clayop · 
Thanks! :D
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@mikefromtheuk · 
You could use Yoti for ID verification.
https://www.yoti.com/

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@mindtrap · 
Excellent initiative. I would also like to help if you need anything
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@modelcoinmc · 
That is some serious SP and STEEM fronted for the onboarding effort!
I wish you success. 
<center>and...</center>
<center>![worthy.gif](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmY4xKCZh3LbL2pV85jk5tBWetQtuLB1Q5woSEkLx9t4Az/worthy.gif)</center>
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@novacadian · 
My thought has long been that an anonymous decentralized [CAPCHA](https://steemit.com/steem/@novacadian/a-decentralized-capcha-annonymous-proof-of-brain-verification) system  would be a great tool for the blockchain and a breath of life for Proof of Brain.
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@ocupation · 
Great initiative man, especially when it comes to on boarding new people. Will follow this one closely :)

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@oldtimer ·
$0.02
What's your plan to address the difference between countries?
$1 upvote in USA or Venezuela has a whole different meaning.
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@clayop · 
We are all Steemians :)
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@oldtimer · 
True.
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@pennsif · 
This post has been included in the latest edition of  [**SoS Daily News**](https://steemit.com/steem/@pennsif/sosdailynewsnewsaboutthestateofsteem5february2019-8cyo8edxvi) - a digest of all you need to know about the State of Steem.

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@rebeccabe · 
Thanks for doing this. :)
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@stackin · 
This seems very interesting, will be looking forward to it! ๐Ÿ˜€

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@sumit1998 · 
Sir you can start this in India to.
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@themadcurator ·
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@vndragon · 
is not easy to earn money :(
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@wakeupkitty · 
So long story short. It is only for Korea? How about those who walked out of Steem? They were from Korea as well?

Might be a basic income to start with will make it easier to be/start here, but how do you guarantee those people stay?

Btw the tests with a basic income in several countries turned out negative.

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@mlessmore · 
Hi!, just 8 people own half the world's wealth. Be the one to start freeing yourself and your friends from the monetary dictatorship by 1) Joining and expanding Free Collaboration Networks and 2) Raising awareness about the solutions. Let's get this message to go viral! Your part is crucial, the whole world thanks you! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vilnZIJsKZTAxEOm-zyVBT7NeVlFbmomZXezHtQsZi4/edit #RBGEsolutions #RBGE #RBE #GiftEconomy
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@yasu24 · (edited)
I approved [@clayop](https://steemit.com/@clayop) [@steemhunt](https://steemit.com/@steemhunt) [@snackplus](https://steemit.com/@snackplus) [@tasteem](https://steemit.com/@tasteem) as witness.

Resteemed this arrived.

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@clayop · 
Thanks a lot!
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@zilustras · 
I've been thinking about this idea for a while, but as long as my knowledge about blockchain is extremely superficial, I was hoping some smart people could invent it. Luckily you are smart people.
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