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Whoever is front-running my comment section is a genius πŸ˜‰ by cryptoctopus

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· @cryptoctopus ·
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Whoever is front-running my comment section is a genius πŸ˜‰
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Some people may have caught on that I'm working on making my comment section as engaging as possible. It's pretty hard to get around to reply/upvote 100 comments+ but I'm setting things up to be able to do so in the future.

One thing I don't do anymore is sporadically upvote comments shortly after I publish my article. I have fallen prey, like many people, to constantly refresh my article to know how much $ it made and what people are saying about it.

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So I have stopped doing that. It's really an unproductive activity.

## It's profitable for me to upvote the comment section of my blog

One thing many people might not know is that when I upvote your comment under my post, even if it's only a $1(about 8%), I'm making a curation reward on the upvote I'm making (especially if I'm the only one voting). 

To maximize my profits, I must wait past the 30 minutes treshold. That's why I usually wait until the next day to go over last days post...so that I can do that in batch.

**But someone caught onto that and started frontrunning my comment section by voting the best comments.** 

### You, sir, are a genius. 

Since the amount of competition on comments upvote is very low, he is in some way guaranteed to make maximum rewards since he/she knows I will be upvoting afterward (sometimes 20hours later). 

That person also provide a great service to me. There is a lot of garbage comments that try to take advantage of the fact that I'm upvoting the comment section. By having that person upvoting the best stuff, it helps me sift through the garbage faster. 

# Conclusion

Don't hesitate to front run my comment section. I'll be happy to upvote behind you and maybe even get curious enough to follow your blog πŸ˜‰
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@aboutyourbiz ·
Very clever! And even though this post β€œlets the cat out of the bag” few will do it anyway
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@adnanrabbani ·
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Excellent post my friend, i agree with your thoughts and also like to mentioned that front-running comments also creates a win win situation both for the commentator's and curators as well and i see many steemians are just love to curate the posts instead of creating the content and as now you officially gave permission to curate the good comments i hope now we surely see more genius curator's will take benefit from this opportunity and should earn handsome amount of steem by up voting comments too, wishing you all the best for all of your future endeavors! my friend, Stay blessed
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@cryptoctopus ·
Well, a little comment here and a little comment there...you can gain quite a bit of steem overtime.
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@mikepm74 ·
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Curating is hard work!  So whenever we have a chance to get a little extra by upvoting good comments should be taken advantage of for sure.  Plus rewarding comments lets people know that we found value in what they had to say.  

Cleverer and Cleverer....
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@aftabkhan10 ·
Well I guess yeah that is the right thing to do, I can't stop my self from replying to a good comment.
It also gives you a chance to interact.
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@arshi ·
Wel..............l I guess yeah that is the right thing to do, I can't stop my self from replying to a good comment.
It also gives you a chance
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@asolopreneur ·
Our followers is the best asset we have on world wide web, that's why we should try to engage our audience. It's hard to reply each and every comment but we can reply to comments which are really contributing or enhancing our articles. 

There are many commenters who really adds value to our blog with their knowledgeable comments. 

I love to comment on blogs because that's my way of appreciating their hardwork.

Commenting also helps to increase our followers. Isn't it @cryptoctopus?
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@bayeco06 ·
profitable,sensible,sustainable... hello, W.Buffet of steemit
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@bitgeek ·
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Congratulations @cryptoctopus, this post is the sixth most rewarded post (based on pending payouts) in the last 12 hours written by a Superhero or Legend account holder (accounts hold greater than 100 Mega Vests). The total number of posts by Superhero and Legend account holders during this period was 33 and the total pending payments to posts in these categories was $1280.52. To see the full list of highest paid posts across all accounts categories, [click here](www.steemit.com/steemit/@bitgeek/payout-stats-report-for-1st-december-2017--part-i). 

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@blazing ·
that's great to engage with the commenters :) and help them along
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@bloomberg215 ·
This is great initiative from you, so you can help a "little" guys. Often times, the little guys are overlooked and it is nice to see that there is still people who care about them.
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@builderofcastles ·
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I always upvote my commenters.  But then again, I have very few commenters, and so extra care I spend.

But, but, now that we have a linear voting algorithm, I can move a comment into getting at least 2&cent; and thus, they get money, and I get a curation.
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@cryptoctopus ·
Keep doing it. It's worth it. 😊
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@cloudspyder ·
That would be the greatest things I ever heard here on steemit.  Steemians really engage in every post you made.
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@clweeks ·
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It's interesting that at your scale of operation, you can write something like this and incentivize more of us to do that, which (I think) is a win for everyone involved. Lower-value people can't, but then they (we) don't have so many people following them and posting garbage comments -- it's easy to weed through the two or five that I might get. 

I'm curious, how often do you flag/downvote something? (How much upside does that practice have?)
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@cryptoctopus ·
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It's a way to raise people with me. As they gain more SP, their vote are worth more for me...up and up we go together.
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@steemmatt · (edited)
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**No one is "lower-value people".**

It really sets me off to see that mindset and see the word garbage in the same sentence.  

Lower value content is the humane way to consider this and what will make the community more collaborative in the long run.  We are all valuable people.  Some just don't have the means, tools, know-how or experience to provide better value right now.
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@clweeks ·
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I suppose, to be more precise, I could have said "lower-power accounts" but I guess I assumed wrongly that it would  be obvious what I meant. And it is simply reality, that in the context of Steem's currencies, cryptoctopus is about 1000 times more *valuable* than I am. That is some sort of indication our comparative histories here, but isn't a reasonable measure of average current post value. So in the sense that you want to abstract "value" away from these constructs, I don't think "lower value content" is really that great, and certainly not what I was talking about.

Also, "Brilliant insight, you should upvote and follow me" seems to be widely regarded as a *garbage* comment. Is that not your impression?
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@connecteconomy ·
$1.62
Hm... do comments work exactly like posts in term of payouts? I never considered that one could have comment-upvoting-strategy as well :) 
I wonder if people know that, because many do not upvote comments to their posts. I always do. It's just a kind thing to do, I think, but I never saw it in a strategic way before.
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@cryptoctopus ·
There is more to this game than meets the eye 😊
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@mikepm74 ·
It's really interesting how intricate all of the ins and outs are isn't it?

I never really thought beyond giving my readers and commenters a reward for making a coherent response to my post!  But there's money in it for me to?  Well heck!  Now it's a win-win!

hahaha
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@connecteconomy ·
Yes... I always really appreciate it when someone takes the time to read my stuff and leave a reply. So I always upvote, but mostly with just 10% because I use it more like a LIKE button and to let them know "I've seen your response, thank you!" 

Now if I start getting concerned how much *I* am making from upvoting comments... then I will really have to start managing my voting power... I'm not sure if my brain wants to do all that math, though...
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@deyu ·
We need more people like you , thanks for explications and for the helpful photos .
Have a nice evening
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@didarulselim ·
you are a nice person, your all post I liked, all people like you  
@followed and upvoted for you
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@droucil ·
$1.59
You have to wait 30 minutes for the max curation rewards on comments? Are you sure about that? Cause I've asked around about this previously, and as far as I know this restriction doesn't count on comments.
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@cryptoctopus ·
there is no distinction in the code between posts and comments. They are all posts.
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@droucil · (edited)
U have any sources that proof this? The thing is, looking around for an actual statement on how comment curation rewards work, there is barely anything to find about it...
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@elshadr ·
$0.02
I like the way you appreciate the comments of your followers, for me it does not matter if the post owner does not upvote my comments and I will continue to comment on every good post I like
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@khaleelkazi ·
That's great for the steem community, please continue to share your thoughts! :)
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@eqko ·
That guy is inderdaad genius, frontrunning the comments. I wish
 * it was my idea
 * I had time to do that (you’ll get this once the little one had arrived)

Interesting that you should post about it and *up-top* for acknowledging someones brilliant idea where others might see a nuisance.
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@fingolfin ·
I try to upvote anyone who comments on any of my posts yet there still seems to be a lack of engagement. More voting power for me I suppose :)
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@fknmayhem ·
To be honest, while you just started the next _big thing in curation_, I would rather be the one who adds value and maybe even gets an upvote. 

Commenting is both a good mind exercise and can most definitely add value.
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@gniksivart ·
$1.35
Haha if only I could get esteem comments working again I'd save my roughly $.20 esteem upvote you get once a day for your post to make it closer to the top of your comment section. I wish I could claim to be the smart person who figured this out, but  alast it wasn't me.
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@otemzi ·
lol actually thinking the same thing but am on mobile and I do get the upvote daily and I just received it now, lol first on the list going to upvote and take your post upward so that you too can enjoy this lol
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@greenbeans ·
$0.13
If you don't read or upvote comments made on your own post then you are NOT engaging your fans or audience.  Authors should realize this.................
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@mikepm74 ·
This is very well said!  Good point!  It's all about the engagement!
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@gregory-f ·
$2.28
Brilliant! By acknowledging the genius of the one who was frontrunning your comment upvoting you have greatly increased the engagement of your comment section and consequently the rewards of doing so. Now your comment section looks a lot more like the way comments did back a year and a half ago when there was much less spam and much more interaction. If more whales (and everyone else too) would take the time to reward those who post thoughtful comments, maybe the comment spammers would learn and become productive Steemians instead of trying to grab a quick penny or two.
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@cryptoctopus ·
Thanks. You win the top spot of my comment section with that comment 😊
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@somethingsea · (edited)
$0.23
Or maybe, don't use whales and just interact on the site yourself, like you would Facebook or YouTube? Am I missing something here? Just do what you'd normally do.
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@hilltop ·
I'm not shocked though. When you grow and progress in life, you out most things. You have  out grown most of the things you said you no longer do. 
Even though I know it is unproductive to keep freshing post periodiacally to see upvotes and comments. 
I still fresh my post to see how comments and upvotes, and I don't intend to stop now, I would probable stop when I grow to be like you, when I get too busy with engagements.
I admire your modus operandi and will get their one day.
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@hrhridoy ·
thanks for the  info and awesome opportunity.
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@iwant ·
Amount of competition on comments up vote is   low
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@joeshaver ·
Hahaha! That's really clever. I'm a new user still trying to figure out all the ins and outs of this thing. It seems there's more to it than meets the eye.
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@journeyoflife ·
At least you get back to us , after your post yesterday the number of comments I saw I didn’t think you’d get to me to just leave it but you actually replied the next day I liked that
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@julstamban ·
$0.07
hahaha @cryptoctopus actually I am doing that on other generous comment upvoter like you and Ive been doing this for two months now but to be honest I am not the culprit that frontrunning your comment's upvotes because I just followed you 2 weeks ago because of utopian.
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@kaw ·
yeah, this is one of the most intelligent things I have seen someone do on steemit gg.
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@khaleelkazi ·
Your pointing out of this fact is both genius and honorably transparent. Your comment section is going to get a lot more upvotes and a lot more activity from this, as I can see is already happening. Well played friend. Well played.
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@max1994 ·
Great post thanks for sharing
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@mikepm74 ·
$1.77
Sneaky genius!  And I believe that you are definitely on to something here.  I never really thought about maximizing the curation rewards in my own comments.  I usually give a response and an upvote to any good comments on my posts.  I'm laying about $0.40 cents per comment in rewards to people who comment on my stuff, so not as nice as yours, but I'm also usually doing it inside of the 30 minute window, so I guess I am not getting the curation I could be.

There's a lesson to take home from this.  Very interesting.  And also interesting about the comment front running.  Weeding good stuff to the top with other people's votes doesn't hurt either!
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@cryptoctopus · (edited)
As your top commenters make $ by making comments and curating, they in turn bring more $ with their votes over time. It's a virtuous cycle. 😊
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@mikepm74 ·
It's the Circle of Steem.... and it rules us alllllll.....

LOL

Creating users with more weight who are loyal to your "brand" is a terrific policy!  You should have a whale class on how to make this happen all around the blockchain.  hahaha
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@mindhunter07 ·
nice post man
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@nomita ·
wow,,,,that's a great post.....
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@oodeyaa ·
$0.28
Dear @cryptoctopus your curiosity about trending comment is great as engagement with curators and readers is beneficial and jeast of the growth of Steemit, I think.
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@otemzi · (edited)
$1.28
lol probably me too will start upvoting your comments and see if my 130SP can get me a good curation reward after you go on a upvoting spring by the way you said you normally upvote after a day so by the time of making this comment I would still have 20hrs+ to upvote and get those curration reward ~~sweet~~
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@cryptoctopus ·
It's a good game to play :-)
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@oyvindsabo ·
$1.44
But doesn't Steemit understand that you upvote anything, thus making your votes less credible? If this is not the case, it's an awesome opportunity which should be exploited for sure, but in the long run, I think it will create a fake community. Still, I will upvote all the comments, lol.
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@cryptoctopus ·
I'm not sure I understand what you are talking about. People pre-curate my comment section for a profit, how is that creating a fake community?
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@playfulfoodie ·
$1.80
Haha oh my gosh, that's so smart! Also, I think it's awesome that you upvote comments. I do it aswell, though usually not really high. I think I should up the percentages a bit to make sure everyone atleast gets a small reward. Especially my regulars! Thanks for making me think :-)
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@cryptoctopus ·
$0.03
That's what I am here for 😊
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@mikepm74 ·
$1.38
I think it pays off to upvote commenters!  It is like incentivising brand loyalty.  

As we browse through our feed and recognize the people who have rewarded us for engaging in their comments, we are more likely to click in and read since we know if we come up with an intelligent response there may be a decent comment upvote in it!
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@cryptoctopus · (edited)
It does pay off...if I can raise the SP of my followers, they will overtime bring more upvote my way. It's all a vertue cycle.
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@playfulfoodie ·
Exactly! It's a win-win situation :D
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@somethingsea ·
Why are you defending upvoting comments? 
Why do you think the functionality exists? 
Why do people on here think people need motiviation to express whether they like a post?
Is the design of steemit really that anti-human interaction that people need motivation to do what they'd normally do anyway without the profit, like on Facebook?
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@otemzi ·
$1.65
lol that would be much appreciated ma, now I got two users I can earn from lol, just joking love your post about gaming and daily activities also how you interact with your users via the comment box, steemit really needs more users like you
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@khaleelkazi ·
this made me smile :)
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@playfulfoodie ·
Aww that's so sweet of you to say! :D
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@princewahaj ·
Completely agreed with you. 

If I may add something, it's actually a win-win situation for both, commenter and voter. Not only the votes on comments bring curation rewards for the author, the author also gains the confidence of readers because the know that if they'd make a productive comment after reading the post, they are going to be rewarded.

In other words, supporting your readers means much more visibility and followings. And in the world of Steemit, it means more money, yeah!
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@rahulsaini ·
You nailed it @cryptoctopus
Front-runner are genius, a nice title too.
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@rexcrypto ·
That is genius on both sides. The front runner for recognising the pattern and you for creating a post explaining and rewarding the behaviour. 
Win-win from a theoretical perspective but also likely to have a network effect with fellow steemians! Thanks for sharing.
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@samymubarraq ·
Awesome bro.. Thanks for sharing.. 😎
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@shahin24 ·
you always give our gd post i like dear
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@singhrajat ·
$1.67
May be it's 1st time I am commenting here, but really great to know that even the comment section is getting so much attention now a days, it will surely positively affect platform, thnx to your helping hand to make it possible and bringing this concern in light that added one more post in your post list ☺
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@cryptoctopus ·
I hope you will be back 😊 I'll keep upvoting your comments when they are good.
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@khaleelkazi ·
Comments are everything imo. Steem is one of the best places to read comments. <i>Most</i> people are very positive unlike many other platforms.
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@somethingsea ·
Here's an idea - the issue and problem with whales is self-created and so the mechanisms for control against that goes away with the elimination of whales. All you need is a matrix system like YouTube uses (except, that actually functions properly for promotions) to determine what is the most popular. 

Whales are the opposite of emergent engagment and enjoyment. 

You're literally having bots upvote your posts. 
That's stupid in terms of stability. 

It's why there are so damn many posts about whales, rather than the other content the creators here, such as yourself or myself, are making. 

Stop relying on automation where human interaction is what you're wanting, @steemit.
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@surpassinggoogle ·
My comment section is front-run too by two or three accounts that specialize on comment curation and regardless, it's a positive.
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@syedumair ·
Who is that person btw?
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@team101 ·
Interesting view.  I believe that interaction is what underlines Steemit as being a social network making good comments about as important as great content.
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@teamsteem ·
$1.50
> I must wait past the 30 minutes treshold.

I'm not sure there's a 30 minutes treshold on comments.
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@cryptoctopus ·
From my understanding, all types of posts are treated equal (same curation rule across the board)
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@thecryptotrader ·
$0.67
There are frontrunners also on comment lol, didn't know ahha
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@theguruasia ·
$1.34
@cryptoctopus,
"Don't hesitate to front run my comment section. I'll be happy to upvote behind you and maybe even get curious enough to follow your blog"

I like what you are doing! And by using 8% you can make a decent curation reward of 2% as well! Nice idea friend!

Cheers~
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@trumpman · (edited)
$1.35
thinking out of the box at its best :D @grandpere was it you?
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@cryptoctopus ·
nope. It wasn't my dad ;-P
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@trumpman ·
Hehe,  i  had a look at your top comments in the previous post and he appeared in all of them so I took a guess. Wish I could bring my father here too, too bad he doesn't even know to turn the PC on :(
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@valth ·
By announcing this you might end up getting even more frontrunners! Anyone who would want to make some easy money could copy the upvotes of the frontrunner and get a share of the profit, and you end up getting a very interactive comment section, @cryptoctopus!
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@joeshaver ·
My thoughts exactly!
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@wameyo ·
Awesome post. I could say that working smart even here on steemit does pay.
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@wovlou ·
Your great work got a helping hand, and when your vote is worth something you need to be careful about whom your UpVoteing, appreciate your helper, is he also Charging you something for this, just eager to know πŸ˜€
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@yasirgawad ·
hahahahahahaha 
very smart and good work by both of you
yeah you are dam right
people are taking the advantage of your up voting comment activity
but the fellow is doing the best jOb
at the end i said that good post
keep doing this on
thank you for your time and support
God Bless us all!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you
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