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Behold the Power of Engagement! But That's not All... by curatorcat.leo

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Behold the Power of Engagement! But That's not All...
Unless you've been living under a rock, it's a good bet that you've heard that *"things are really happening"* at LeoFinance.

At the moment, the LeoFinance community is thriving in large part because of the *engagement level* of the community, which reminds me a lot of the engagement levels people experienced on the old Steem(it) platform in the second half of 2017. 

There's little doubt that communities *thrive* on engagement. But let's take a deeper look, starting with the nature of *content creation* on the web.

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## *You Need "Creators" AND "Consumers!"*

A common marketing strategy — and this extends well *beyond* just blockchain/crypto social venues — of web venues that offer *rewards* is to emphasize that people can get *paid* for their content. 

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The often overlooked part of that equation is that it's ultimately an unsustainable approach unless you also have content *consumers.* Perhaps this points a little bit to the issue we're seeing on Hive proper... there's endless *creation* but not very much *consuming.*

It's easy to make the argument that people like to *get paid* for their but there's more to it than that: Most content creators you'll ask are also motivated by knowing that their articles are *read and appreciated* by an engaged audience.

It's a pretty safe bet to say that there are about 600 *million* blogs on the web... *BUT* only a little over 30 million — 5% are *active.* A very large percentage of the *inactive* blogs end up that way because their owners got the sense that they were offering a message... and *NOBODY WAS READING IT!* So they threw in the towel and quit, after 3, 11, 23 posts or whatever.

The power of the *intangible* reward of simply knowing that *"someone read and liked my post!"* is often underestimated, *particularly* in terms of its importance in *retaining* an active blogger in the long term.

Hence the importance of meaningful comments on web content... and why I am really excited about what's happening with LeoFinance! 

## *With LeoFinance, That's not All!*

Whereas rewards and engagement go a long way, they do not represent the be-all, end-all answer to anything.

One of the other things LeoFinance is getting right is the continuous development and updates that creates the sense of *"things happening."* Add to that having a genuine focus and roadmap — presented with a good degree of transparency — and you have another key element in making a venue *"sticky."*

Yes, *sticky* is a scientific term!

Let's face it, we all like to be part of something that feels like it is *alive* and *going places.* And when improvements and new features are continuously presented, it's part of what drives *brand loyalty.* We might not admit it *openly,* but we want to stick around to be part of what happens *next.*

In some ways, that was a significant part of the decline of old Steem... there was this sense of *stagnation,* like nothing was ever going to happen to move the community *forward.*

![CC0192ComputerMouse.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xyKBQqe.jpg)
*Yes Virginia, this blog really DOES contain a cat...*

## *All it Takes is WORK... and More Work...*

I only created this account some seven weeks ago, as an *"alt"* to my primary account. I actually was never planning to create top level posts; this was simply an effort to contribute to *engagement.*

SteemLeo — as it was called back then — was the *second "SCOT Tribe"* I grew interested in and staked a few tokens in... and I have followed it ever since, because it *made sense* as a niche community. 

And that's the final point I wanted to make here, before I go back to my usual commenting pattern: You have to start with a good and meaningful idea, and then you have to constantly *WORK* it.

I have been part of web communities — and web community building — for over 20 years, and the common denominator for thriving communities is that you must start with a focused and meaningful core idea, and then you have to *work at it, every single day!* There are no *"vacations"* in community building... at least not until the community reaches *"critical mass"* where it becomes self-sustaining. And, trust me, that takes *thousands* of loyal regular contributors. 

As part of the Hive-Engine extended universe, I see a fair number of communities that *could* follow in the footsteps of LeoFinance. Sadly, many of them have never moved beyond the *"let's create a community and a token and see what happens"* stage... I am not wise as to *why,* but often the discovery of *just how much work* it is to build and grow something is the deterrent.

And that's why I find myself here on LeoFinance... and even shilling it with a post like this!

*CuratorCat out... 06 NOV 2020 21:48PST*
*All photos are my own*

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@chekohler ·
and the thing is we're still a well-kept secret so imagine the user base affects multiplying as the price runs up more people will take note, since its not on popular exchanges yet people don't know about it. 

I think as it grows it sucks more people in and those of us who are here also need to welcome them in and get them used to our way of life. 

Encourage the behaviour we already have here and the sky is the limit for this project

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@curatorcat.leo ·
I think the key there is the *"get them used to our way of life,"* because the tendency is for people to come running the moment something looks promising, and leave again if they don't get instant riches. OR they'll come in and try to "rape" the system. 

And yes, encouraging appropriate behavior matters... but we also need to be willing to *"carry a big stick"* when newcomers think this is just a cash grab.

=^..^=

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@chekohler ·
Oh don’t you worry about that I’m sure LEO stake h...
Oh don’t you worry about that I’m sure LEO stake holders aren’t going to allow that I’ve been keen to use my downvote I do use it sometimes but there are a few of these posts I let slide

I am quietly building my stake and I intend to use it to keep the platform the way we like it 

 
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@taskmaster4450le ·
Certainly token appreciation sets off FOMO and gets people interested.  Sadly, as we saw with much of the crypto world, those are people who tend to leave once the price stops moving.

That is why it is vital, in my opinion, to make this place thriving.  Ensure there is a strong community that is highly active and we stand a good chance of keeping some of the better people.

This is the network effect that we want.

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@chekohler ·
Well some of us need to hold the coins to be the bag holders to sell to those who want to come in and out when the price action seems appealing lol. I think HODL'ing and BUIDL'ing is boring its unsexy its not glamorous so only a few people tend to stick around
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@deadswitch ·
Engagement is the most reliable metric for the success of any platform. I know people who care more about comments them rewards and rightly so

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@curatorcat.leo ·
As a blogger, I know that comments *matter* because they tell me that whatever I am contributing is *interesting* enough that people chose to *engage.* Financial rewards only go so far...

=^..^=

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@deadswitch ·
Totally agree. It's the yardstick to measure by

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@hivebuzz ·
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@nonsowrites ·
Yesterday my post was amongst the curator's pick and I saw a level of engagement I haven't seen in a long while. That was refreshing. With such positive encouragement and engagement one would put in more effort in creating content.

Some times I spend considerable time creating content and it ends up getting no engagement or even upvote. It feels most time like I am gambling with my content, which should be the case. Here it seems everyone has a shut at the top spot if they put in work. Effort has been something the hive community has taken for granted for too long. We don't need to reward people for just showing up. Their effort towards engagement, content creation is equally as important. 


As you mentioned engagement plays a crucial part in sustaining an ecosystem like this and the leofinance have found a formula that works (for now). I don't feel the need to create content daily as engaging with other people's contents is equally as rewarding. Plus, there are a lot of interesting things/ideas to read here. I don't even bother to check my hive feeds anymore. 

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@curatorcat.leo ·
And that's an awesome testimonial to the fact that "it" is working, **@nonsowrites!** 

>We don't need to reward people for just showing up.

I agree with that, but not everyone sees it that way. Here on LeoFinance there's a significant emphasis on *"manual"* curation, posting and commenting. On Hive, there's a pretty large group of people who just want automated *investment returns.* Whereas I can *appreciate* that sentiment — on some level — it sort of flies on the face of the entire idea of having a *social* content site. 

I guess what will be interesting to see is whether or not LeoFinance can *"scale up"* and still make this work with 25,000 daily active users, or more. Right now, we're like a *"small town,"* but will becoming more like *"a city"* also bring big city problems? And will we be able to address them effectively?

=^..^=

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@taskmaster4450le ·
It is all a building process.  Put in the time and effort, AND STICK AROUND, and you will succeed.

That is what the top earners did.  It did not happen in the first 30 days or so.  For many, there is years of posting and engagement involved.

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@curatorcat.leo ·
Precisely right! It takes time, work and patience.

Unfortunately, it seems like the entire cryptosphere suffers from a bad case of *Instant Gratification Disease.* Maybe we can buck that trend, here...

=^..^=

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@phython ·
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We need everyone .. From creator,consumers, believers, shillers and so on.
then only ecosystem complete. 

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@curatorcat.leo ·
Indeed... as long as those people continue to be *legitimate supporters* of the community, in their own way.

=^..^=

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@test.tails ·
What we do not need is trolls and bullshit posters. They are starting to apear.

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@curatorcat.leo ·
Sadly, that is perhaps the single biggest *"landmine"* all promising communities face: We live in a world of greed and exploitation, and there will always be those who look at a project and see the potential for extracting the proverbial *"free lunch"* while caring not in the slightest about the community, itself.

You have to be ready to set your *idealistic* aside and recognize that these people *exist,* and they are basically out to *RIP OFF* the community, by whatever means they can find. 

=^..^=

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@phython ·
Appearance of "bullshit posters" means that platform is gaining traction. Unfortunately they can't be avoided. 

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@taskmaster4450le ·
Yes and the core is good about reporting them to Hive watchers.

Plus we need to do more to make it known which ones fall into that category.

Downvotes are likely to start coming from the larger accounts.

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@shortsegments ·
Agreed, the strength here lies in the diversity content creators, content consumers, people who buy miners and liquidity providers. They all have their role to play

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@curatorcat.leo ·
Exactly! And all of us — regardless of what "type" of user we may be — are responsible for participating in the *sustainability* of the community.

=^..^=

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@tbnfl4sun ·
This is the most important part of growing a community.
> You have to start with a good and meaningful idea, and then you have to constantly WORK it.

The work always keeps moving forward and the community keeps growing and staying interested in the platform.

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@curatorcat.leo ·
It's possibly what I admire *most* about this community... it's always *under development.*

There are a lot of quite interesting *"tribes"* in the Hive ecosystem, but a lot of them feel rather stale...

=^..^=

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@tbnfl4sun ·
I know what you mean, I have been reading news about finance on the internet for years, so this was a perfect fit for me. Most of the sites that I frequented stopped letting you leave comments and that was my favorite part to read. 

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