How Much Do Auto-Curation Accounts Make? (Insta-Upvotes After You Publish a Post) by daan

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steem · @daan · Mar 17 '19 (edited)

$4.08

How Much Do Auto-Curation Accounts Make? (Insta-Upvotes After You Publish a Post)

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Almost everyone who has ever published a post on the Steem blochchain has probably noticed that you receive a bunch of small upvotes a couple of minutes after your post goes up. These upvotes come from accounts that are running automatic curation bots, usually on specific tags.

Since they're voting before the 15 minute mark, they're actually losing most of their curation rewards to the author of the post. I was wondering how much they were actually earning from this type of behavior, the results surprised me to say the least.

<center>![Steem-curation-rewards](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmUxPohsHNxssYB8Bqn6naDoEkh9ooRwqzjzoqEdfpLZ9K/Steem-curation-rewards.png)</center><center>*Source: [Steem FAQ](https://steemit.com/faq.html#What_determines_how_much_of_the_curation_reward_goes_to_the_author_versus_curators)*</center>

Thanks to [Steemworld](https://steemworld.org) it's very easy to check how much these accounts are making on a daily basis. You first have to check which accounts are automatically upvoting your posts right after they've been published, then you check their accounts on Steemworld to see how much curation rewards they're reaping in.

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## Which accounts are running curation bots?

I'm going to take my latest post as an example, there I see that I've received around $0.05 worth of upvotes from many different accounts. All within less than 10 minutes after publishing my post.

<center>![steemworld-upvotes](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmNXdwqzSZTDPMQ8CLzVr5kZztV4AmCVhCyG5wXX86ejv5/steemworld-upvotes.png)</center>

Most of these accounts have their voting percentage set to less than 5%, with their upvotes being worth less than $0.02. Surely, they can't be making a lot in terms of curation rewards, right? Wrong! After checking out these account's Steemworld pages, I was absolutely flabbergasted to see that they're making more than 1 Steem per day, just from curation rewards. Some of these accounts don't even have 1000 SP!

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## @hdu's earnings with 710 SP

![hdu-earnings](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmWmvVmY2WcX5pTR9FQJqr2uSHM5jJysFTNfzzRpfa7qJ1/hdu-earnings.png)

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## @delabo's earnings with 6299 SP

![delabo-earnings](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmXpjgk638iPzrANModucB6PxXHPvK2tPHr81a7WtRACen/delabo-earnings.png)

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## @zugs's earnings with 1922 SP

![zuggs-earnings](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmcUruqSRpKb69qTDV4eyiCHnLYfHyrDYEN6pwufMcxH6u/zuggs-earnings.png)

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## @supu's earnings with 23025 SP

![supu-curation-rewards](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmUFP3G6XP8ijgAH3WrNArTCR98Xk16aB6uk5JKPQFA3cb/supu-curation-rewards.png)

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## Running Curation Bots

I was playing with the idea of setting up a new account, purely for getting curation rewards like the above accounts do. After some research, I found out that there's really no easy way to set something like this up. When I say easy, I mean point-and-click, scripts that automate these actions are fairly easy to find. With some basic knowledge of programming they're very easy to set up.

Some examples:

[Steem-FOSSbot-Voter](https://github.com/Steem-FOSSbot/steem-fossbot-voter)

[Steem-Tag-Bot](https://github.com/flemingfamilyfarm/Steem-Tag-Bot)

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## Reservations about auto-voting everything

While it might be very lucrative in terms of curation rewards to just upvote all content that's published under specific tags, this practice does go against the concept of proof-of-brain.

It's not really curating content, you're just upvoting everything to maximize curation rewards. This is why I ultimately decided against setting up my own curation bot on a different account.

The geek inside me finds these systems incredibly interesting to look at, so I don't mind writing about them. It's really up to your own moral compass, whether you want to engage in such practices. I have to admit that I was pretty amazed to see how lucrative these auto-voting systems really are.

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@ashtv · Mar 14 '19

$0.10

Crikey! That’s both equally fascinating and a little disheartening that the system can be played so easily. Like you say, it’s all about your moral compass and objectives.

I’m not techy-minded at all... but it’s interesting to think that **IF** I had the knowhow to set up an auto-curated account - whether I could resist it or not.

Nice post @daan

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👍 daan

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@bengy · Mar 14 '19

$0.14

Hmmm.. I still don't understand how that is happening? I thought that they would recover no curation reward?!?!?... Is it just the dust times a million votes... so the sheer number of votes make up for the small individual curation reward? They make much more than I do....

👍 daan, ethandsmith, thesteemengine

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@bozz · Mar 14 '19

$0.31

I have my wife's account setup as an autovoter since she never posts anything.  She used to answer questions on Musing, but the quality there has really went downhill since they lost their delegation.  Plus it just isn't worth her time anymore.  All that being said, the autovoting her account does, is on accounts and trails that were manually curated by me.  I've never just had her account blindly vote on specific tags nor would I ever.

👍 daan, ethandsmith, thesteemengine

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@cryptoandcoffee · Mar 14 '19

$0.03

I find this fascinating as you say it goes against everything our brain is telling us. Curation earnings are important and can be worth their weight in gold done correctly and these accounts are playing the system wonderfully well and I am impressed.

👍 daan

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@fitinfun · Mar 14 '19

$0.03

I just looked at one the ones I get yesterday and found it getting 6 sp a day. I think with 3000 sp. The votes I get are way smaller than yours. I can have 5 votes and still no reward at 10 minutes. 

>they're actually losing most of their curation rewards to the author of the post

I do not think the author gets the reward though for those early votes. I think it goes back the to reward pool. Somewhere I read this changed at the last hardfork.

👍 daan

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@daan · Mar 14 '19

> I do not think the author gets the reward though for those early votes. I think it goes back the to reward pool. Somewhere I read this changed at the last hardfork.

I thought this was only the case for self-votes before the 15 minute mark? Could be wrong though.

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@fitinfun · Mar 14 '19

Well, I  am not sure either. Obi-Wan-Asher @abh12345 always likes it when I ask him for help, and this is his type of topic. Maybe he will chime in and let us know the real truth :).

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@thesteemengine · Mar 18 '19

It's my understanding that the policy changed at the last HF.  Prior to HF20, any vote before the *thirty minute* mark gave all the rewards to the author.  The voter got nothing.  Then as a kind of compromise (because people hated waiting around for half an hour to vote on something -- and who could blame them -- another thing Steemit couldn't get right.) the "wait time" was changed to 15 minutes (and even that is pro-rated I hear) so that if you vote before the 15 minute mark, your part of the curation reward -- or part of it -- who knows, it's not like they make anything easy -- either goes back into the reward pool or gets burned.  Either way, you get nothing.  The author gets nothing extra.  (Yeah, that was a huge improvement, wasn't it?)

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@jeanpi1908 · Mar 14 '19

$0.26

For your information the part that goes to the author doesn't goes to the author anymore, they go back to the reward pool.

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@daan · Mar 17 '19

$0.07

Yeah, I've come to that conclusion as well after reading the comments. Seems like the FAQ on Steemit.com isn't updated to include changes of HF20.

👍 jeanpi1908, ethandsmith, thesteemengine

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@jeanpi1908 · Mar 17 '19

$0.07

Yeah I think it wasn't changed since I started on Steem

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👍 daan

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@meesterboom · Mar 14 '19

$0.04

Damn man, that is quite the return. I too assumed with the sp they had and the voting percentages used that they wouldn't be gaining much.

👍 daan

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@daan · Mar 14 '19

$0.06

Exactly my thoughts as well, until I had a look for myself. Plus, they're upvoting after 3 minutes, so they're giving most of their curation rewards to the author. Very surprised to see these results.

👍 ethandsmith, meesterboom, thesteemengine

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@meesterboom · Mar 14 '19

$0.02

I wonder if they have genuinely fiddled with the timings to maximise their return and decided that was the best saying or they just pumped for as early as possible to gazump others. Personally I have found 10-12 mins to be the sweet spot!

👍 daan

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3 replies

@natubat · Mar 15 '19

$0.14

I'll have to look into this further, to work out what the difference is between these autovote curation bots, and the kind of autovoting I set up for accounts that I particularly like, when I know I'll probably be away sometimes when they post, and I love their work.
I'm guessing it's the frequency and the number of posts these bots vote for.
I don't think my posts attract many of these bots, though I may be wrong... I rarely get round to checking these things.
Having said all this, I see this as all part of the fantastic, amazing game that is Steemit. I personally use Steemit to try and write quality posts and hopefully get some attention for them, while reading the quality posts of other Steemians, and earning a bit of pocket money!
Other people use Steemit in different ways - to gossip and have fun, to play games like SteemMonsters, to develop new ideas...
One thing I love about Steemit is the investment aspect. Most people buy Bitcoin for speculation, in the hope that the price will rocket. But Steemit offers so many different ways to make your investment work for you, whether the price is going up or down. I think this is one of the big advantages of the platform, and it should be valued.
I don't like seeing outright abuses of Steemit - crap being bidbotted into Trending, circle-jerking etc. But bots making money by regularly upvoting posts that people put effort into producing? That seems like a good thing to me :) Maybe I'll give it a go if I can work out how!
Thanks for another eye-opening, thought-provoking and informative post!

👍 daan, ethandsmith, thesteemengine

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@revisesociology · Mar 17 '19

$0.08

I've just been reviewing curation myself - @steevc put me onto this as I'd noticed the same via beempy.com - some of those small accounts are getting a 200% + return by voting early. 

I don't really understand how it works and I'm not sure about the ethics of it either, but like you find it all fascinating!

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@daan · Mar 17 '19

$0.05

Yeah I really don't understand why they're getting so many curation rewards. There isn't some sort of minimum curation reward, right? I mean, that's almost what it looks like to me.

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@revisesociology · Mar 17 '19

I dunno - 

I did a test where I altered my 9K (at 20%) auto vote on one post to around 7 mins as an expt and my CR is down to 60% so it doesn't work for larger accounts.

On the same post my 50SP alt account got a 200% return voting at 3 mins. 

Maybe it is min return? Or perhaps it's the ratio of large votes to smaller votes coming before hand?

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@steeimran · Mar 14 '19

There are also accounts tracking all who used the bidbot, how many times do I send a certain amount of sbd to a particular bot, I will be surprised by many votes and in varying percentages depending on how much I sent to bot

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@steem-ua · Mar 15 '19

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@steevc · Mar 14 '19

$0.04

I am not that bothered about whether I get their votes if they are not interacting, but it seems they are just exploiting my posts for their own profit. I guess there's not much we can do about it.

👍 daan

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@daan · Mar 14 '19

$0.12

Yeah, I don't think there's anything you can do about it. On the bright side, most of their curation rewards should be going to you, the author. Unless that has changed since HF20, not sure about that. (I thought it just changed curation rewards from self-voting under 15 minutes)

👍 bryan-imhoff, ethandsmith, steevc, thesteemengine

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@bryan-imhoff · Mar 14 '19

$0.05

I think those changes applied to all voting, although the primary use case was to mitigate the fact that early self votes by authors received a huge advantage. As of the hard fork, the pre 15 minute curation percentage that would previously have been going to the author should now be recycling back into the rewards pool instead.

👍 daan

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@steevc · Mar 14 '19 (edited)

$0.03

Whatever I get is ploughed into SP, so it can help with our minnow promotion project. Those people are missing out if they don't post much, but I guess they have passive income.

👍 daan

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@steevc · Mar 15 '19

$0.03

I've still got these votes on my latest post even though I declined rewards, so they wasted their votes on that.

👍 daan

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@superpanz · Mar 14 '19

Holy Guacamole! Did not expect those results! Thanks for sharing I’m gonna go learn coding now lol 

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@tattoodjay · Mar 14 '19

$0.09

I am shocked how much they are making, I gues sit smy old school side coming out i really do not like auto voting and bots and other than a few accounts getting votes automatically from me which I am considering shutting down, but I will keep them setup to use if I am offline fore a few days so my voting power does not get wasted, I like reading and commenting on posts rather than just auto votes being given

👍 daan, ethandsmith, thesteemengine

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@thesteemengine · Mar 18 '19

Congratulations! This post has been chosen as one of the daily Whistle Stops for The STEEM Engine!

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