create account

Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS by dan

View this thread on: hive.blogpeakd.comecency.com
· @dan · (edited)
Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS
Vitalik Buterin recently [took a question about EOS at the Ethereum Shenzhen Keynote](https://youtu.be/SuY6L1nhWxM?t=495). Today I would like to provide some factual corrections to his claims about EOS. I will do this by addressing each of his points one at a time. 

https://youtu.be/SuY6L1nhWxM?t=495

At 8:20 minutes into the above video Vitalik Buteran says:

> The reason why EOS says that they can process more transactions comes from two sources. One of them is there are a lot of protocol features that Ethereum has EOS doesn’t have. One of them, for example, was merkle trees. So this if you want to prove anything about a transaction then anyone in the network can prove it. And you actually don’t need that much computing power to prove that the state of that account is some number and that the transaction was included. EOS does not have this.

[EOS does have a merkle tree over all the transactions within a block](https://github.com/EOSIO/Documentation/blob/master/TechnicalWhitePaper.md#merkle-proofs-for-light-client-validation--lcv-). This means it is possible to prove you have been paid without having to process all blocks nor trust the full nodes. In fact, these proofs are smaller than ETH because light nodes don’t even require the full history of block headers.

I have previously addressed the issue of generating Merkle Tree’s over state in my blog post titled [Blockchain State Representation should be Abstract and not part of Consensus](https://steemit.com/etheruem/@dantheman/blockchain-state-representation-should-be-abstract-and-not-part-of-consensus).  I have also made the analogy that Blockchain state is like [Schrödiger’s cat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat), you can never actually observe it or prove anything about it except by opening the box to find out if the cat is dead or alive.  More specifically, while you can prove what the state was 1 minute ago (when you last opened the box), you cannot prove what the state is right now.  At any time a transaction could mutate that state and it will no longer be the same as when you read it.  The only exception is the use of “time locks” that assert the state cannot be modified for some time. Heavy use of time locks will crush performance and is of limited application.

> What this means is that if you are participating in the EOS network and you do not have a full node, that means a node that is processing all of the transactions. Then that means you have to trust the full nodes. That there is no way to verify for yourself that everything is happening correctly.

EOS is designed to allow nodes that validate partial state. This means that not all nodes need to run every contract. This in turn means it is possible to know the state of the applications and contracts you care about without having a highly resource demanding full node. Second, light clients can prove what actions users took (transactions), therefore, they can prove payment. Third, if a proof is really necessary they can broadcast a transaction that will assert the state they care about. If you cannot find multiple independent sources of blockchain truth that you can cross reference then you have bigger problems. Finally, everyone in the EOS ecosystem is contractually bound by a constitution and if the API nodes lie about blockchain state there will be cryptographic evidence of their lie and they can be held accountable for damages.

In Ethereum you have to trust the light clients are validating proofs and syncing from the proper blockchain. The merkle proofs you do generate about state are quickly dated and irrelevant. 

## Attacking DPOS

Next Vitalik goes on to attack Delegated Proof of Stake.

> The number of full nodes in EOS is going to be smaller.  So Dan Larimer has this concept called DPOS where he says that in DPOS you only need about 100 nodes in the network and consensus happens among these full nodes and everyone else is a thin client. The other reason it (EOS) claims it can process more transactions is because the requirements (bandwidth, computing) for each of these full nodes is much higher. This is one way to achieve scalability. 
> 
> The problem is that if you have 100 nodes the system is much more centralized. You can denial of service them. Because you have to vote for them, the nodes that win are going to be the nodes that everyone knows. So it is much easier to attack the people running the nodes. ISPs can shut them down, companies can shut them down, governments can shut it down fairly easily. That particular path to scalability does come at a fairly high cost and that cost is that if you try to achieve scalability by having larger nodes then the number of nodes becomes much smaller is that that makes the system more centralized. 

His basic argument is that there are fewer full nodes and that they are easily identified and can be shut down by governments. He goes on to say that achieving scalability by having larger nodes makes the system more centralized. This of course demands a comparison, “more centralized than what”.

Here is the distribution of block producing nodes on Ethereum. As you can see two pools control 51% of the hash power and can trivially ignore blocks produced by all the other pools. 

<div class="pull-right">

![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmRmDVbfqF1aYtUkbXTWxYB1XQWgA9s2hwDFXChueh3tDE/image.png)

</div>

The next fact is that for all practical purposes ETH full nodes are already too resource intensive for the vast majority. On top of that almost all light clients don’t even bother with the merkle proofs that Vitalik claims are so valuable. 

The fact of the matter is that when it comes to block producers, Ethereum and every other protocol is far more centralized than the DPOS blockchains; especially when you use [meaningful definitions of centralization](http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2015/01/13/Decentralization-of-Nxt-vs-BitShares/) (such as number of unique producers per transaction confirmation window).

## The Black Market

Vitalik’s final point is that DPOS can be shut down far more easily by governments, ISPs, and corporations. This point is built on top a foundation of false assumptions regarding decentralization that I have already proven above.  The fact of the matter is that Ethereum and Bitcoin have already suffered denial of service attacks where as Steem and BitShares have not despite attempts to flood the network.  As the pie chart above demonstrates, it would be trivial to cripple Ethereum’s network by taking out 90% of the hash power with 7 nodes. 

The elephant in the room is that all of these public blockchains rely upon a peer-to-peer discovery process. Governments and ISPs around the world know exactly where every Ethereum node is and can trivially shutdown any and all public endpoints. 

We have already established that Etheruem full nodes are too impractical at today’s scale. This means that real applications will be relying upon public API endpoints. The recent EOS Token Distribution application was sufficiently demanding to shut down all available public API endpoints.  

The threat of government shutdown is based primarily on an assumption of illegal activity. We believe that there is a blue ocean of opportunities for legal blockchain applications that do not need to worry about a coordinated international effort to shut them down. Block producers and API endpoints can be setup in the most free jurisdictions 

## Conclusion 

EOS is designed around far more realistic assumptions and logic and achieves scalability by avoiding the dogmatic fallacies promoted by Bitcoin and Ethereum maximalists. I have shown time and again that DPOS is more decentralized in practice by any real measure of decentralization. I have also shown that there are more options for light clients and that Vitalik’s claims of government resistance ignore fundamental properties and vulnerabilities of any public blockchain. 


For those interested in the topic of decentralization you should read these blog posts of mine:

- [Decentralization of Nxt vs BitShares](http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2015/01/13/Decentralization-of-Nxt-vs-BitShares/)
- [Decentralization, Scalability, and Fault Tolerance of Bitcoin]( http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2015/01/12/Decentralization-Scalability-and-Fault-Tolerance-of-Bitcoin/)
- [How to Measure the Decentralization of Bitcoin](http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2015/01/09/How-to-Measure-the-Decentralization-of-Bitcoin/)
- [The Most Decentralized Proof of Stake System](http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2015/01/07/The-Most-Decentralized-Proof-of-Stake-System/)
👍  , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , and 378 others
👎  , , , ,
properties (23)
authordan
permlinkresponse-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos","ethereum","vitalik"],"image":["https://img.youtube.com/vi/SuY6L1nhWxM/0.jpg","https://steemitimages.com/DQmRmDVbfqF1aYtUkbXTWxYB1XQWgA9s2hwDFXChueh3tDE/image.png"],"links":["https://youtu.be/SuY6L1nhWxM?t=495","https://github.com/EOSIO/Documentation/blob/master/TechnicalWhitePaper.md#merkle-proofs-for-light-client-validation--lcv-","https://steemit.com/etheruem/@dantheman/blockchain-state-representation-should-be-abstract-and-not-part-of-consensus","https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat","http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2015/01/13/Decentralization-of-Nxt-vs-BitShares/","http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2015/01/12/Decentralization-Scalability-and-Fault-Tolerance-of-Bitcoin/","http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2015/01/09/How-to-Measure-the-Decentralization-of-Bitcoin/","http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2015/01/07/The-Most-Decentralized-Proof-of-Stake-System/"],"app":"steemit/0.1","format":"markdown"}
created2017-07-31 13:23:30
last_update2017-07-31 13:29:48
depth0
children171
last_payout2017-08-07 13:23:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length8,649
author_reputation155,470,101,136,708
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout0.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,319,540
net_rshares104,958,149,161,486
author_curate_reward""
vote details (447)
@admyrer ·
Lots to think about . Thank you for bringing this to attention .
properties (22)
authoradmyrer
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t140144994z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:01:45
last_update2017-07-31 14:01:45
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:01:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length64
author_reputation419,688,682,599
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,322,864
net_rshares0
@aggroed ·
$1.06
DPOS is the shit, but it seems to require a slightly better distribution initially so as to not concentrate power to absurdly.  I have concerns about eth, which are why I'm currently not invested.  Centralization seems intense over there.

How will EOS generate new tokens after the initial offering?  I'm interested in how do you expect ownership distribution over time to change and do you think the plan in place will favor concentration or reach a different equilibrium.  For example Steemit has 93% of the steem in the hands of 1% of the accounts (exclusive of the steemit account).  How do you see distribution taking shape and where do you see it in the future?

How does recent rulings by the SEC saying ICOs are now under their domain effect your plans?

Lastly, I'm spent hundreds of hours on this platform and am thankful for your creation.  Kudos.  I'd also like to read more from you than just EOS topics.  Hopefully you'll post a broader series of topics which encourage people to read on steemit, stay on steemit, and grow steemit as well as supporting EOS.
👍  , , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authoraggroed
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t145452335z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:54:51
last_update2017-07-31 14:54:51
depth1
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 14:54:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.808 HBD
curator_payout_value0.254 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length1,072
author_reputation1,363,336,802,559,840
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,327,435
net_rshares262,257,602,242
author_curate_reward""
vote details (8)
@stellabelle ·
i have the same questions.
properties (22)
authorstellabelle
permlinkre-aggroed-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t205644660z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 20:56:45
last_update2017-07-31 20:56:45
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 20:56:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length26
author_reputation516,061,669,130,124
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,353,583
net_rshares0
@alanmirza ·
properties (23)
authoralanmirza
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t195125784z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 19:51:36
last_update2017-07-31 19:51:36
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 19:51:36
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length7
author_reputation9,688,354,447,537
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,348,916
net_rshares2,369,535,751
author_curate_reward""
vote details (4)
@alfa2141 · (edited)
i love post you    Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS
👍  ,
properties (23)
authoralfa2141
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t133317994z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:33:18
last_update2017-07-31 13:33:42
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:33:18
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length53
author_reputation-52,190,447,702
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,320,363
net_rshares522,313,374
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@arcange ·
Congratulations @dan!
Your post was mentioned in the [hit parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20170731) in the following categories:

* Comments - Ranked 8 with 132 comments
* Pending payout - Ranked 3 with $ 372,77
properties (22)
authorarcange
permlinkre-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t162809000z
categoryeos
json_metadata""
created2017-08-01 14:28:09
last_update2017-08-01 14:28:09
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 14:28:09
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length245
author_reputation1,148,349,221,690,653
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,429,572
net_rshares0
@awaismuneeb1 ·
Please follow Upvote or promote my account in this steemit, i really need it. Hopefully not ignored. Thanks , hope you easy sustenance
i upvote u and follow u also
👎  ,
properties (23)
authorawaismuneeb1
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t140330583z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:03:18
last_update2017-07-31 14:03:18
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:03:18
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length163
author_reputation4,819,028,127
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,322,996
net_rshares-1,734,698,533,796
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@bad.r2017 ·
##  [**[WARNING] Everybody should stop using Bitcoin (Right Now)**](https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@bad.r2017/warning-everybody-should-stop-using-bitcoin-right-now)
👎  
properties (23)
authorbad.r2017
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t140636421z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"links":["https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@bad.r2017/warning-everybody-should-stop-using-bitcoin-right-now"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:06:39
last_update2017-07-31 14:06:39
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:06:39
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length161
author_reputation20,609,603,422
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,323,292
net_rshares-591,132,845
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@bad.r2017 ·
# [**Ethereum price may goes up this week [Starting from tomorrow]**](https://steemit.com/ethereum/@bad.r2017/ethereum-price-may-goes-up-week-starting-from-tomorrow)
👎  
properties (23)
authorbad.r2017
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t142137373z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"links":["https://steemit.com/ethereum/@bad.r2017/ethereum-price-may-goes-up-week-starting-from-tomorrow"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:21:48
last_update2017-07-31 14:21:48
depth1
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 14:21:48
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length165
author_reputation20,609,603,422
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,324,543
net_rshares-25,246,806,073
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@josephd ·
$0.03
correct
👍  
properties (23)
authorjosephd
permlinkre-badr2017-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t081047284z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 08:10:48
last_update2017-08-01 08:10:48
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 08:10:48
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.019 HBD
curator_payout_value0.006 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length7
author_reputation1,477,494,490,230
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,398,426
net_rshares6,633,651,422
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@barrydutton ·
I just said this on your other post moments ago but others hopefully that miss that, will see this and it is relative:

Dan knows most of this code talk is above  my head but I have been getting the sense for awhile now, even though I cannot follow everything, that EOS is scaring a lot of the big players /  older players and tech in the  market.  

I have pointed out recently, I find it interesting not many people are talking about the fact either that Dan has 3 projects in the Top 20 coins in Crypto...... and I do not think anyone else can actually say that.   

It dawned on me the last few weeks one day looking at CoinmarketCap.com in the bloodshed markets..... trying to find silver linings.  

Thanks Dan.
properties (22)
authorbarrydutton
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t180442935z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 18:04:42
last_update2017-07-31 18:04:42
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 18:04:42
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length717
author_reputation333,942,309,404,197
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,341,765
net_rshares0
@beckerly ·
> "*We have already established that Etheruem full nodes are too impractical at today’s scale. This means that real applications will be relying upon public API endpoints. **The recent EOS Token Distribution application was sufficiently demanding to shut down all available public API endpoints.***"

Oh that's so cold, I love it...
properties (22)
authorbeckerly
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t142509940z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:25:12
last_update2017-07-31 14:25:12
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:25:12
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length332
author_reputation149,122,806,152
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,324,802
net_rshares0
@belalmood ·
This is going really well!!!
properties (22)
authorbelalmood
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20180519t192033489z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2018-05-19 19:20:33
last_update2018-05-19 19:20:33
depth1
children0
last_payout2018-05-26 19:20:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length28
author_reputation0
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id56,591,448
net_rshares0
@benjojo ·
![IMG_5283.GIF](https://steemitimages.com/DQmciTiMSrTdU5QjvKcBF4LCZg8TatgCAwVM8uwzTuHz1bK/IMG_5283.GIF)
👍  
properties (23)
authorbenjojo
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t140718671z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["https://steemitimages.com/DQmciTiMSrTdU5QjvKcBF4LCZg8TatgCAwVM8uwzTuHz1bK/IMG_5283.GIF"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:07:21
last_update2017-07-31 14:07:21
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:07:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length103
author_reputation120,749,050,383,122
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,323,366
net_rshares655,769,671
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@bhagyesh1 ·
Dan the man
properties (22)
authorbhagyesh1
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20171115t122400918z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-11-15 12:20:48
last_update2017-11-15 12:20:48
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-11-22 12:20:48
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length11
author_reputation209,502,339,597
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id20,460,080
net_rshares0
@biltu ·
Nice
properties (22)
authorbiltu
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t180154606z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 18:02:12
last_update2017-07-31 18:02:12
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 18:02:12
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length4
author_reputation8,091,030,148
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,341,589
net_rshares0
@biswakayan.das ·
This  was an EPIC conversation between two  geeks. One pointed out the flaws and the other response in an nice way with valid proofs. 

But the real challenge is EOS should not be too late delivering the solutions, else people with start distrusting them as they don't  have anything concrete.
properties (22)
authorbiswakayan.das
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170806t163958231z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-06 16:39:57
last_update2017-08-06 16:39:57
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-13 16:39:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length293
author_reputation0
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,963,935
net_rshares0
@bitizen ·
Just watch the video and the article. Thumb up !
properties (22)
authorbitizen
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20171016t145843725z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-10-16 14:58:45
last_update2017-10-16 14:58:45
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-10-23 14:58:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length48
author_reputation326,387,778
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id17,830,278
net_rshares0
@bleepcoin ·
$7.87
Audience member to Vitalik "you are centralised.." ha!
👍  , , , , , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authorbleepcoin
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t144419817z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:44:21
last_update2017-07-31 14:44:21
depth1
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 14:44:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value6.511 HBD
curator_payout_value1.356 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length54
author_reputation30,703,823,306,707
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,326,521
net_rshares1,939,702,448,939
author_curate_reward""
vote details (11)
@nasrud ·
Bang me please upvote my posting one only. Already tired my posting dolarnya very not increased. I implore very, my family is hungry please upvote every post me Mr @dan
👍  
properties (23)
authornasrud
permlinkre-bleepcoin-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170815t133846794z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["dan"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-15 13:38:48
last_update2017-08-15 13:38:48
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-22 13:38:48
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length168
author_reputation12,576,574,013,771
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id11,880,084
net_rshares0
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@bleujay ·
Thank you for posting @dan.

This detailed response to Vitalik Buterin is appreciated ....point by point.

The information regarding the possibility of ETH nodes being able to be shut down by governments is enlightening.  

.....…bringing up these queries;

How safe are programs built on the Graphene Blockchain from such an action.....is the difference between public and private blockchain.......how does one distinguish the difference?

Kind Regards, bleujay.
properties (22)
authorbleujay
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t094931914z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["dan"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 09:49:33
last_update2017-08-01 09:49:33
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 09:49:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length463
author_reputation222,169,013,380,906
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,405,242
net_rshares0
@blockchainbros ·
I'd like to hear Vitalik and Larimer have a discussion about this! Now that would be interesting
properties (22)
authorblockchainbros
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170803t034332838z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-03 03:43:30
last_update2017-08-03 03:43:30
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-10 03:43:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length96
author_reputation190,442,136,344
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,602,143
net_rshares0
@btcmillionaire ·
$18.03
properties (23)
authorbtcmillionaire
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t134206137z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:42:03
last_update2017-07-31 13:42:03
depth1
children20
last_payout2017-08-07 13:42:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value14.790 HBD
curator_payout_value3.240 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length33
author_reputation8,659,596,341,168
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,321,113
net_rshares4,432,334,523,228
author_curate_reward""
vote details (45)
@andyturner ·
I'd say so.
properties (22)
authorandyturner
permlinkre-btcmillionaire-2017731t16320393z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":"eos","app":"esteem/1.4.7","format":"markdown+html","community":"esteem"}
created2017-07-31 14:03:24
last_update2017-07-31 14:03:24
depth2
children3
last_payout2017-08-07 14:03:24
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length11
author_reputation197,672,745,879
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries
0.
accountesteemapp
weight500
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,323,004
net_rshares0
@matrixdweller ·
lol
properties (22)
authormatrixdweller
permlinkre-andyturner-re-btcmillionaire-2017731t16320393z-20170731t140342107z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:04:33
last_update2017-07-31 14:04:33
depth3
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:04:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length3
author_reputation-29,653,420,748,873
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,323,100
net_rshares0
@matrixdweller · (edited)
Too bad the whales would rather flag me for voting trump.
👍  
👎  
properties (23)
authormatrixdweller
permlinkre-andyturner-re-btcmillionaire-2017731t16320393z-20170731t140408595z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:04:57
last_update2017-07-31 14:05:36
depth3
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 14:04:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length57
author_reputation-29,653,420,748,873
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,323,149
net_rshares-1,716,751,057,845
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@crypto-investor · (edited)
Yes, exactly @btcmillionaire
properties (22)
authorcrypto-investor
permlinkre-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t170319703z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["btcmillionaire"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 17:03:30
last_update2017-07-31 17:11:12
depth2
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 17:03:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length28
author_reputation10,516,819,283,024
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,337,102
net_rshares0
@matrixdweller ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W17M2xe4Ae8
👍  ,
👎  
properties (23)
authormatrixdweller
permlinkre-crypto-investor-re-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t174420296z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["https://img.youtube.com/vi/W17M2xe4Ae8/0.jpg"],"links":["https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W17M2xe4Ae8"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 17:45:09
last_update2017-07-31 17:45:09
depth3
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 17:45:09
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length43
author_reputation-29,653,420,748,873
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,340,286
net_rshares-146,400,900,166,113
author_curate_reward""
vote details (3)
@johnsmith · (edited)
$3.63
This is my sense as well - the points VB brought against EOS were trivial and have been addressed in the design of EOS. Considering how centralized Ethereum is vs Bitshares/Steem the DPOS slam is comical. Eth is complete garbage if your measuring stick is decentralization.

The fact of the matter is, in the 'real world', Bitshares and Steem are doing way, way better than Eth. We have every reason to expect EOS will perform the same or better, which means Eth is dead in about 12 months.
👍  , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,
👎  
properties (23)
authorjohnsmith
permlinkre-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t154604061z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:46:03
last_update2017-07-31 15:47:27
depth2
children8
last_payout2017-08-07 15:46:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value3.383 HBD
curator_payout_value0.242 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length490
author_reputation22,729,726,767,685
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,331,319
net_rshares893,611,399,309
author_curate_reward""
vote details (24)
@codydeeds ·
Im on this boat
👍  
properties (23)
authorcodydeeds
permlinkre-johnsmith-re-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t180721190z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 18:07:21
last_update2017-07-31 18:07:21
depth3
children4
last_payout2017-08-07 18:07:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length15
author_reputation38,090,771,215,071
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,341,964
net_rshares0
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@jinx1984 ·
4 months left...............
properties (22)
authorjinx1984
permlinkre-johnsmith-re-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20180405t190200638z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2018-04-05 19:02:03
last_update2018-04-05 19:02:03
depth3
children0
last_payout2018-04-12 19:02:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length28
author_reputation14,527,090,489
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id48,535,904
net_rshares0
@matrixdweller ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W17M2xe4Ae8
properties (22)
authormatrixdweller
permlinkre-johnsmith-re-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t174103181z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["https://img.youtube.com/vi/W17M2xe4Ae8/0.jpg"],"links":["https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W17M2xe4Ae8"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 17:41:51
last_update2017-07-31 17:41:51
depth3
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 17:41:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length43
author_reputation-29,653,420,748,873
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,340,035
net_rshares0
@naturalista ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftDF-zImjWQ
👍  ,
👎  
properties (23)
authornaturalista
permlinkre-johnsmith-re-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t163306072z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["https://img.youtube.com/vi/ftDF-zImjWQ/0.jpg"],"links":["https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftDF-zImjWQ"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 16:33:54
last_update2017-07-31 16:33:54
depth3
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 16:33:54
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length43
author_reputation-5,843,257,650,483
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,334,985
net_rshares-1,715,251,432,072
author_curate_reward""
vote details (3)
@matrixdweller ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv64-LUFFL8
👍  
👎  
properties (23)
authormatrixdweller
permlinkre-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t134330548z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["https://img.youtube.com/vi/Yv64-LUFFL8/0.jpg"],"links":["https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv64-LUFFL8"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:44:21
last_update2017-07-31 13:44:21
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:44:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length43
author_reputation-29,653,420,748,873
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,321,325
net_rshares-1,716,582,583,314
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@solar ·
$0.79
Not really, if you watched the whole video he mentions that there will be plenty of room for all sorts of different decentralized models.  

His critique isn't really "an attack" like Dan says, he just points out the difference in how the protocol is structured.  I think dan makes a good point about ETH nodes in it's current state, but also ignores that each pool is made of hundreds if not thousands of potential nodes.  All that being said ETH moves towards POS it will be way more decentralized than DPOS as far as a node structure.
👍  , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authorsolar
permlinkre-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t153538459z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:35:39
last_update2017-07-31 15:35:39
depth2
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 15:35:39
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.666 HBD
curator_payout_value0.128 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length537
author_reputation1,511,386,357,565
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,330,468
net_rshares196,182,720,927
author_curate_reward""
vote details (18)
@lsdmt ·
>All that being said ETH moves towards POS it will be way more decentralized than DPOS as far as a node structure. 

I never understood this thought process.  ETH's proposed POS consensus by definition is way more centralized than it's current POW algorithm
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorlsdmt
permlinkre-solar-re-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170828t014350456z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-28 01:43:51
last_update2017-08-28 01:43:51
depth3
children0
last_payout2017-09-04 01:43:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length257
author_reputation63,893,108
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id13,077,625
net_rshares0
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@stellabelle ·
yes, it appears so!
properties (22)
authorstellabelle
permlinkre-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t203917826z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 20:39:18
last_update2017-07-31 20:39:18
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 20:39:18
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length19
author_reputation516,061,669,130,124
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,352,259
net_rshares0
@stonedbenots ·
Haha yeah, obviously I respect and like the guy but one can't really argue he doesn't have bias due to his PoS
👍  , ,
properties (23)
authorstonedbenots
permlinkre-btcmillionaire-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t190651725z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 19:06:51
last_update2017-07-31 19:06:51
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 19:06:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length110
author_reputation106,602,012,037
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,345,766
net_rshares2,078,561,108
author_curate_reward""
vote details (3)
@canglong ·
dan,EOS  GO
properties (22)
authorcanglong
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20180424t153137544z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2018-04-24 15:31:39
last_update2018-04-24 15:31:39
depth1
children0
last_payout2018-05-01 15:31:39
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length11
author_reputation0
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id51,887,823
net_rshares0
@celsius100 ·
If  Vitalik has to fight EOS off now, long before it is active, then ETH is worried.  Just listen to him try to explain, hemming and hawing.  ETH is going down.
properties (22)
authorcelsius100
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t133717293z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:37:21
last_update2017-07-31 13:37:21
depth1
children3
last_payout2017-08-07 13:37:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length160
author_reputation1,890,481,416,542
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,320,717
net_rshares0
@mythocurrency ·
I like EOS, but I don't know if he is fighting them off. If I understand it correctly, he was asked for his opinion.

I'm definitely not taking sides, however. :D
properties (22)
authormythocurrency
permlinkre-celsius100-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t140821835z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:08:21
last_update2017-07-31 14:08:21
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:08:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length162
author_reputation156,817,316,177
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,323,452
net_rshares0
@rt395 ·
Yes, this is what's happening. ETH is bloated, vulnerable and written in an obscure language. It will be disrupted, unless of course Gov. & big corporations adopt it and back it making it one of the "legal" platforms.
properties (22)
authorrt395
permlinkre-celsius100-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t135233798z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:52:33
last_update2017-07-31 13:52:33
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:52:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length217
author_reputation238,764,427,382,944
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,322,083
net_rshares0
@summerskin ·
I agree. Plus there has been so much hype around, Vitalik... people saying he's a genius, so young, etc, that for him I think this is all very personal.
properties (22)
authorsummerskin
permlinkre-celsius100-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t173130132z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 17:31:30
last_update2017-07-31 17:31:30
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 17:31:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length152
author_reputation1,128,543,280,669
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,339,227
net_rshares0
@ch00fy ·
Very enjoyable read in big hopes for the future of EOS
properties (22)
authorch00fy
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t155519132z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:55:21
last_update2017-07-31 15:55:21
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 15:55:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length54
author_reputation9,689,786,685,249
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,332,005
net_rshares0
@cron ·
$9.19
Dan and Vitalik is like Steve and Bill in 80s. Two great minds taking building future each in own way. We are tremendously lucky to have you both.
👍  , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authorcron
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t180358861z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 18:04:00
last_update2017-07-31 18:04:00
depth1
children2
last_payout2017-08-07 18:04:00
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value7.694 HBD
curator_payout_value1.499 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length146
author_reputation41,199,477,443,220
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,341,717
net_rshares2,266,709,879,512
author_curate_reward""
vote details (29)
@pfa ·
$1.04
well put @cron
👍  , ,
properties (23)
authorpfa
permlinkre-cron-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170808t170421772z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["cron"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-08 17:04:24
last_update2017-08-08 17:04:24
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-15 17:04:24
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.996 HBD
curator_payout_value0.048 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length14
author_reputation10,489,596,179,906
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id11,191,969
net_rshares283,004,827,039
author_curate_reward""
vote details (3)
@stonedbenots · (edited)
$0.13
Agreed! The beauty is we get to watch their bickering/debating live and in the company of steemians

The future is right around the corner guys, we made it
👍  , , , , ,
properties (23)
authorstonedbenots
permlinkre-cron-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t190730491z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 19:07:30
last_update2017-07-31 19:08:15
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 19:07:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.104 HBD
curator_payout_value0.026 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length155
author_reputation106,602,012,037
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,345,819
net_rshares32,394,790,430
author_curate_reward""
vote details (6)
@demotruk · (edited)
The incumbent being oblivious to details about the potential disruptor is always a good sign for the disruptor.

Although it's funny to call Ethereum an incumbent when it doesn't really have users in practice. It has ICO's and some gambling applications that actually work, everything else requires oracles which is a problem Ethereum has not yet solved. Steem has far more *actual usage* going on, but it isn't a generalized smart contract platform.
properties (22)
authordemotruk
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t134348956z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:43:48
last_update2017-07-31 13:46:27
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:43:48
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length450
author_reputation279,453,298,745,864
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,321,275
net_rshares0
@dirtyburger ·
Ethereum worries me in general...
👍  
properties (23)
authordirtyburger
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t161216939z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 16:12:18
last_update2017-07-31 16:12:18
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 16:12:18
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length33
author_reputation53,502,862,041
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,333,330
net_rshares1,160,698,898
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@ebejammin ·
$1.91
@dan be like
https://media.giphy.com/media/15BuyagtKucHm/giphy.gif
👍  , , , ,
properties (23)
authorebejammin
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t155257598z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["dan"],"image":["https://media.giphy.com/media/15BuyagtKucHm/giphy.gif"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:52:57
last_update2017-07-31 15:52:57
depth1
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 15:52:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value1.897 HBD
curator_payout_value0.012 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length66
author_reputation346,824,816,671
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,331,827
net_rshares470,591,241,390
author_curate_reward""
vote details (5)
@braxton101 ·
Lmao love them drops!!
👍  
properties (23)
authorbraxton101
permlinkre-ebejammin-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t012323446z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 01:23:21
last_update2017-08-01 01:23:21
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 01:23:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length22
author_reputation5,211,856,126,324
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,371,690
net_rshares615,146,771
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@eeks · (edited)
$2.60
What % of Steem holders, by number, have ever voted for a witness?

Also I posted your response to [Vitalik's written post](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/6qm0y2/is_the_ethereum_team_defending_their_ground/dkyk94c/) to facilitate.
👍  , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authoreeks
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t140147127z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1","links":["https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/6qm0y2/is_the_ethereum_team_defending_their_ground/dkyk94c/"]}
created2017-07-31 14:01:45
last_update2017-07-31 14:09:18
depth1
children16
last_payout2017-08-07 14:01:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value2.573 HBD
curator_payout_value0.026 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length241
author_reputation21,536,775,583,000
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,322,866
net_rshares639,958,995,839
author_curate_reward""
vote details (7)
@dan ·
$2.43
My response to his written remarks: https://steemit.com/eos/@dan/reponse-to-vitalik-s-written-remarks
👍  , , , , , , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authordan
permlinkre-eeks-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t160341023z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"links":["https://steemit.com/eos/@dan/reponse-to-vitalik-s-written-remarks"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 16:03:39
last_update2017-07-31 16:03:39
depth2
children3
last_payout2017-08-07 16:03:39
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value1.908 HBD
curator_payout_value0.524 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length101
author_reputation155,470,101,136,708
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,332,643
net_rshares600,652,846,462
author_curate_reward""
vote details (12)
@quinneaker ·
$1.66
I find it quite surprising that @dan can make a comment on Steemit and get only 7 up votes and 0 comments. It seems that there would be hundreds of people wanting attention or to give thanks to the "creator" of Steemit or spammers looking for up votes/follows.....17 hours and not one comment....

I may not know what exactly this means, but it seems logical that either not many people are even reading many comments or comments down this far in the thread to realize @dan commented, or not noticing that he did. 

Its also quite likely that because there are SO many NEW users that the majority of them don't even recognize who " @dan "  really is? 

Of course there are infinite possibilities. Yet it seems strange nonetheless. 

I will also be interested to see how many people view this post, as it seems like every active user should at least check it out, if not read the whole thing and all comments. This is a very important topic/post from a very influential being. 

It's so interesting to observe the interactions and choices of the masses. 

Thanks for posting your DIRECT responses to statements made,  here on Steemit and putting your words on the blockchain. I feel like I trust you, and that is very comforting.
👍  , , , ,
properties (23)
authorquinneaker
permlinkre-dan-re-eeks-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t064408165z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["dan"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 06:44:09
last_update2017-08-01 06:44:09
depth3
children2
last_payout2017-08-08 06:44:09
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value1.250 HBD
curator_payout_value0.411 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length1,228
author_reputation326,681,856,591,722
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,392,559
net_rshares407,364,977,580
author_curate_reward""
vote details (5)
@demotruk ·
$1.86
We can only measure that by accounts or by stake, not by individual persons. I guess those could probably be answered by a SELECT COUNT() query on SteemSQL.
👍  ,
properties (23)
authordemotruk
permlinkre-eeks-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t140702233z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:07:03
last_update2017-07-31 14:07:03
depth2
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 14:07:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value1.834 HBD
curator_payout_value0.029 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length156
author_reputation279,453,298,745,864
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,323,335
net_rshares458,911,380,719
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@matrixdweller ·
$0.02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzkuJi4FNJs
👍  
properties (23)
authormatrixdweller
permlinkre-demotruk-re-eeks-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t144415258z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["https://img.youtube.com/vi/rzkuJi4FNJs/0.jpg"],"links":["https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzkuJi4FNJs"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:45:03
last_update2017-07-31 14:45:03
depth3
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:45:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.020 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length43
author_reputation-29,653,420,748,873
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,326,588
net_rshares5,306,947,714
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@lukestokes ·
$7.54
I'm actually curious about this... maybe I'll write some code to run through accounts and see who is voting (or has a proxy voter) and who isn't along with their VEST weight. Might be quite an interesting stat indeed.
👍  , , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authorlukestokes
permlinkre-eeks-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t155055464z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:50:54
last_update2017-07-31 15:50:54
depth2
children6
last_payout2017-08-07 15:50:54
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value6.516 HBD
curator_payout_value1.021 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length217
author_reputation556,640,380,599,219
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,331,667
net_rshares1,857,199,866,899
author_curate_reward""
vote details (8)
@eeks ·
$0.03
Yeah, I bring it up because I didn't even know how to for a few months and I'm probably in the top 10% of most tech sophisticated of Steemians if not much higher.  Voter apathy is a big deal and we saw it in TheDAO too, and everything blockchain related.  We're going to see bigtime in Tezos, and then when everyone delegates their votes to a few people, it will be highly centralized in a sticky way, more so than the typical ways that blockchains get centralized (limited clients, limited dev teams, thought leaders, etc).  That's my fear at least.
👍  ,
properties (23)
authoreeks
permlinkre-lukestokes-re-eeks-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t155818439z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:58:18
last_update2017-07-31 15:58:18
depth3
children3
last_payout2017-08-07 15:58:18
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.019 HBD
curator_payout_value0.006 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length550
author_reputation21,536,775,583,000
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,332,236
net_rshares6,784,221,910
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@stellabelle ·
yes
properties (22)
authorstellabelle
permlinkre-lukestokes-re-eeks-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t204107828z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 20:41:06
last_update2017-07-31 20:41:06
depth3
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 20:41:06
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length3
author_reputation516,061,669,130,124
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,352,398
net_rshares0
@lukestokes ·
$2.96
Here's the answer I came up with:

<h3>We Have 7.5% Witness Voting Engagement.</h3>

Inactive Accounts: 178,339
Active Accounts with a Voting Proxy: 652
Active Accounts with at Least One Witness Vote: 7,233
Active Accounts with No Witness Votes: 105,076

You can <a href="https://steemit.com/witness-category/@lukestokes/how-many-steemians-are-not-voting-for-a-witness-i-found-the-answer">see more details on this post</a>, along with the top 100 active accounts by VEST who aren't yet voting for a witness.
👍  , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authorlukestokes
permlinkre-eeks-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t041115790z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"links":["https://steemit.com/witness-category/@lukestokes/how-many-steemians-are-not-voting-for-a-witness-i-found-the-answer"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 04:11:15
last_update2017-08-01 04:11:15
depth2
children1
last_payout2017-08-08 04:11:15
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value2.224 HBD
curator_payout_value0.738 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length507
author_reputation556,640,380,599,219
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,382,745
net_rshares728,726,738,928
author_curate_reward""
vote details (7)
@eeks ·
Matches my expectations.  Great work as always by you.
properties (22)
authoreeks
permlinkre-lukestokes-re-eeks-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t130249598z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 13:02:48
last_update2017-08-01 13:02:48
depth3
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 13:02:48
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length54
author_reputation21,536,775,583,000
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,421,378
net_rshares0
@stealthtrader ·
I just voted for witness's the other day.. check my history :D
properties (22)
authorstealthtrader
permlinkre-eeks-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t151700731z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:17:00
last_update2017-07-31 15:17:00
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 15:17:00
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length62
author_reputation74,266,337,461,760
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,329,044
net_rshares0
@ejemai ·
$0.81
I think we have just found the true and real Ethereum killer. The struggle to discredit EOS is somewhat a cause for Vitalik
👍  
properties (23)
authorejemai
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t041405813z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 04:14:51
last_update2017-08-01 04:14:51
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 04:14:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.609 HBD
curator_payout_value0.202 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length123
author_reputation265,163,230,573,530
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,382,953
net_rshares199,930,403,976
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@elderfinancial ·
$0.67
@dan dropping some truth on this one. It's great to hear straight from the source of how certain accusations of another network are false. Thank you for continuing to be active on the Steemit platform Dan. We appreciate it! Oh and thanks for building it! hahaha
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorelderfinancial
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t133226459z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["dan"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:32:30
last_update2017-07-31 13:32:30
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:32:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.501 HBD
curator_payout_value0.164 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length261
author_reputation2,797,661,705,583
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,320,308
net_rshares163,909,339,613
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@emerge ·
Hey dan! Just want to let you know I support you and everything you believe and work for. Hope EOS gets released soon, can't wait to develop on it and make blockchain work mainstream!
properties (22)
authoremerge
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t173625029z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 17:36:27
last_update2017-07-31 17:36:27
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 17:36:27
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length183
author_reputation2,561,516,158,392
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,339,638
net_rshares0
@eoslinks ·
what happens if vitalik gets a girlfriend?
properties (22)
authoreoslinks
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170823t150427328z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-23 15:04:33
last_update2017-08-23 15:04:33
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-30 15:04:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length42
author_reputation33,912,357,491
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id12,645,778
net_rshares0
@epeakinfo ·
Congratulations!
We have placed your lovely article
https://epeak.info/2017/07/31/response-vitalik-buterin-eos/
Editor Epeak.info
https://steemit.com/@epeakinfo
properties (22)
authorepeakinfo
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t161747556z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"links":["https://epeak.info/2017/07/31/response-vitalik-buterin-eos/","https://steemit.com/@epeakinfo"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 16:25:39
last_update2017-07-31 16:25:39
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 16:25:39
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length160
author_reputation117,317,978,965
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,334,351
net_rshares0
@evelyniroh ·
$0.02
Thank you for all your good work.. People like you is the reason why there is hope for the future. Resteemed
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorevelyniroh
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t133505172z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:35:36
last_update2017-07-31 13:35:36
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:35:36
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.017 HBD
curator_payout_value0.004 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length108
author_reputation11,463,002,243,406
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,320,558
net_rshares5,517,276,653
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@exxodus ·
Still a huge EOS fan. One question.....how are the ERC20 tokens for EOS going to be converted onto the actual EOS blockchain?
👍  
properties (23)
authorexxodus
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170803t180959511z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-03 18:09:51
last_update2017-08-03 18:09:51
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-10 18:09:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length125
author_reputation7,589,375,156,104
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,670,002
net_rshares241,612,800
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@flair ·
"We have already established that Etheruem ..." -> Ethereum :)
properties (22)
authorflair
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t231722993z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 23:17:24
last_update2017-08-01 23:17:24
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 23:17:24
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length62
author_reputation319,224,030
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,477,697
net_rshares0
@flurin ·
where is the picture from about the full nodes? I can't find a source saying that only tw onodes rund over 51%
properties (22)
authorflurin
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20180605t214229813z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2018-06-05 21:42:30
last_update2018-06-05 21:42:30
depth1
children0
last_payout2018-06-12 21:42:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length110
author_reputation1,575,498,420,323
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id59,434,219
net_rshares0
@freakygeak ·
maybe it's just me but that video first lost me when they stopped speaking english until if figured out the caption button but then who ever did the writing ( and yes the people did talk quite fast at times but the text is added in editing mode right ? ) did not put in every word used like one guy said thank you for something and that did not make in the text, also I can see so many enlish teachers from the 70's or 40's either rolling in there graves or shaking heads at the run on sentence or paragraph. I don't think a single period or comma was used and it read like only one person was talking. I had to stop the video at 7:33 because the explanation using burgers confused the heck out of me. :( I hope the people who sat through this understood this talk and came away with good info to use cause I'm just left confused, the only thing I understood was don't over spend when investing. I hope I can better understand the words that fallow the video as I've not read that yet. thanks for sharing
properties (22)
authorfreakygeak
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t163557160z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 16:36:00
last_update2017-08-01 16:36:00
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 16:36:00
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length1,004
author_reputation53,538,025,011
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,442,778
net_rshares0
@getsome3000 ·
$0.08
BTS and Steem each handle more transactions than BTC and ETH combined. Vitalik should be worried.
👍  
properties (23)
authorgetsome3000
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t180919582z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 18:09:18
last_update2017-07-31 18:09:18
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 18:09:18
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.081 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length97
author_reputation149,748,858,995
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,342,101
net_rshares20,421,726,528
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@gokulnk ·
What this means is that Vitalik has concede that EOS can be a challenger for Ethereum. That is a good sign for me :)

All the best @dan. Keep up the good work. Let us hope that <b>The trilogy of Steem, Bitshares and EOS</b> will lead the way forward in Cryptocurrency field.
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorgokulnk
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t140515884z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["dan"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:05:15
last_update2017-07-31 14:05:15
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:05:15
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length274
author_reputation17,871,219,215,380
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,323,176
net_rshares3,127,551,590
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@green21 ·
Interesting post. I will be here to keep on seeing the good news. Thanks for the info.
properties (22)
authorgreen21
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t182035385z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 18:20:39
last_update2017-07-31 18:20:39
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 18:20:39
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length86
author_reputation25,309,283,689
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,342,797
net_rshares0
@hatchi ·
$0.02
@dan isn't Vitalik also a developer of EOS through Fenbushi Capital?
👍  
properties (23)
authorhatchi
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t201100116z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["dan"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 20:11:00
last_update2017-08-01 20:11:00
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 20:11:00
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.022 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length68
author_reputation117,980,692,032
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,463,305
net_rshares5,790,464,033
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@helikopterben ·
$0.03
>Here is the distribution of block producing nodes on Ethereum.

Irrelevant.  Not once did you mention casper, which is all that matters long term in comparison to DPOS.

Also, people with a large stake in the system don't automatically do what is best for the system.  Hitler was a billionaire.
👍  
👎  
properties (23)
authorhelikopterben
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170804t155503955z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-04 15:55:03
last_update2017-08-04 15:55:03
depth1
children1
last_payout2017-08-11 15:55:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.028 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length295
author_reputation8,838,784,970,673
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,763,163
net_rshares7,433,437,604
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@eosfan ·
casper mentioned in 2nd part: https://steemit.com/eos/@dan/reponse-to-vitalik-s-written-remarks

Casper is highly centralized and punishes dissent. Additionally casper distribution was through 72% premine  and ICO - both worst possible methods enforcing centralization further

Finally, casper in no way avoids the same complete eth centralization demonstrated during bailout http://i.imgur.com/IStgCuO.png
properties (22)
authoreosfan
permlinkre-helikopterben-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170925t015559042z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["http://i.imgur.com/IStgCuO.png"],"links":["https://steemit.com/eos/@dan/reponse-to-vitalik-s-written-remarks"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-09-25 01:56:00
last_update2017-09-25 01:56:00
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-10-02 01:56:00
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length406
author_reputation540,339,664,293
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id15,842,846
net_rshares0
@hilarski ·
This Post was Added to the Steemit Social Media Queue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Kep7t5OSY
properties (22)
authorhilarski
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t132920717z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["https://img.youtube.com/vi/j8Kep7t5OSY/0.jpg"],"links":["https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Kep7t5OSY"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:29:21
last_update2017-07-31 13:29:21
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:29:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length98
author_reputation488,873,580,141,533
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,320,062
net_rshares0
@himawariko ·
This gives us one more reason to support the EOS platform.
properties (22)
authorhimawariko
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t143900341z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:39:00
last_update2017-07-31 14:39:00
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:39:00
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length58
author_reputation11,222,625,406
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,326,019
net_rshares0
@hiroyukikomiya · (edited)
Ethereum has been working on improvement with the existing platform and beIng a creater of smart contract. EOS in comparison, has no product/Platform yet whIch gives chance to build better platform based on Ethereum. It is healthy competition I think.  Both can survive if there are different use cases or if they compete on the same, and users will decide. 
I hope both will success! Revolution isn't happening in a short time. Bitcoin took long time to come to effect the idea of digital cash since 90's and it's still not confirmed if it can be used as currency yet.
properties (22)
authorhiroyukikomiya
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t170549055z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 17:05:51
last_update2017-07-31 17:32:18
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 17:05:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length569
author_reputation17,414,006,056
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,337,271
net_rshares0
@jackyx2clic ·
Hey can you help me quickly ! A man give my real identity 
and he DownVote all of my post... his name's Monkyy
👎  
properties (23)
authorjackyx2clic
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t132650132z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:26:51
last_update2017-07-31 13:26:51
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:26:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length110
author_reputation29,521,228,062
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,319,867
net_rshares-12,219,341,911
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@jackyx2clic ·
Hey can you help me quickly ! A man give my real identity https://steemit.com/suisse/@monkrypto/on-me-downvote-sans-raison-2017730t829020z
and he DownVote all of my post... his name's Monkyy
properties (22)
authorjackyx2clic
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t135318540z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"links":["https://steemit.com/suisse/@monkrypto/on-me-downvote-sans-raison-2017730t829020z"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:53:18
last_update2017-07-31 13:53:18
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:53:18
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length190
author_reputation29,521,228,062
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,322,135
net_rshares0
@jigs3716 ·
Hi
This is just the typically dismissive attitude of a complacent incumbent. It's more about psychology than the actual reasoning behind it.
properties (22)
authorjigs3716
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t171138868z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 17:11:21
last_update2017-08-01 17:11:21
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 17:11:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length140
author_reputation115,600,210,863
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,446,054
net_rshares0
@juanjorosale ·
People! This fighting means ETH will get down :/
properties (22)
authorjuanjorosale
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t135307647z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:53:06
last_update2017-07-31 13:53:06
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:53:06
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length48
author_reputation315,776,666,259
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,322,122
net_rshares0
@kimmar ·
$0.26
Dpos is still less decentralized than would be ideal and does not change by pointing at possible problems with other blockchains. Those eth mining pools can consist of hundreds of miners who can switch at a whim.
👍  , ,
properties (23)
authorkimmar
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t154839012z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:48:39
last_update2017-07-31 15:48:39
depth1
children2
last_payout2017-08-07 15:48:39
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.198 HBD
curator_payout_value0.062 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length212
author_reputation51,635,206,939
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,331,500
net_rshares64,397,264,928
author_curate_reward""
vote details (3)
@dan ·
$0.08
And EOS block producers consist of thousands of voters who can switch even faster.
👍  ,
properties (23)
authordan
permlinkre-kimmar-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t160308975z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 16:03:09
last_update2017-07-31 16:03:09
depth2
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 16:03:09
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.060 HBD
curator_payout_value0.017 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length82
author_reputation155,470,101,136,708
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,332,601
net_rshares19,799,793,531
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@kimmar · (edited)
Something to emphasize then instead of pointing fingers. EOS will definitely do great things and find its niche be it the whole world or within corporations.
properties (22)
authorkimmar
permlinkre-dan-re-kimmar-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t161702216z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 16:17:03
last_update2017-07-31 16:18:12
depth3
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 16:17:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length157
author_reputation51,635,206,939
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,333,726
net_rshares0
@kryptokayden ·
I'd put half of my ETH to EOS to avoid FOMO xD
👍  
properties (23)
authorkryptokayden
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t144127490z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:41:33
last_update2017-07-31 14:41:33
depth1
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 14:41:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length46
author_reputation5,403,894,635,578
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,326,252
net_rshares4,327,887,816
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@shareme ·
I put almost all of my Eth in EOS, once the ICO's start cashing out I think Etherieum will crash (which might be a good time to buy)
properties (22)
authorshareme
permlinkre-kryptokayden-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t143801045z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 14:37:51
last_update2017-08-01 14:37:51
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 14:37:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length132
author_reputation2,000,226,178
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,430,559
net_rshares0
@leoledda48 ·
very good, @leoledda48
properties (22)
authorleoledda48
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t141124546z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["leoledda48"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:11:30
last_update2017-07-31 14:11:30
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:11:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length22
author_reputation23,391,848,956
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,323,709
net_rshares0
@lexiconical ·
$0.78
Thanks for making this post. I have been eager to see some comparisons between the two platforms.

Unfortunately, my skill set made this the best way I could contribute to a conversation that began with Merkle Trees:

<center>![Merkel Tree.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmRuke9UpFEpKcp8s17Br2fhpY4hdYSoVskZMXqAA3RNCK/Merkel%20Tree.jpg)</center>
👍  , , , , , , , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authorlexiconical
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t151530306z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["https://steemitimages.com/DQmRuke9UpFEpKcp8s17Br2fhpY4hdYSoVskZMXqAA3RNCK/Merkel%20Tree.jpg"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:15:45
last_update2017-07-31 15:15:45
depth1
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 15:15:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.662 HBD
curator_payout_value0.119 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length346
author_reputation183,198,168,434,738
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,328,962
net_rshares193,198,405,952
author_curate_reward""
vote details (13)
@introvertspeaks ·
Lol, you're so funny @lexiconical. I like you!😁
properties (22)
authorintrovertspeaks
permlinkre-lexiconical-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20180604t133755284z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["lexiconical"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2018-06-04 13:37:57
last_update2018-06-04 13:37:57
depth2
children0
last_payout2018-06-11 13:37:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length47
author_reputation-4,351,658,764,138
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id59,206,153
net_rshares0
@loum ·
Thanks.
properties (22)
authorloum
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t001825192z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 00:18:21
last_update2017-08-01 00:18:21
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 00:18:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length7
author_reputation6,704,515,659,183
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,367,463
net_rshares0
@lukestokes ·
$2.45
I'm impressed with the clarity and rationality you have responding to very intelligent people saying clearly ignorant (or at worse, purposefully false) statements. I hope this information spreads to get around all the FUD. Congrats on the token distribution so far. As I noted in my last EOS post, it may end up being the most widely distributed ICO ever, and you all appear to be hitting your goals nicely.
👍  , , , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authorlukestokes
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t134945573z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:49:45
last_update2017-07-31 13:49:45
depth1
children11
last_payout2017-08-07 13:49:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value1.893 HBD
curator_payout_value0.560 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length407
author_reputation556,640,380,599,219
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,321,803
net_rshares603,671,821,568
author_curate_reward""
vote details (9)
@eeks ·
[Charles Hoskinson, of IOHK and ETC and every single blockchain conference that will allow him to speak, stepped into the fray](https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/6qm0y2/is_the_ethereum_team_defending_their_ground/dkyldrq/):
> Dan's been making these kinds of unqualified statements for years with little tech or reason behind them. There is no formalism to his work nor any justification to his claims.

> Raw performance without explaining what TPS means (not all transactions are created equally). No mention of what these numbers would mean from a network topology and Blockchain size viewpoint. Just 200 million dollars on forked code from bitshares and steem and a lot of promises. 

> I'd honestly ignore it until there is something worthwhile to talk about.
👍  ,
properties (23)
authoreeks
permlinkre-lukestokes-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t142249032z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"links":["https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/6qm0y2/is_the_ethereum_team_defending_their_ground/dkyldrq/"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:22:48
last_update2017-07-31 14:22:48
depth2
children9
last_payout2017-08-07 14:22:48
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length772
author_reputation21,536,775,583,000
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,324,617
net_rshares4,771,346,327
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@iang ·
$1.22
> I'd honestly ignore it until there is something worthwhile to talk about.

Fair enough :-)
👍  
properties (23)
authoriang
permlinkre-eeks-re-lukestokes-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t145744681z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:57:45
last_update2017-07-31 14:57:45
depth3
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 14:57:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value1.175 HBD
curator_payout_value0.044 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length92
author_reputation7,337,084,277,651
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,327,652
net_rshares301,212,375,959
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@lukestokes ·
$1.95
> Dan's been making these kinds of unqualified statements for years with little tech or reason behind them. There is no formalism to his work nor any justification to his claims.

Huh? "little tech or reason behind them"? That's... so confusing to me. How is BitShares and Steem, two of the most performant blockchains in existence today by volume "little tech"? How are these not active justifications for his claims about DPOS?

Maybe I'm just not smart enough to understand the criticisms, but on the surface they seem ridiculous to me. Please help me see what I'm missing.
👍  , ,
properties (23)
authorlukestokes
permlinkre-eeks-re-lukestokes-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t151852414z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:18:51
last_update2017-07-31 15:18:51
depth3
children6
last_payout2017-08-07 15:18:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value1.466 HBD
curator_payout_value0.485 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length576
author_reputation556,640,380,599,219
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,329,181
net_rshares481,939,168,358
author_curate_reward""
vote details (3)
@sacred-agent · (edited)
$0.04
Thank You Dan & Luke, I trust You both & have watched most, if not all of the videos with Dan.

I'm hoping someday that Dan may meet www.EllenBrown.com , she is one of the smartest people I know regarding Banking AND actually offers SOLUTIONS for Central Banks/Fractional Reserve Banks... obviously she is not a program coder, but she could well offer some guidance regarding governance. 

Her book www.WebOfDebt.com is outstanding...

She's a lawyer by training & one of the more polite people You might meet. 

BIG Kudos to Both You & Dan... Cheers !!
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorsacred-agent
permlinkre-lukestokes-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t150101357z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:01:03
last_update2017-07-31 15:09:15
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 15:01:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.043 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length553
author_reputation4,833,164,215,661
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,327,903
net_rshares11,063,195,447
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@markceliz ·
Very interesting article. While reading this I remember the movie "The Nerve"
properties (22)
authormarkceliz
permlinkre-dan-2017731t215452966z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":"eos","app":"esteem/1.4.6","format":"markdown+html","community":"esteem"}
created2017-07-31 13:55:00
last_update2017-07-31 13:55:00
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:55:00
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length77
author_reputation123,178,603,441
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries
0.
accountesteemapp
weight500
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,322,312
net_rshares0
@matrixdweller ·
$0.02
Legalize drugs making black markets obsolete,
👍  
properties (23)
authormatrixdweller
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t134812765z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:49:03
last_update2017-07-31 13:49:03
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:49:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.022 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length45
author_reputation-29,653,420,748,873
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,321,747
net_rshares5,812,371,305
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@matt-a ·
Absolutely excellent response(s), @dan.  This is how you properly ensure a revolution keeps its footing and trudges progressively into the future.

Major respect.  Keep up the good work.  This is the "good fight."
properties (22)
authormatt-a
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t205750954z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["dan"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 20:58:03
last_update2017-07-31 20:58:03
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 20:58:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length213
author_reputation34,621,295,577,150
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,353,678
net_rshares0
@mrgreen ·
https://s1.postimg.org/hflwk39wv/ezgif.com-video-to-gif.gif

https://steemit.com/renderlovers/@mrgreen/b-ts-boy-fighting
properties (22)
authormrgreen
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t185856159z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["https://s1.postimg.org/hflwk39wv/ezgif.com-video-to-gif.gif"],"links":["https://steemit.com/renderlovers/@mrgreen/b-ts-boy-fighting"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 18:59:15
last_update2017-08-01 18:59:15
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 18:59:15
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length120
author_reputation23,106,142,389,321
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,457,287
net_rshares0
@musicholic ·
Thanks Dan!!!
properties (22)
authormusicholic
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t143148083z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:31:54
last_update2017-07-31 14:31:54
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:31:54
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length13
author_reputation27,234,586,960,280
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,325,367
net_rshares0
@mylord · (edited)
What about *RANDOM* voting for delegates?

That seems to fix these delegation problems. Not only does it fix the low-participation vote problem, but also makes it so you can’t even choose your vote for a delegate, so can’t choose yourself. 

What’s wrong with *randomly* voted-in delegates to fix these dPoS problems?
properties (22)
authormylord
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170924t235007803z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-09-24 23:50:06
last_update2017-09-25 02:04:48
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-10-01 23:50:06
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length317
author_reputation51,690,083
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id15,836,905
net_rshares0
@nancyyepes ·
Congratulations for your excellent post, I invite you to follow us and we grow faster, greetings
properties (22)
authornancyyepes
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t154518605z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:45:12
last_update2017-07-31 15:45:12
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 15:45:12
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length96
author_reputation35,252,618,721
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,331,242
net_rshares0
@nick300 ·
If people are still wondering how big EOS is, just read Dan's quote on the matter.
EOS Telegram chat Daniel Larimer himself pretty much summed it up with this, "EOS can run ETH inside a single contract ;)
https://steemit.com/eos/@bbrewer/eos-vs-eth-summed-up-in-a-few-words-by-daniel-larimer
properties (22)
authornick300
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20180221t001246465z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"links":["https://steemit.com/eos/@bbrewer/eos-vs-eth-summed-up-in-a-few-words-by-daniel-larimer"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2018-02-21 00:12:45
last_update2018-02-21 00:12:45
depth1
children0
last_payout2018-02-28 00:12:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length291
author_reputation5,762,616,067
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id39,199,922
net_rshares0
@padmakshi ·
interesting article
properties (22)
authorpadmakshi
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t141958444z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:20:00
last_update2017-07-31 14:20:00
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:20:00
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length19
author_reputation1,095,407,523,576
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,324,404
net_rshares0
@pastzam ·
$0.28
fight fight
![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmeJnt3VyzEjYzUsGEiiYAHv9NEHUfEkJZq9owGEA9oLWu/image.png)
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorpastzam
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t190332841z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["https://steemitimages.com/DQmeJnt3VyzEjYzUsGEiiYAHv9NEHUfEkJZq9owGEA9oLWu/image.png"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 19:03:33
last_update2017-07-31 19:03:33
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 19:03:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.210 HBD
curator_payout_value0.068 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length100
author_reputation2,315,182,613,022
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,345,549
net_rshares69,243,582,724
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@pijushmitra ·
Why two genius always oppose! I think @dan is the front runner this time.
properties (22)
authorpijushmitra
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t191156370z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["dan"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 19:11:57
last_update2017-07-31 19:11:57
depth1
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 19:11:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length73
author_reputation694,028,189,444
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,346,098
net_rshares0
@josephd ·
$0.02
"two"
👍  
properties (23)
authorjosephd
permlinkre-pijushmitra-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t081128908z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 08:11:27
last_update2017-08-01 08:11:27
depth2
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 08:11:27
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.019 HBD
curator_payout_value0.005 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length5
author_reputation1,477,494,490,230
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,398,458
net_rshares6,500,978,394
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@pnc · (edited)
Yep ! I myself, not being an engineer could challenge Vitalik on some of his point regarding government easily shutting dowm EOS or Steem node... so trivial. I notice a lot  non consistent argument in the Bitcoin & Ethereum Community...VB is a highly talented but too much mathematics, cryptographics and politics in could kill the projet
properties (22)
authorpnc
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t210244848z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 21:02:51
last_update2017-07-31 21:34:54
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 21:02:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length338
author_reputation31,810,381,051,518
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,354,049
net_rshares0
@progressivechef ·
Hello @dan, actually I have been researching a bit deeper in Ethereum these days (Well I am quite a newbie on all these crypto world, am sorry for that) and I would just have your feedback about a big news currently the talk of the town in Mauritius, have you guys heard about **Ethereum Island?** 
I have made a post on it and apparently it is going forward with many meetings already been held in Mauritius!
You can check it here if you wish 
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@progressivechef/first-ethereum-island-in-the-world-mauritius-may-soon-be-one
Best regards
@progressivechef
properties (22)
authorprogressivechef
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t160814588z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["dan","progressivechef"],"links":["https://steemit.com/blockchain/@progressivechef/first-ethereum-island-in-the-world-mauritius-may-soon-be-one"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 16:08:15
last_update2017-07-31 16:08:15
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 16:08:15
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length583
author_reputation192,478,961,270,930
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,333,000
net_rshares0
@pugriffs ·
I  view ether as gas where there won't be a reason to hold an amount other than what may be required to perform transactions for other alt-coins, EOS startup tokens, etc that one may be holding.
properties (22)
authorpugriffs
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170805t014457897z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-05 01:44:57
last_update2017-08-05 01:44:57
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-12 01:44:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length194
author_reputation34,869,992,091
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,807,380
net_rshares0
@quiuquio ·
The answer to “more centralized than what[?]” is definitely not the current pool mined, PoW based reality of Ethereum. I think it was quite clear that Vitalik was comparing DPoS to what will be ethereum's own PoS when Casper is out.

Comparing DPoS to the current state of ethereum is similar to saying:

"A startup named 'Space EOS' is working towards building rockets that can go to Mars. Current rockets made by 'Space XTH' can only reach the moon. Then, 'Space EOS' is much better than Space XTH"
properties (22)
authorquiuquio
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t051618487z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 05:16:18
last_update2017-08-01 05:16:18
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 05:16:18
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length500
author_reputation17,863,275
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,386,887
net_rshares0
@rayzh ·
all of these chains will be shut down as they are the addtional layer to the ISP layer
properties (22)
authorrayzh
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20180404t201636180z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2018-04-04 20:16:57
last_update2018-04-04 20:16:57
depth1
children0
last_payout2018-04-11 20:16:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length86
author_reputation19,183,991
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id48,360,855
net_rshares0
@rayzh ·
smart on hacking/algorithm, stupid in governmental policies, finance and other things, all of you including BM and Vita
properties (22)
authorrayzh
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20180404t204555343z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2018-04-04 20:46:15
last_update2018-04-04 20:46:15
depth1
children0
last_payout2018-04-11 20:46:15
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length119
author_reputation19,183,991
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id48,364,207
net_rshares0
@ritikch ·
nice post follow me i will follow you back
properties (22)
authorritikch
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t031839150z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:18:21
last_update2017-07-31 15:18:21
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 15:18:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length42
author_reputation-1,532,235,671
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,329,141
net_rshares0
@royschuh ·
$0.02
I had my doubts about EOS with the us ip block and the EOS fake scammer sites in the beginning and I backed off. But recently poured 30% of my ETH holding in EOS until June of next year, I see at least a 500% growth in that time.

Great post Dan!
👍  , ,
👎  
properties (23)
authorroyschuh
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t133732919z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:37:30
last_update2017-07-31 13:37:30
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:37:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.020 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length246
author_reputation1,126,660,274,850
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,320,732
net_rshares5,580,066,899
author_curate_reward""
vote details (4)
@rxhussain ·
I need your moral support I'm new here..
Followed Voted Done Please give back Follow for help
https://media.tenor.com/images/2cfcc4fff02b694afabd9929534199a1/tenor.gif
👍  
👎  
properties (23)
authorrxhussain
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t161753136z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"image":["https://media.tenor.com/images/2cfcc4fff02b694afabd9929534199a1/tenor.gif"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 16:17:57
last_update2017-07-31 16:17:57
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 16:17:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length167
author_reputation-2,663,491,160,194
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,333,802
net_rshares-167,080,183,433,143
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@safwaninisam ·
Please help me, upvote and resteem my post...
https://steemit.com/indonesia/@safwaninisam/bursa-transfer-2017-2018-201788t52610841z

Regards 
***@safwaninisam***
properties (22)
authorsafwaninisam
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170808t070132205z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["safwaninisam"],"links":["https://steemit.com/indonesia/@safwaninisam/bursa-transfer-2017-2018-201788t52610841z"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-08 07:01:33
last_update2017-08-08 07:01:33
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-15 07:01:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length161
author_reputation5,458,782,848,371
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id11,140,892
net_rshares0
@salvis ·
$0.14
Thx for sharing
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorsalvis
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t100307752z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 10:03:12
last_update2017-08-01 10:03:12
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 10:03:12
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.105 HBD
curator_payout_value0.032 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length15
author_reputation520,117,508,798
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,406,206
net_rshares33,912,627,880
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@seranium ·
For a human being to start pointing the negative about something new is ALWAYS because of fear. EOS is shaping to be what Ethereum promised with its idea. 

He is afraid that the potential of EOS is enormous and may kick ETH out of the game, or take a big chunk of its pie.
properties (22)
authorseranium
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t190344580z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 19:03:45
last_update2017-07-31 19:03:45
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 19:03:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length273
author_reputation13,398,093,881
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,345,560
net_rshares0
@skycornish ·
$0.29
LOL. I just sold some more ETH for EOS.  Keep it up @dan!
👍  
properties (23)
authorskycornish
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170801t190949798z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"users":["dan"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-01 19:09:45
last_update2017-08-01 19:09:45
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-08 19:09:45
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.216 HBD
curator_payout_value0.071 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length57
author_reputation2,169,519,497,809
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,458,158
net_rshares71,293,330,391
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@southerncross · (edited)
$0.31
Now don't get me wrong here people I like the concept of EOS and own a bit myself.

But... EOS itself does not exist yet, and is actually run on the Ethereum network platform for now right ? EOS' ICO only takes Ethereum as a form of trade/payment as well.

A decentralized platform is not helped at all by centralizing the nodes needed to confirm a transaction, no matter how many transactions are able to take place.  Buterin does have a point here whether you like it or not and i don't see it so much as an attack but rather a credible criticism. 

You can use all manner of meaningful criticisms you like  but DPOS still reduces the overall number of points in the overall system that need to be coerced or corrupted to gain control of the network and/or cause harm to it. 
Your 51% graph posted above does not take into account the numerous individuals within those pools that make up those pools, as opposed to just a hundred or so individual nodes as proposed in the DPOS network for EOS.

Vitalek Buterin is a very smart individual, as also is Dan Larimer and I would not want to bet against either of them in this game, and I don't as a matter of fact. I back both as much as I can. 

But I do wonder why Buterin is still there with Ethereum and from the start, and Larimer keeps on moving on from one to the other instead of staying with a project. 

Again I do like the concept of EOS and have sunk a lot of funds into it as well, but why is it run on the ETH platform if it is supposed to be an ETH KILLER ? 
Why not get it up and running and give it 'Proof of Life' before raising over $200,000, 000 on the initial offering and then have a 12 month ICO before it is even a thing ?  

Ethereum is often said to have scaling issues, but if you actually take a proper look at how ETH's transactions work you will find that they scale quite well as they are needed to as do the transaction fees. 

Ethereum Killer ? ? ? Maybe in the future, but the first positive proof of that will be for EOS to leave the Ethereum Platform successfully.
👍  , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authorsoutherncross
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t141608142z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:16:15
last_update2017-07-31 14:18:09
depth1
children19
last_payout2017-08-07 14:16:15
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.233 HBD
curator_payout_value0.072 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length2,047
author_reputation59,563,098,676
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,324,119
net_rshares75,677,123,983
author_curate_reward""
vote details (7)
@dan ·
$29.50
Draw a map of points that need to be corrupted to compromise a network and/or cause harm and I assure you ETH has fewer points of corruption.   Namely, I would corrupt the operators of the two largest pools and get a 51% attack.

ETH is delegated proof of work with 7 meaningfully elected positions with 2 controlling 51%

ETH recommends 12 confirmations, in a window of 12 blocks 7 will be produced by 2 people and the other 5 will be produced by 5 people for an average of 7 unique individuals confirming a transaction.  

The economics of block production on ETH falls off dramatically once the number of blocks produced per day falls below the cost of operating a node.  EOS and STEEM both have the same trail off on the long-tail which means that economically speaking, the total number of block producers will be the same in both systems.  The difference is that DPOS makes sure the top 21 are all unique and equally weighted in each confirmation window (45 seconds) vs unequally weighted in each ETH confirmation window (3 minutes).

So do the math, their claims of decentralization and/or centralization are entirely bogus and unfounded.
👍  , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,
properties (23)
authordan
permlinkre-southerncross-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t142951124z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:29:51
last_update2017-07-31 14:29:51
depth2
children9
last_payout2017-08-07 14:29:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value24.251 HBD
curator_payout_value5.249 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length1,145
author_reputation155,470,101,136,708
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,325,186
net_rshares7,273,968,683,073
author_curate_reward""
vote details (29)
@kimmar ·
Fenbushi invested in EOS with a reason I guess?
👍  
properties (23)
authorkimmar
permlinkre-dan-re-southerncross-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t155646815z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:56:48
last_update2017-07-31 15:56:48
depth3
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 15:56:48
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length47
author_reputation51,635,206,939
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,332,115
net_rshares0
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@southerncross ·
$0.07
The fact remains though that the narrower the points you place trust/confirmations in the chain the more chance there is of corruption or coercion. In your example you point to the 'operators' of said two pools while ignoring the makeup of said pools which could number in the thousands instead of the minimal numbers which would exist with DPOS, the math might be enticing but there is no way around the actual numbers which will confirm the overall chain history. You also ignore the ability of Ethereum transactions to increase with increased demand on the network as well. 

No one I have asked the question of about EOS only existing on the Ethereum network as it exists now has answered that question either. 
I don't want to fight with you people, I am one of you if you hadn't noticed . I have a couple of grand $AU invested already, but I do think that I have some legitimate questions to ask at least. 

Why is EOS totally dependent on Ethereum to exist right now for a start ?
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorsoutherncross
permlinkre-dan-re-southerncross-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t152958763z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:30:06
last_update2017-07-31 15:30:06
depth3
children7
last_payout2017-08-07 15:30:06
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.056 HBD
curator_payout_value0.016 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length987
author_reputation59,563,098,676
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,330,015
net_rshares17,953,851,950
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@demotruk · (edited)
$0.09
>Your 51% graph posted above does not take into account the numerous individuals within those pools that make up those pools

Who are you referring to, the miners? Miners are no more involved in block production in Ethereum than stakeholders are in Steem and BitShares. The direct equivalent of Witnesses in Ethereum, those producing blocks, are the pool *operators*. Just like witnesses they can be multiple people in practice, but they function as a single entity. In practice there are more individual block producing entities in any given time frame in the DPOS blockchains than in any of the PoW or direct PoS blockchains.

As a result your prior statement is untrue, when measured empirically:

>DPOS still reduces the overall number of points in the overall system that need to be coerced or corrupted to gain control of the network and/or cause harm to it.
👍  , , ,
properties (23)
authordemotruk
permlinkre-southerncross-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t142409911z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:24:09
last_update2017-07-31 14:26:27
depth2
children6
last_payout2017-08-07 14:24:09
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.066 HBD
curator_payout_value0.020 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length864
author_reputation279,453,298,745,864
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,324,729
net_rshares21,484,337,421
author_curate_reward""
vote details (4)
@southerncross ·
$0.06
The mining pools referred to above are made up of many individuals rather than voted for 'Nodes'.  They may act as a single entity but only up to the point of their own self interest. And please tell me again what is the difference between thousands deciding on an outcome rather than hundreds deciding an outcome for everyone else concerned, other than a concentration of opinion and self interest ? 

I am only approaching this from the point of view of liking the decentralization aspect of the blockchain, and I don't see EOS as embracing this aspect with it's centralized Nodes at all. 

The future and the people will decide the eventual outcome in the end, but all the Ethereum Killer hype and bluster for what is now an ERC-20 token based solely and distributed solely for Ethereum alone is a bit of a story in itself for now. 

I am not a hater at all, I just have questions is all, I own some EOS and am Intrigued by it's promises, but just don't get people buying it at $1.70 right now on exchanges when they can get it for less than .70 each day from the ICO right now.
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorsoutherncross
permlinkre-demotruk-re-southerncross-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t155120699z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 15:51:30
last_update2017-07-31 15:51:30
depth3
children5
last_payout2017-08-07 15:51:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.044 HBD
curator_payout_value0.013 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length1,081
author_reputation59,563,098,676
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,331,708
net_rshares14,649,903,884
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@kenn · (edited)
$0.05
Good points, but I would like to correct you that EOS is an application platform itself and does not run on the Ethereum platform. Only the current EOS token is being distributed on the Ethereum platform because they're trying to keep EOS hands off, maintenance-free during development. 

---

That's mostly what I want to say. More description below of my understanding if you want to read:

---

1. Why have a token on Ethereum platform?
   - This was a decision by block.one for optimal development progress. If they launched EOS platform and distributed tokens on the EOS platform, development speed will slow down dramatically due to maintenance of the platform. Making changes at that point becomes more difficult because once applications start using the EOS platform, EOS has to keep their users in mind for every change it wants to make. 

2. Then why have ICO over 12 month period now instead of after launch? 
   - The current 12 month ICO is just a preliminary spreading of the seeds. Other ICOs do it too, crowdfund with little more than a whitepaper and promises. At least EOS is backed with years of knowledge from block.one and technology of Bitshares and Steem. They don't need the money and its purpose is not crowdfunding. Its purpose is to broadly distribute the tokens for a fair, decentralized platform. It's also to provide publicity of the platform and time for the community to be familiarized with the project. Someone could technically write an application using the EOS platform before the launch and have it ready by the time EOS is launched. The ICO lasts a year because it mimics mining and makes it harder for whales to snatch better investments than everyone else.

3. Will it be an Ethereum killer?
   - No one can say for sure. EOS, being an application platform, directly competes with Ethereum, but it depends on the technology of each and users of the platforms. If companies adopt the Ethereum platform for their smart contracts, but discover limitations, then discover that EOS does not have those limitations, then yes, EOS has the potential to be an Ethereum killer but who knows. These limitations are theoretical at this point since EOS hasn't launched yet, but the underlying technology of EOS seems sound to me. Others can fill you in here. But Ethereum can make a comeback. It's just unlikely for it to adopt large changes to the platform at this point since it already has many users and #2 market cap. Any changes Ethereum wants to make at this point has a lot of weight and a lot of consideration needs to be made. EOS can make any changes on the fly since it hasn't launched yet. This is why it's so important for EOS to continue development for a year, even though it could be launched now.

4. Then is it good idea to invest in EOS?
   - Depends how much you trust them, in the terms, this current token on the Ethereum blockchain states: "EOS Tokens do not have any rights, uses, purpose, attributes, functionalities or features, express or implied. Although EOS Tokens may be tradable, they are not an investment, currency, security, commodity, a swap on a currency, security or commodity or any other kind of financial instrument." 
This may just be a technicality because they can't promise anything, but if these tokens CAN'T be traded for EOS tokens on the EOS Platform or have any value attached to the EOS Platform, then we might be screwed over. But otherwise, in my opinion yes, EOS is a good investment, maybe not the best, the potential for profit and ROI may not be astronomical like Ethereum was, but I believe EOS is still undervalued in the long-term. If EOS, after token distribution is done, ever becomes a tenth of what Ethereum is today, then if you bought in now, you would begin to profit. Personally I would either get in now for short-term investment because many people transferred large amounts of altcoins to BTC for the free BCC (Bitcoin Cash), and are likely to transfer back to altcoin after this, so I would expect altcoins to rise a bit in a few days (just my unprofessional speculation), or I would wait at least a few months since we might be on a decline and end of a bull run in the crypto space (again, speculation), but I wouldn't be surprised, especially with the 12-month distribution strategy, for EOS to drop further in value this year. Especially next year as EOS nears launch and people start questioning what this this token is worth since they claim in the terms that it has no value. On the other hand, even though EOS is competing with Ethereum, as an investor, I would consider investing in both Ethereum and EOS. If you believe in the application platform technology, it doesn't matter which one wins out, you'll profit because one will skyrocket.
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorkenn
permlinkre-southerncross-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t194926603z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 19:49:27
last_update2017-08-01 17:22:27
depth2
children1
last_payout2017-08-07 19:49:27
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.038 HBD
curator_payout_value0.010 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length4,750
author_reputation6,308,452,877
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,348,758
net_rshares12,238,094,595
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@lexiconical ·
Great stuff, thank you.
properties (22)
authorlexiconical
permlinkre-kenn-re-southerncross-re-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170804t170634302z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-08-04 17:06:57
last_update2017-08-04 17:06:57
depth3
children0
last_payout2017-08-11 17:06:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length23
author_reputation183,198,168,434,738
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,769,492
net_rshares0
@stellabelle ·
Dan this is so genius. Your thoughts are yunk! I appreciate you educating us on this and I'd love to see a pie chart of Steem DPOS hashing power...
properties (22)
authorstellabelle
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t203843903z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 20:38:42
last_update2017-07-31 20:38:42
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 20:38:42
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length147
author_reputation516,061,669,130,124
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,352,213
net_rshares0
@stokjockey ·
As a recent buyer of EOS and a fan of all Crypto. I would not be to worried about EOS. If anything with EOS right on Ethereums tail I think that Vitalik is somewhat concerned. He should be because if anyone has better tech they will improve the token for everyone.
properties (22)
authorstokjockey
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t135330165z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:53:33
last_update2017-07-31 13:53:33
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:53:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length264
author_reputation128,170,335,670,725
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,322,156
net_rshares0
@tarekadam ·
It is always good to hear two sides of a story and I am really thankful that you addressed the points from Vitalik. Thanks for your response, this really increases my faith in the usability and advantages of EOS.
👍  
properties (23)
authortarekadam
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t144851156z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 14:48:51
last_update2017-07-31 14:48:51
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 14:48:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length212
author_reputation50,131,776,387,207
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,326,934
net_rshares2,524,680,607
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@teamsteem ·
Very nice and much needed response. I'll make sure to take a look at these other posts you mentioned at the end.
properties (22)
authorteamsteem
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t133705062z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:37:03
last_update2017-07-31 13:37:03
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:37:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length112
author_reputation284,804,541,406,803
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,320,691
net_rshares0
@vander ·
Good read, but remember at one point gold was outlawed in USA! So crypto might become illegal just for the sake of central banks!
properties (22)
authorvander
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t202344234z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 20:23:51
last_update2017-07-31 20:23:51
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 20:23:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length129
author_reputation20,729,326,154,850
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,351,150
net_rshares0
@wakeupworldnews · (edited)
$0.03
Thanks Dan, dont stress about the nay sayers the proof will be in the pudding!! keep on trucking mate!
i love the idea behind EOS so much i wrote an article on it what do you think? https://steemit.com/eos/@wakeupworldnews/why-i-am-going-all-in-on-eos-and-past-crypro-ventures-2017726t9951351z
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorwakeupworldnews
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t133333992z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1","links":["https://steemit.com/eos/@wakeupworldnews/why-i-am-going-all-in-on-eos-and-past-crypro-ventures-2017726t9951351z"]}
created2017-07-31 13:34:00
last_update2017-07-31 13:42:33
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:34:00
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.030 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length293
author_reputation5,824,374,986,847
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,320,419
net_rshares7,603,240,816
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@williamningli ·
Im on this boat too
properties (22)
authorwilliamningli
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t234231100z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 23:42:27
last_update2017-07-31 23:42:27
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 23:42:27
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length19
author_reputation129,450,341
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,365,335
net_rshares0
@xgrosz ·
$0.11
Does this mean that Vitalik  does not know much about EOS yet? - this is what it looks to me like he is kinda making up some what he says hmmmm
👍  , ,
properties (23)
authorxgrosz
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t181729358z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 18:17:30
last_update2017-07-31 18:17:30
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 18:17:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.100 HBD
curator_payout_value0.008 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length143
author_reputation4,460,308,564,830
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,342,628
net_rshares27,231,150,888
author_curate_reward""
vote details (3)
@yukimaru ·
Thank you sir for correcting these points based on real facts.
TBH i don't know where is he getting these "assumptions."
More power to EOS!

(He still creeps me out... -_-)
properties (22)
authoryukimaru
permlinkre-dan-response-to-vitalik-buterin-on-eos-20170731t133912581z
categoryeos
json_metadata{"tags":["eos"],"app":"steemit/0.1"}
created2017-07-31 13:39:30
last_update2017-07-31 13:39:30
depth1
children0
last_payout2017-08-07 13:39:30
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length172
author_reputation34,898,291,077,761
root_title"Response to Vitalik Buterin on EOS"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id10,320,890
net_rshares0