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You can buy and account with anonymous tokens or you can mine an account. If you want a free handout of $5 worth of Steem Power then expect some protections. Also, for security purposes (hacked account recovery) a means of communicating is necessary. For 99% of people this system works.
| author | dantheman |
|---|---|
| permlink | re-apertus-cogitari-re-dantheman-re-the-ego-is-you-re-dantheman-the-problem-with-byzantine-generals-20170131t191707289z |
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It's good to have the advanced user options you mention, but they sound cumbersome and impractical. Hundreds of thousands of participants are being forced into a position of having th buy their freedom in order to make the spam-fight a little more convenient for a few admins, no? Some questions: * How does one get anonymous tokens? For existing users who need profile division, obviously anonymous tokens cannot draw from their existing account (it would defeat the purpose). It would be very cumbersome and also costly to deposit cash into a bitcoin ATM to seed this account, many of which require id anyway (a non-starter). * Can the proof-of-work from the mining be transmitted entirely over Tor? * The 5 dollar barrier-to-entry you mention is a bit excessive for contributors who are not participating for the money-centric aspects. That's a lot of money in some countries. 25 cents would be sufficient to make spam uninteresting. Why not lower the barrier-to-entry so users don't need to rent a server farm to get a libre account? (libre meaning freedom from privacy compromise) The current model effectively encourages users to trade their privacy for time or money. That's also a problem because it victimizes the naΓ―ve -- those unaware of the compromise they're making, and those who won't discover they need privacy until it's too late and the information disclosure is used against them.
| author | apertus-cogitari |
|---|---|
| permlink | re-dantheman-re-apertus-cogitari-re-dantheman-re-the-ego-is-you-re-dantheman-the-problem-with-byzantine-generals-20170131t201635717z |
| category | blockchain |
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Seems like it might be worth just charging the $5 for the account creation. If blocking the spammers makes it that much harder for new users to get in it's hardly worth it.
| author | beanz |
|---|---|
| permlink | re-dantheman-re-apertus-cogitari-re-dantheman-re-the-ego-is-you-re-dantheman-the-problem-with-byzantine-generals-20170131t232628856z |
| category | blockchain |
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| created | 2017-01-31 23:26:36 |
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$5 is extortionate. That's a weeks wage in some parts of the world. A moderate user (say 1 or 2 blogs/week) needs ~5-10 accounts just to get a basic level of anonymous identity division (thus upwards of $25). Not to mention the time and effort of getting the right form of anonymous money. This overkill is being imposed on hundreds of thousands of users for the convenience of a few admins. It's not worth it. The high price in time and money has made the system inadequate for anonymous blogging. Users will pay the price in freedom instead.
| author | apertus-cogitari |
|---|---|
| permlink | re-beanz-re-dantheman-re-apertus-cogitari-re-dantheman-re-the-ego-is-you-re-dantheman-the-problem-with-byzantine-generals-20170201t102252019z |
| category | blockchain |
| json_metadata | {"tags":["blockchain"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
| created | 2017-02-01 10:23:00 |
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Please read my latest post https://steemit.com/busy/@busy.org/busy-official-public-beta-release-release-note-known-issues-what-s-next#@freeyourmind/re-ekitcho-re-freeyourmind-re-busyorg-busy-official-public-beta-release-release-note-known-issues-what-s-next-20170202t234123600z I think it's important that users are able to opt out of the multiple beneficiary payout enhancement scheme if they wish. Otherwise this feature will turn the entire ecosystem into a giant corporatocracy. I would like to hear your thought about this.
| author | freeyourmind |
|---|---|
| permlink | re-dantheman-re-apertus-cogitari-re-dantheman-re-the-ego-is-you-re-dantheman-the-problem-with-byzantine-generals-20170203t000550900z |
| category | blockchain |
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