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RE: Self Voting - Ego Voting by davidnx

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· @davidnx · (edited)
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I think that being able to vote on one's own post is an essential part of SteemIt. The idea that SteemIt is based purely on altruistism is simply not true.
For example, I am not going to invest in Steem Power just for the fun of it, and I can also see others being discouraged from doing so.

People seem to forget that money IS at the center o SteemIt, however much some people try to pretend otherwise - mainly those who are already earning good money.

If the community reaches consensus in banning something, it should be done in agreement with the SteemIt developer/team and should be hard-wired into the interface. We shouldn't have all these bots running about, punishing people for doing something which many find acceptable.
An example of this is the proposed bot to flag people for voting on their own comments.

I do understand that voting on your own comments can cause problems - but bots are not the answer!
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@camb ·
I completely agree.
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@kozan ·
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I think there is a truth in what @davidnx has said. People who use steemit are more likely to focus on the money aspect as compared with facebook, I think brings about a different motive.

Facebook users want to feel loved and that people are there. On steemit I see people put up such long posts in the hope it will bring them a good amount of money for that text but then often find that it doesn't and here is where you will find people striving to increase income. The popularity of randowhale shows this. I think it is a natural thing to do, to want more and that is where the magic of innovation and entrepreneurship happens to discover that. That system is the blockchain itself and that is how wars are solved to peace. Though not everyone thinks like that and I am sure there are altruistic people on steemit. If everyone suffers for the good of the system, I believe is a communistic philosophy not one of progress.

The key is the preservation of the blockchain not what happens in it (when you consider real time - decades).

I think that is the danger of the lynch mobs. I have seen in a different area where same thing has happened. Even the government has made reports about this other thing where it has said that it could transform the 3rd world, but by the attitude of the owners, it has made the 3rd world still stay limited while it is happily taking home multi millions of dollars while allowing a sort of slave trade happening in the 3rd world.

Keep in mind that people viewed steemit as a scam that benefited the early adopters and makers more than the rest that is coming in now.

It can be part of the problem of making people slaves or it can help create free people who are actually living free.

Overall I think this is a personal preference of how want to approach things. I think the problem becomes when people say this is how everyone is going to do it because of a personal view, because then fallen into the same problems many people who use places like payment gateways and popular ecommerce site that suddenly destroys the persons livelihood without considering the consequences. Same goes for a lot of places that hold such a huge responsibility, often it causes much problems as in the case of facebook and the need for people to break away and so we have steemit.

Could any of the actions bring far reaching harm and devastation to any one person? Could it become slavery, people earn only few hundred dollars per year working long hours that doesn't pay off, while steemit classes itself a success. Exactly what we see with one social network vs a search engines model to people, where one is a benefit and one is slavery without any remittance?

What could change the world, soon will fall into a small site if it can't cater for everyone's needs.

What is the base aspect of steemit? Content. I think that is what matters. Everything else is to bring people to the party. Does it really matter if someone upvotes their own post in the great picture of things.

In light of this, I am considering becoming a witness with the plain view that everyone is free as long as not trying to bring down the network. And if anyone has an issue with content, they can use their organization to downvote things or upvote things and others have a right to do same for preservation of their views.

Note, don't vote for me as witness, everything with that would have to be done by TAM-LBTC.

Appreciate this post, but also says the points need to consider about witnesses. I don't know the extent of what a witness can do apart from host the blockchain.
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@camb ·
Nicely put. You obviously have deep thoughts and opinions about Steem and community networking. You should definitely consider becoming a witness. I enjoy your thoughts.
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@kozan ·
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ty @camb. This is how we find the solutions, all putting our input to find the best solutions. Deep thoughts and opinions I think comes with making sure bitcoin and crypto becomes the fullest vision to benefit the whole of humanity.

Create a great day,
@kozan
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@davidnx ·
Just to say, I was being very blunt in my comment of the money aspect, which would have made it very easy to attack.
Thank you for 'softening' it a bit.
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@camb ·
Your points about the money aspect are valid. Sometimes the community has to try to make up for "bumpy network logic" by agreeing on certain behavior. Open discussion is the only way to advance :)
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