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The Amateur Mycologist - Random Find - An Obscure Russula - In Depth Analysis Points Towards Possible Russula redolens - Less Likely R.parazurea by dber

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 ![image](https://img.esteem.ws/jam0zdt5w7.jpg)

## This one is a head scratcher

Found this cryptic little fellow growing all by its lonesome in a well manicured green space near an apartment building. 

Spoiler alert - I think this mushroom might be a species called [Russula parazurea](http://www.first-nature.com/fungi/russula-parazurea.php). This would be unremarkable if the species wasn't fairly obscure and located primarily across the Atlantic. However, the macro characteristics of this mushroom so line up with the descriptions I've found for R.parazurea that I'm having a hard time coming to any other conclusion.

#### So, lets work through my logic. As I unveil details of this mushroom, compare them to the details in the linked to website.

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 ![image](https://img.esteem.ws/905pe3z4qk.jpg)

## First, the obvious details

The mushroom has a soft, suedish looking matte gray cap. It was growing within a bed of woodchips, but also nearby several old growth deciduous trees. Convex to flat. Some detritus on top, but the fresh cap is dry to the touch.

#### Let's flip him over

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 ![image](https://img.esteem.ws/9zs6ul86pz.jpg)

## Beautiful, whitish cream gills

Fairly crowded, with a similarly colored stem. No partial veil or annulus, no egg remnant or volva. The gills do not run down the stem, between adnate or adnex. 

**So far, if you've been comparing, this mushroom fits the bill for R.parazurea very well.**

#### But lets keep going

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 ![image](https://img.esteem.ws/r3bb9yv1bg.jpg)

## The cap is classic Russula brittle

It snaps right off. The flesh is white and the grey skin on the cap starts to peel off almost to the center. The gills are a bit waxy. The flesh doesn't change color in the short term at all. All continues to fit the bill.

#### Let's look at the stem

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 ![image](https://img.esteem.ws/8e451m9yqb.jpg)

## The halved stem broke easily

The stem did not change color and was not hollow. Here we run into a very specific trait which is highlighted for R.parazurea, the brown staining inside the stem near the bottom.

Things are looking good for this ID. The mushroom also has no real smell, although it is fresh - another notable trait for this species. Plus, since it was a Russula, **taste becomes a relevant measure.**

**Little known fact, chewing a tiny amount of clean mushroom flesh, assessing the taste, and then spitting all of it out generally considered safe. Nonetheless I tend not to do it because i tend to find my mushrooms in the city and am often disgusted by their surroundings.**

But this mushroom was growing someplace familiar and clean and I wanted to see if it had the famous Russula heat. So I took a tiny bit of flesh, taken from under the gray skin, chewed it and spit it out. **No distinct taste at all and no heat!** Also consistent with R.parazurea.

#### Time for a spore print

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 ![image](https://img.esteem.ws/8sqlffpv5j.jpg)

## 24 Hours later, the most beautiful cream colored print

The color IRL might have been a touch yellower than in the photo, but just a tiny bit. It looked like perfect coffee creamer.  Plus, the mushroo flesh didn't change color at all in the 24 hour period.

**After comparing all of the macro characteristics I noted with those for R.parazurea, this mushroom appears to fit the bill perfectly.**

Now, that is not an assurance of anything. Russulas, like Lactarius and Boletus mushrooms can be notoriously difficult to ID to a species wothout DNA analysis. 

Plus, although it fits the bill for R.parazurea, I have fewer information sources for that species than I'd like and the species is apparently native to Europe and Great Britain. There are a few other Russulas that almost fit the bill - R.anatina for instance or [R.grissea](http://www.mycokey.org/resultFind.shtml?genSpec=Species&ID=1980&showList=DropDownFind&random=0)- but they aren't as perfect a match.

**However, First Nature's rundown of the species makes reference to rumors of the mushroom appaearing in the US. This is by no means dispositve, but I think the mushroom I found is close enough to R.parazurea that I feel comfortable adding this little guy to those rumored US specimens.**

As always, if anyone has any other ideas - I'm looking at you @fabulousfungi :) - I am open to them!


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Photos are all my own

Information Sources:

[1][First Nature on R.parazurea](http://www.first-nature.com/fungi/russula-parazurea.php)
[2][Wild Food Uk on R.parazurea](http://www.wildfooduk.com/mushroom-guides/powdery-brittlegill-mushroom/)
[3][Fungipedia on R.parazurea - Spanish](http://www.fungipedia.org/hongos/russula-parazurea.html)
[4][Mycokey R.anatina](http://www.mycokey.org/resultFind.shtml?genSpec=Species&ID=22669&showList=DropDownFind&random=<!--)
[5][Mycokey R.grisea](http://www.mycokey.org/resultFind.shtml?genSpec=Species&ID=1980&showList=DropDownFind&random=0)




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@fabulousfungi · (edited)
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Russulas are difficult to ID without a proper key for that particular Genus (which I don’t have) and without being really familiar with them (which I’m not).

As always, you’ve done a really good job describing your specimen and by inputting those details (grayish cap, cuticle peeling ¾ of radius, white stem, cap diameter around 10 cm, mild taste, white to palest-cream spore print) into an online key for Russulas we get [4 potential candidates](http://www2.muse.it/russulales-news/id_kibby_fatto.asp?f_cc=B&f_pc=I&f_cs=K&f_dc=N&f_sp=P&f_ts=T&f_df=%3F&f_spl=%3F&f_spw=%3F&f_spc=%3F&f_gcy=%3F&f_pcy=%3F&f_scy=%3F&f_shy=%3F) apparently).

Of all the candidates, the more promising one is *Russula redolens* (if it was, the flesh should smell [“fishy” or like Parsley](https://books.google.ca/books?id=yZsfBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA231&lpg=PA231&dq=Russula+redolens&source=bl&ots=xP3pzaB0gk&sig=nPjEV8YpCoF3G2vkOmqOaIdzPaY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5xP6f3LnWAhWs5IMKHd3ZDAIQ6AEIYDAN#v=onepage&q=Russula%20redolens&f=false) apparently).

I’d be inclined to think it’s *R. redolens* rather than *R. parazurea*, but there are accounts of the latter species being found in North America.

Edit: I forgot to add the comment about the "fishy" or "Parsley-like" smell of *R. redolens*
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@dber · (edited)
The main problem is the lack of any odor - but otherwise that looks very convincing. I wish there had been an older one as well. 

Given the geographical issues with parazurea, I was always a bit dubious. Given the circumstances I might lean closer to redolens now. Having it down to two possibilities as a single Russula is more than satisfactory compared to my normal success rate.

 More importantly, I am bookmarking the key you used. I used mostly mycokey, but it tends to orient toward Europe. 

Edit: I ran the features through mycokey and got a host of Russulas but redolens didn't come ups to orient toward Europe. 

Edit 2: I ran the features through mycokey  again and redolens was not was no where on the list. They are quite Eurocentric I think

Edit 3: Your comments are always super assiduous - and I know they take time to research and leave - which is why I wanted to drop a randowhale on this one, but apparently the service doesn't work on comments :(

Edit 4: And the same for minnowbooster apparently - well...I will find an opportunity
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@dber ·
![image](https://img.esteem.ws/l63xd5orr7.jpg)

I'm walking to work today and what do I find but another of these mushrooms, this time more mature. This pretty much seals the deal for me that it is R.redolens, even without a parsley smell.
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@moiseslink ·
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@dber ·
Thanks! You guys are all doing such a great job with the recent explosion of steemstem support!
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@valenesiana ·
Awesome post. Hardwork pays more so keep working hard! @dber  Love it.
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