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👬續聊Hive社區發展👯 by deanliu

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· @deanliu ·
$41.43
👬續聊Hive社區發展👯
![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/deanliu/23tkpS483ij2gzjybJtnnvzLA7eYr494T7L6tTmPAgGjHi4uN3xtCBmndaeqVSeqNMqwA.png)

昨天的有感而發,

[🎁支持價值計畫 (Value Plan),讓善的力量強大](https://peakd.com/hive-105017/@deanliu/value-plan)

引來了西總的有感而發,

![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/deanliu/23swnH8sTtovcaJSsV8otcmsjpSLSHEDWds1pqStRw2KqkHJ1afLMf2GS3shVpWJf3TCq.png)

然後繼續引發我的有感繼續發😂... 所以,今天就來繼續聊一下。

確實啊,這幾年的觀察,其實應該從很開始就有這跡象了,那就是,咱鏈上以活躍用戶來源地區來看,數量大的都是比較偏較低收入的國家區域等,這不是歧視啊,這某種程度上是事實,而且,仔細去想一想,就是很自然合理的事情。

你的一刀跟他的一刀,跟大鯨魚們的一刀,那意義都是不同的。

就以迦納為例,我查了一下,平均月薪資是155美刀,一天大概是5刀。你呢?比較一下,你就知道,為什麼他們在乎這裡的收益,就算無法取代,說不定也是能多拿個半個月的工資,那可是很驚人的概念啊!

https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2017/06/15/11/51/learn-2405206_1280.jpg

換句話說,低收入地區用戶,很容易從Hive上獲得心理上足夠滿足的金額,進而比較能夠產出一種集體維護的氛圍,在那地區要推行什麼活動成本也較低,接受度也更高。

而對我們這類中間收入地區的用戶來說(且還不說高收地區),這裡的一般收益,多半時間都屬於一種補充點零花錢,拿點意外小財,順便好玩跟人互動的概念。要對外推廣,難度也較大。以我說的挖水井來說,花了8千刀,確實是筆大錢。但若要在台灣這邊做,首先,可能沒有地方需要挖水井來用水,就算有,大概也不缺這些錢(似乎在台灣要挖井成本其實沒那麼高的)。要在台灣推廣Hive,還真得花腦筋想想,想出個似乎可行方案,還得去說服社區大佬支持,提供資金來做。

所以友哥跟我都說敬佩那些迦納的用戶,既是真心的,也是理解他們的條件還是比較成熟的。

![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/deanliu/23xpTsk44PUaam6vL3Bpvggknzb5UHucyhYoT81nJTo3UJSokmFunv94mvjmoZyerbQja.png)

不過,回過頭來聊聊西總說的這段,說的很在情在理:

>會想一下如何投資, 把餅做大, 而不是一味的擼提賣而已. 假如, 現存的社區多10%的人願意多走一步, 把收益 (我都不寄望他們會自掏腰包投錢進去了) 做個retain, 適當時加碼Hive, 也許, 整個生態就會活躍好多倍了吧?

這點也是我先前跟大家說鼓勵大家把Hive留住的意思,如果真漲很多了,大家想賣些都可以理解,但目前價格也不高,得慢慢長大點,讓整體社區更有實力,對大家都好的。總不好,大神持續支持我們,但我們數十年如一日的是隻浮游生物,仰賴大魚施捨吧?😂不說長成什麼鯨魚,長成隻小海豚,總是合理的~~~

其實,先前大佬跟我說過,其實有一些老外鯨魚或意見領袖,認為咱社區的平均收益過高了,雖然這都是自願投票,但人家的看法就是看法,我們不同意也沒用的。而且,以CN活躍用戶數跟總收益來說,確實是偏高的,這倒是事實,從PeakD的排行來看,我們應該是全社區裡收益排行第四的社區。所以,大家都壯大,那麼大神們受到非議的壓力(我是說假設有的話啦),也會相對少一點的。

HP speaks. 在這裡,真的就是這樣。另外當然還有你的名聲,我說的不是REP,那只是個很客觀的數字,我說的是對社區的貢獻的普遍觀感。要在社區立足,這兩條線都是可以追求的。

HP這條線,那就真的是不能說鼓勵大家真金白銀買,但至少社區內獲得的,多攢一點下來,最起碼,以HP形式拿到的,是最方便攢的。我自己點讚對象的支持,雖然是不多啦,但也曾考慮過,希望是HP持續增長的人我才支持,不過,後來因為技術問題、人情問題等等,也就作罷。就是時不時文章裡呼籲一下就算了。

至於名聲或是做點"看似"有益社區名聲或推廣社區的事,就有多元可能可以想想。做開發的事我不懂,可以問問O哥,當見證人什麼的都行。或是像迦納一樣,找找什麼公益可以做,順邊包裝一把的,其實我要不是工作忙,也覺得蠻可以做的😊。如果是純粹CN區內部的一些公眾事務性質高一點的例如友哥或以前大偉哥的一些寫作活動,或是以前我們幾個老骨頭幹過的老道茶館,甚至是西總的撲克牌,這都不錯,只是會比較內部屬性,也不容易透過這些事情去提升社區對外的整體形象等等。

既然都開了這個話頭,就歡迎大家好好想想,能搞些什麼事情,讓Hive露露臉,曝曝光?大家某種程度上也是背景各異,散布世界各地,說不定還真能搞出什麼東西呢?我負責讓大家開始想啊,後面就指望你們了😆😆😆

https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2013/07/18/20/25/meerkat-164921_1280.jpg

歡迎留話,分享你對發展Hive的新奇思路😉。

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@annepink ·
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我是来看世界交朋友长见识的!我不在乎多少收入 只要不要太低😂😂😂太低我会偷懒不一定写下去咯!反正我都是自己记录日记样🤦🏻‍♀️😂 有点收入代表我的一点动力吧… 仅仅是我个人感受哈~😅😅  我以前都介绍了好几个人来玩,甚至拉我妹妹来她都没兴趣😂😂😂 何况别人!前几年介绍了两个人来玩没一下就不写了  就我越来越喜欢这里… 挺好玩的!比如每天都能看到美神活跃劲儿!相当喜欢读你的文!看不懂的,没时间的,我就抢沙发走人!🤭🤭🤭
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@deanliu ·
萍萍是社區公關部與人資部部長~~~ 😄😄😄
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@atyh ·
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謝謝劉美女的認可, 我也繼續咱們的話題.

正如你所說的, 在一些低收入地區的hive友, 我覺得, 他們搞hive, 是真的把hive當成自己的生意去打理. 其實有一兩個在泰國的美女, 在hive的收益好像也不錯, 去年也有跟他們聊過, 他們在那邊也可以在hive全職發展了. 更何況是非洲地區的hive友呢.

所以真的是, 態度, 決定高度. 他們抱著經營自己事業的心態去搞, 和我們所謂發達地區的人的出發點, 是全完不一樣. 這幾年來, 在Hive也好, 在以前S鏈也好. 我拉過大約20人進來. 基本上能留下來的, 少之又少. 

不知大家有沒有發現, 我能拉進來而且堅持下來寫的, 都是我家人或者是老婆的好姐妹. 基本上除了我姐, 我一個香港用戶都拉不到. 因為...香港生活成本太變態了, 假設香港的用戶進來, 同時得到中文區所有大佬的點讚, 算個帖25-30美元吧. 扣除一半, 就是12.5-15美元...

如果是在中環或金鐘上班的...連吃半個lunch set都不夠...所以...要在香港把Hive推廣出去, 真的超級無敵難...因為能吸引香港用戶進來的, 絕不是短期的收益. 他們看不上. 這是我這幾年失敗的經歷, 也是, 在香港, 隨便一份白領工資也有2萬港幣 (約78000台幣), 金錢上的利益, 真的好難作為招徠.

加上香港好多金融sales, 騙子 (炒倫敦金那種), 所以好多香港人聽到這些都好有戒備, 這就更加難談下去了. 現在我已放棄拉香港用戶囉.

搞活動的話, 雖未知能不能成事,但也劇透一下, 9月份我好有機會和一個泰國hive友在香港見面. 和以往的見面不同, 之前的是同城, 同種人的見面. 如果這個成事的話, 是國際化見面呢! CN + 外國人見面, 應該是個不錯的make noise 活動吧? 我自己都十分期待, 如能成事, 到時定必分享出來給大家. 耶
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@deanliu ·
>CN + 外國人見面, 應該是個不錯的make noise 活動吧?

這個確實不錯。撒挖低咖!😄
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@atyh ·
可不可以刷他滴卡、我不想買單🤪
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@diochen ·
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我也有碰到類似問題,跟朋友提到區塊鏈,他們就會想是不是詐騙,然後在和他們提到寫作平台這塊,他們也是半信半疑,新人沒人 upvote ,寫了一下就走了,也有一些人會到處搬文章貼來騙 upvote ,這種文章蟑螂不來也罷
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@deanliu ·
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@dsky ·
很棒,支持
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@iris085 ·
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在北美的话,推广就十分难,整个加州好像只有几个人在Hive.  我从友哥以前发上来的Hive map 查到。 我觉得这个地方就几好玩,我觉的对很多的大家似乎很熟悉,到时回亚洲玩的话,希望能见上一面。  我在计划去日本台湾玩一趟,希望有机会见上大家心目中的美女。
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@deanliu ·
沒問題啊,跟我秘書聯絡,看到時是見面、用餐、諮詢還是要牽牽手,費用都可以談的😎。

😂😂😂 開玩笑啦,都是緣分😉。
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@atyh · (edited)
我先打響頭炮、疫情後首個香港-台灣hive友線下聚會、如何?
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@jychbetter ·
$0.08
有机会,中文区应该搞个大聚会
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@iris085 ·
友哥,全靠你了。如果不能真正见面,线上聚会见面可也不错的.
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@joythewanderer ·
$0.08
的确 所以不难理解委内瑞拉社区一直很活跃的原因
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@atyh ·
$0.10
幣幣比他們本國貨幣更值錢, 他們都真的把幣幣用於日常了, 這就不難理解為甚麼別人那麼活躍了.
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@jychbetter ·
$0.51
刘大美女好,各位小伙伴们好
友哥来聊几句
看了刘大美女的文章,也看完了现有的评论,大家都围绕着获得的收益展开,包括拉人进来之后对方的收益。

友哥不谈钱,谈感情,哈!
友哥喜欢在一天忙完之后,坐下来,静下来,写写文章,记录一下,分享一下,一方面通过区块链保存一下,比起个人博客,会省心很多,另一方面,获得写作的快乐,还有阅读其他小伙伴们的文章那种参与感,社交的快乐,然后才是获得收益的快乐。

友哥曾经举办过征文活动,目的是为了让小伙伴们有写作的话题,活跃社区。

友哥坚信,HIVE会越来越好!希望各位小伙伴们都能坚持下去,希望进来的新人都能坚持下去。
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@bai123 ·
$0.08
友哥说得对。很多新人之所以留不住,一个是没有一上来就有很大成就感,没有得到大佬点赞,还有就是很多人还是不了解,比如真的能变成钱吗?不会白忙乎吧,等等顾虑太多,所以也不会全部投入,最后不了了之,以上是我的个人愚见。
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@deanliu ·
友哥就是友哥,抓到重點!😁
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@marygong77777 ·
$0.08
支持推广👍🏻👍🏻
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@mrspointm · (edited)
$0.17
推广咱们社群的确也很重要,同时还得努力保证文章的质量,我周围的现象普遍就是一开始拉朋友进来的时候,他们的心态是不一样的,总觉得之类可以赚快钱,但凡是有一段时间没有得到点赞的话,就开始放弃,越是停更就越不想写,最后来进来的朋友就成了不活跃用户,我记得当初我拉进来的四川小分队,就只剩下我们两夫妻和另外两个朋友了...😭

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@bai123 ·
$0.08
没错,得不到点赞也要持续写。
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@jychbetter ·
表姐 @biaojie ,还一直在坚持
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@mrspointm ·
我们家的必须呀~还得谢谢友哥帮忙注册 我说的是之前的四川小分队😭
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@nostalgic1212 ·
$0.34
一直有在做推廣的工作,但是拿我身邊的朋友來說,除非是非常近的親友且有我手把手的教才能持續的保持輸出。

介紹其他人來玩,對於大陸來說首先第一道門檻就是翻牆+同他們解釋什麼是區塊鏈。我自己以前就任職於機關單位,深知網絡詐騙這塊的宣傳在大陸鋪開有多深度多廣,乃至於很多人一聽說區塊鏈就直接一個大寫的噠咩。

能推廣的,則是以前在別的平台玩過的朋友了。有談妥幾位,也許未來能陸陸續續來寫文吧。

另外我贊同說能廣泛鋪開的是相對於收入低一些的地區,這個無論是在國外還是在國內都適用。杭州算是二線城市吧,但是物價也搞到令人咋舌的地步。在寫字樓里一餐普通的工作餐都要接近35RMB,如果是市中心就要起碼多1/3.

以前我開玩笑說,你們來寫嘛,就當作是解決工作餐,現在不敢講了…哈哈哈哈,只敢同他們講,也許可以喝一杯奶茶?(嚶嚶嚶,奶茶也要25RMB)

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@deanliu · (edited)
我最近想想,覺得這個思路可能需要換一個了...詳晚點文章 😁
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@nostalgic1212 ·
好啊好啊,蹲個沙發(bushi)~
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@oflyhigh ·
$0.17
>但也曾考慮過,希望是HP持續增長的人我才支持,

也是我的考虑之一
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@deanliu ·
😍😍😍

雖然,我一直以為O哥是因為外表才支持我的~~~~ 👺

![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/deanliu/AK81YauKcfUBGamtSZMw21m2yVY8eaKcRS9g216sohhkysgsKqZR1ZoREW7DjCj.png)
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@wxmark ·
$0.21
拉中国国内的人还是比较难的,毕竟身边觉得部分人都不翻墙,屏蔽了很多人了。Leofinance社区在做很多改变,比如引入microblogging变成不在关注finance,而是通用话题都可以,流量一下子就上去了。Leofinance还会有广告,用广告费买入LEO。这样就会形成一个正循环带来更多人来使用。我觉得Leofinance社区的方向非常清晰。
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@deanliu ·
Leo做的事我看到了,方向基本正確,我只是擔心過去他們做的幾個東西後來都不太成功,不知道執行力是否能通過考驗...還是希望能成功啦,我也還有些LEO代幣呢~~~ 
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@wxmark ·
LEO社区有专门开发团队,在开发着各种新功能,CN区是否也可以考虑开发用户所需功能来拓展新用户?
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@dsky ·
一直在支持LEO,如果能向微博推特一样发发日常生活心情类的可能较合适大多数人。
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@dalz ·
Hey man ... sorry for the of topic comment, I'm not sure are you aware of, I'm running a Hive witness node, if you like what I'm doing around here please support it!
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@wxmark ·
现在LEO上中文基本为零,推广LEO的microblogging在中文社区也是一个增长用户的方式
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@xiaoyaodidi ·
$0.08
这应该和每个人的初衷有关系 到底是把hive社区当社交圈那么玩还是当一份兼职
如果是全职hive也是有可能的  主要还是看每个人的想法  到底是分享生活还是来开扩事业 😁
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