New Steem: So Now That Curation is More Lucrative, Who's Creating CONTENT? by denmarkguy

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steem · @denmarkguy · Aug 31 '19

$2.74

New Steem: So Now That Curation is More Lucrative, Who's Creating CONTENT?

I admit that I am sometimes a little slow in the uptake... so bear with me, please.

Still trying to figure out the aftermath of HF.21 and this whole thing called **#NewSteem.**

I do dig the idea that there are better rewards for discovering and curating content... I think that's something that has been needed around here for a while: In short, Steemlandia was in need of more content *consumers.*

So that's a pretty good thing... right?

Of course, then the rewards distribution *also* changed... and I keep running into these statements to the effect of *"if your post is below 20 Steem, your reward will be lower,"* which sounds like a genteel and politically correct way of saying that the 98% of content creators (or more?) are actually *worse* off than they were before.

![1084Daisy.jpg](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/denmarkguy/UBTOezE5-1084-Daisy.jpg)
*Daisy in the afternoon sun*

## *I don't really CARE, but...*

...I'm pretty sure some other people will. I'm just a blogger, so I plan to keep on blogging.

Still, this new distribution sounds mostly like a form of what we used to call *"Marketing Window Dressing,"* back when I was in that biz. To the innocent bystander who swings by one of the Steem front ends and looks at what posts are earning, it will look *very* attractive, while the *truth* of their likely fate if they *do* join the community... is a lot sadder.

It's almost like a *"loss leader"* at the supermarket: They offer you $3.99/lb ribeye steaks to get people to come IN the market... where everything else is overpriced.

I'm not disagreeing with the premise that we need new people to join the community so we can have some membership growth... just concerned that it will end up playing like *"false advertising."*

![1084LeafSpider.jpg](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/denmarkguy/QD2CpJs6-1084-LeafSpider.jpg)
*Leaf and spider web*

## *But Back to Creating Content...*

The question still lingers, for me...

If you have some klout *(aka SteemPower)* and it's more attractive to *curate* than to post... *and* you're unlikely to be rewarded very much unless your posts are gonna make 20+ Steem... exactly *who* is going to be *creating* this content actually *needed* to get those better curation rewards from?

And if you come here as a newbie... no matter *how* talented a content creator you may be, isn't it now just going to be *that much harder* to work your way past that 20-Steem boundary?

Feels a bit like a chicken vs. egg thing... but maybe I'm missing something?

Yeah, I know... lots of questions, few answers.

![1084View.jpg](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/denmarkguy/orf1JEa2-1084-View.jpg)
*The view from here...*

## *Tribal Creative Shuffling*

Currently, *my* answer is that I am still more interested in the potential of the Steem-Engine based *tribes* than in Steem Prime. It's interesting to watch, at least... I'm guessing more than a few of them will self-destruct, in pursuit of a few more cents. But a handful — with appropriate moderation and oversight — might end up doing pretty well.

Many seem pretty ill-conceived. A few already are showing themselves to be *"too small"* to sustain activity. Let's face it, if you have a group that announces a *team* of 10-12 people... and *not a single one of them* has posted anything of consequence in a week, that does not bode well.

Of course, the world is full of people who will come *running* at the slightest suggestion that the word *"TOKENS!"* hangs in the air.

Reminds me of nothing so much as throwing a handful of small change (coins) into the air on a crowded pedestrian street and then watching seemingly rational and sane adults scramble like crazy and fight with each other... *just to collect less money than they make in one minute* at their places of work!

Hope everyone is having a great day!

*(Another **#creativecoin** creative non-fiction post)*

***Comments, feedback and other interaction is invited and welcomed! Because — after all — SOCIAL content is about interacting, right? Leave a comment-- share your experiences-- be part of the conversation!***

*(As usual, all text and images by the author, unless otherwise credited. This is original content, created expressly for this platform.)
Created at 190830 17:42 PDT*
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@beerlover · Aug 31 '19

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@chesatochi · Aug 31 '19

Always good as always. ;)

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👍 denmarkguy

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@denmarkguy · Aug 31 '19

Thank you!

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@eii · Aug 31 '19

$0.03

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for @denmarkguy

👍 curationhelper, beerlover

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@beerlover · Sep 6 '19

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@curationhelper · Sep 6 '19

!BEER

👍 beerlover

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@enjar · Aug 31 '19

I would not worry too much about that 20 Steem mark now so many people are going put in there head. 1 Steem is one that most don’t talk about and going over that threshold increase rshares your vote was worth and is smoothing to be more concerned about from my limited understanding.  

As far as who is still creating content. Well I am! It’s only a couple a week most of the time due to how time consuming what I do is. Still if things decline I’ll just make some changes. I’ve been putting more and more effort on promoting my content outside of Steem and building myself up. 

I think for those who had a lot of Sp and where just spam posting to farm them this now at least gives them a choice to go do something else and make a decent amount. 


The bigger thing here is that downvote pool. It’s getting used and some big bid botted posts when down. If that keeps up when people choose to abuse such things with zero effort posts than that is great.

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@felt.buzz.ccc · Aug 31 '19

As someone who creates content and curates (and keeps an eye on how much I "earn") I have to say you can still earn a hell of a lot more from content creation than curation (and the tribes have created more ways to earn). I have to say if I want to earn from curation I would just go to trending page rather than upvoting other posts, but I don't (and that is not what most curators do). Curation isn't about making money (there are better ways).

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@fionasfavourites · Aug 31 '19

@denmarkguy

>If you have some klout (aka SteemPower) and it's more attractive to curate than to post... and you're unlikely to be rewarded very much unless your posts are gonna make 20+ Steem... exactly who is going to be creating this content actually needed to get those better curation rewards from?

This is exactly the question I've been asking - ever since HF21 began being punted.

And I'm one of your jury who is still unconvinced about the real value of tribes and tokens.

Fiona

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@frot · Aug 31 '19

## Long ago I indirectly made $12.5k for a Steemit post, but sadly I think the platform has been trashed - I'm still watching it but this looks bad now...

https://steemit.com/teamnz/@frot/howimadetwelveandahalfgrandforablogpost-1da945rboc
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@denmarkguy · Aug 31 '19

I hear you... and there are a few stories like that around. I remember a couple of weeks following one particular hardfork in 2017 (I think?) *every* post I had made *at least* $50... and several made $200-250+ in the end, about $5K in 20 days... but you've been here a long time, too... so we've seen both sides of that coin.

👍 frot

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@felt.buzz.ccc · Aug 31 '19

But steem was worth 6dollars then (and bitcoin 20grand). It isn't to do with the hardforks it is to do with the market. I bet you are earning more now in STEEM than you were last year, it is just that STEEM is (currently) worth a lot less

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@frot · Aug 31 '19

![](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmZLfvSbD3ybEroAJPyNiKEnLHS5Lb2jVoykGbgKcvUs5G/image.png)

👍 frot

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@metzli · Aug 31 '19

Those sound like fun times.

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@jsantana · Aug 31 '19

This "New Steem" is so old...

Posted using [Partiko Android](https://partiko.app/referral/jsantana)

👍 denmarkguy

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@denmarkguy · Aug 31 '19

Almost like Windows... it may be "Windows 10," but it's *still* just Windows...

👍 jsantana

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@metzli · Aug 31 '19

I am still creating content! Here's a little secret, to those of us who make less than $0.25 cents per post (which is a whole lot of us) cutting it in half is really of no consequence, especially when the curation rewards are doubling. 

If you are here "for the community" or to give your $$ a higher interest rate through blogging, or for other stuff than pulling out cash on a monthly basis, then the fork was a good thing. 

I do like seeing that some people can really boost their income off of steem and it is really sad to see that they are earning less, but for those on the "get rich slow" and grow your steem power crowd, this has turned out to be a great change.

👍 criticalthinkin, jsantana

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@offgridlife · Aug 31 '19

I am.

👍 denmarkguy

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@denmarkguy · Aug 31 '19

Cool! It's always good to see some of the more prolific publishers keepin' on!

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@offgridlife · Aug 31 '19

I mostly publish my Photography and Artwork which doesn’t do very well on Steem these days. Luckily I discovered Publish0X and I am earning a lot more there.  https://www.publish0x.com/?a=BDbDqjxdl2

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@owasco · Aug 31 '19

Yes, we are bloggers and we do it for the readers, not the money. Still, it irks me that folks who are far richer than I am are now making more money on my work than they were before, and I am making less. That really bugs me.
I have never had a post make $20. I am delighted when they make $2. Now my $2 is $1, I have to share more of that with my benefactors, and my upvote is worth next to nothing unless I stop upvoting people just like me, which also really bugs me. 

Thanks for discussing this with such a positive attitude. I'm having some difficulty doing that.

👍 denmarkguy

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@denmarkguy · Aug 31 '19

I hear you... and I understand the frustration, too. 

I've been here at a time when Steem was only worth $0.07, and I have been here at a time when I not only had back-to-back $100 posts, but went entire *weeks* with no post below $50. Sadly — regardless of whether this is the "unicorn" known as the blockchain, or not — the truth of good gigs like this is that they tend to become close to worthless, in time.

For me, the "promise" here always laid in the idea of "communities," which Steemit, Inc. first promised a couple of years back. The user created "tribes" created through Steem-Engine are actually approximating that... and I believe a few of them (created and maintained by long-time content creators) will end up doing well for those who are involved... especially the interest-specific ones like PhotoStreem and CreativeCoin. 

Anyway, appreciate the comment, and you got yourself a new follower.

👍 owasco

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@owasco · Aug 31 '19

I've been a bit annoyed with those tribes too! Something new to learn and gamble on. I'm not a gambler and my learning curve on steem is very steep. I'll check out creative coin - people do mention that one to me a lot. 
Pleased to make your acquaintance!

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@shadeserver · Aug 31 '19

<center><div class='pull-left'> https://i.imgur.com/6WYsD9Y.png </div><br><br> Hi denmarkguy the SHADE tokens are on the way. <br> Thanks for sharing SHADE <br>To view or Trade SHADE visit [steem-engine.com](https://steem-engine.com/?p=market&t=SHADE)</center>

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@shadowspub · Aug 31 '19

I'm not changing what I normally do .. and will, see how things work out. 

Enjoy some !SHADE 3
<center>  https://i.imgur.com/5nKnMqj.png  </center>
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👍 shadeserver

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@theluvbug · Aug 31 '19

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@tts · Aug 31 '19

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