IT'S NOT OK TO LINK TO JUST ANY SOURCE WHERE YOU FIND AN IMAGE ON THE WEB Daily I read some posts with terrific well thought out content, yet I refuse to Upvote or Comment on them. Why? A quick click on the **_Image Source_** link, shows that the image was swiped from the web from some other website, Google, flickr, a blog, or even a stock photgraphy site etc.! I refuse to help someone make money off an image from one of my fellow stock photographers who is not making a penny from his/her work through this illegal usage of his/her image. And I refuse to support anyone who does not have enough decency to do the right thing! I know that much of the Steemit community is happy as long as a source (even mickey Mouse) is listed, but **_it is still image plagiarism to list an incorrect source_**, and it's copyright infringement anyway, and downright illegal! I have heard arguments about Steemit being exempt from copyright laws because it is international in nature! Really? Steemit is a [US based private company](https://www.steem.center/index.php?title=Steemit,_Inc), and as such can be held liable for your irresponsibility! Any lawsuit against those who are using images illegally will affect **_ALL OF US ON STEEMIT!_** By swiping images from the web and lazily typing **_Image Source_**, you are not just harming the original creator of the content, you are also potentially harming the **_ENTIRE STEEMIT COMMUNITY!_** So, you are being totally unfair to your fellow Steemians, when you violate the copyright of others on the web! You have no rights to any images unless they are clearly labeled with a Creative Commons license. Even then, there is a specific way that you must give credit to the photographer. I'm sorry if it takes you a few minutes to do this, but if you don't have the time to be doing it right, you should not be using the photography! It takes time and money to make photographs too, and you should respect that! Even some whales and dolphins are swiping images, but it is a very dangerous game because a whale or a dolphin with a nice fat wallet is more likely to be sued and so spoil it for the rest of us who are doing things the right way! It's time that you decided to take a stand (you know who you are) and set an example for those new to Steemit, because they come on here and see that you are violating copyright, so they assume that it is OK to follow suit! This is an excellent article called [10 Bogus Excuses To Use A Photo You Found On The Internet](http://francisvachon.com/10-bogus-excuses-to-use-a-photo-you-found-on-the-internet/) by a Canadian photographer. I could not have said it better myself! It has video too, if you prefer to watch it instead of reading! Also, our own @timcliff posted [this](https://steemit.com/copyright/@timcliff/steemit-news-dmca-claim-for-copyright-infringement) last year to show how vulnerable Steemit is. Next time, Steemit may not be quite as lucky! This is not the first post I have written about this, and it certainly won't be the last. Typically, posts about copyright infringement and image plagiarism are not well read or Upvoted upon, because too many want to turn a blind eye, so thanks in advance to all who have bothered to read this post until the end.  **_Image © Diane Macdonald. All Rights Reserved._** Camera:Canon EOS 5D Mark II Lens:EF100mm f/2.8 Macro USM Exposure: 1/125 sec; f/11; ISO 200 Post Processing: Adobe® Photoshop, Adobe® Camera Raw And Topaz Texture Effects <center>  </center> <center> The following are some past posts I have written about the subject. [Photo plagiarism – How to avoid it](https://steemit.com/photography/@dmcamera/photo-plagiarism-how-to-avoid-it-original-photography#@dmcamera/re-tattoodjay-re-dmcamera-20171221t234824587z) [Hey Steemit – Royalty free images are not free images](https://steemit.com/steemit/@dmcamera/hey-steemit-royalty-free-images-are-not-free-images) [Copyright – What does it have to do with you?](https://steemit.com/copyright/@dmcamera/copyright-what-does-in-have-to-do-with-you) [New Steemit logo is copyright](https://steemit.com/steemit/@dmcamera/new-steemit-logo-copyright-haiku) [Stock Photography – Do I have the right to use it on Steemit?](https://steemit.com/philosophy/@dmcamera/stock-photography-do-i-have-the-right-to-use-it-on-steemit) [Photographers – Let's educate others about correct image usage](https://steemit.com/steemit/@dmcamera/photographers-let-s-educate-users-about-correct-image-usage) [Steemit – My key to long term success](https://steemit.com/philosophy/@dmcamera/steemit-my-key-to-long-term-success-3-must-know-tips-from-a-newbie) [Free photography on the web – Where to find it](https://steemit.com/copyright/@dmcamera/free-photography-on-the-web-wher-to-find-it) [How to avoid copyright violation and image plagiarism – How to effectively use Google Images](https://steemit.com/blog/@dmcamera/how-to-avoid-copyright-violation-and-image-plagiarism-how-to-effectively-use-google-images) <center>  </center> <center> Thanks for taking the time to read this! I appreciate it. Please check out my photography-101 account here: https://steemit.com/@photography-101 and Follow if you wish. Shortly I will be making all my Photography101 posts from there! </center> <center> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/363691959812096011/376901399285465089/thealliance_ladies_3.png?width=400&height=67   </center>
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Thank you for these posts! There are many newcomers as you say who not knowing better, think it is ok to copy paste or just mention 'a source' thinking that's all they need to do because they have seen others do it. There should be more senior members pointing these issues out. Bravo, Diane!
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Thanks for your support! 😊
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Agreed. I try to comment on those using images illegally and show them the 'right way' to go about things. If they continue, I flag and report them. 😏 Here's my HELPFUL post on how to find LEGAL images. It's old. So don't upvote it. But the info is good. Feel free to share it to help others. 😍 [💥 Game Changer! 💥 How to LEGALLY use Googled images!💥](https://steemit.com/steemit/@carrieallen/game-changer-how-to-legally-use-googled-images)
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Thanks! :-) I wrote a post about the same thing. I would go one step further and put the image that you have found on Pixabay into Tineye, because there is always the chance that someone (surprise! surprise!) swiped the image from somewhere and uploaded it there. Pixabay is not responsible for an end user using an image that is actually copyright material. It is caveat emptor (although no one is paying for anything. LOL) I would love to see how you tactfully handle it. :-) Tag me sometime. LOL! It's easy enough to do with newcomers, but not at all easy when a whale or dolphin is doing it. Unfortunately, Steemcleaners does not handle copyright infringement, so we are on our own! They don't consider it plagiarism if ANY source is listed, and I don't agree with that. But, it's the best they can do for now, and I'm all behind them!
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Oh. I would NEVER tell a whale what to do. Simply too terrifying. Just as in real life, MONEY rules. 😉 Normally, folks just have NO idea about stuff. I blame Facebook. Everything is just shared willy-nilly there and no one ever has to answer to anything. And the plagiarism thing. Technically, if they AT LEAST site where it came from, *most* are happy enough with that. Until, of course, they notice possible rewards on a post with their image. Then, won't THEY just join the platform and get paid? And open communication with whoever shared their stuff in the first place? Wouldn't that just be a perfect world? 😄 However, you are correct. If the owner of said image WANTED to seek legal help, they could... but again, only if they took the proper steps to protect it in the first place. And I'm not entirely sure what that entails... I did NOT know that about Pixabay! I'll have to be more diligent. I DO use Tineye ALL THE TIME. 😀 I have to check when I'm curating. I'd hate to accidentally miss something that was plagiarized. There are TONS of free image sites out there, it's just a matter of ushering folks in the right direction. The plagiarism in pics and words is pretty bad around these parts, but we can all help a little to protect ourselves. Thanks for looking out! 
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10000% agree. I think this is going to cause major issues down the road for some people and some sites like SOLA for instance
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Yes, I can imagine that, because supposedly information will just spread like a virus. Hmm!
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? I'm confused by your wording
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Hey @dmcamera ... this interaction might "intrigue" you.... https://steemit.com/nature/@luckyboy786/nature-image Read the comments...so I always try to give newbies the benefit of the doubt but my gosh is it ever annoying when they just don't give a crap!
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I know. It’s just a photograph....... I read the comments from him. Report it to Steemcleaners. At least they will slap him with plagiarism as there is not even a wrong source cited!!
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Great post on a subject that needs constant attention. Even as an armature photographer, it amazes me how many people convince themselves that if they just list the source, they can do whatever the heck they want. Glad you put it out there in BW, or awesome blue, actually ( : I don't vote on people unless it is either original content, or listed as a real, legal source. And even then, I seldom vote, as I just much prefer original content on here. It is EASY. Your phone will take great photos, people. I suppose one method is to try negative flagging, but that can get pretty nasty. Maybe some guidance, or light admonition would be better. Not too good at it, so I'll practice on my cat first. Thanks for putting this out there. I need to go watch the video/read the post you put out.
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Thanks! It really is not worth the risks. Someone will get sued sooner or later. It's not a matter of **if**, but of **when**. Steemit is beginning to get known, and known as a place **for making money.** It won't be long before some very high earning and powerful photographer finds his work on here, and what's more he's not being compensated! Taking an image for personal use is bad, taking it to post on a blog is worse, and taking it to post on a for-profit site where the poster stands to make money is far worse! The likelihood of being sued has gone way up because of what Steemit stands for! A court recently ruled that even anonymous posters are not exempt from copyright infringement lawsuits, and must be unveiled if they are doing something illegal!
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I remember having this argument with people on Tsu (RIP) too. I think there are many people on the internet who treat it like the wild west: if I want something and it is there I will take it. In fact I have been told that everything on the internet is fair game (if it is there, then it is free by definition), and the argument that other people have actually worked hard to create something doesn't wash with a lot of people - hey! why work hard when you can just take something for nothing). I always use my own photos (unless I am entering a competition for a story based on an image prompt, that someone is providing). It is safer and adds to the 'original content' label. As there are lots of photographers on Steemit, I wonder if there is any mileage in having a system where people can buy your images to use in their articles for steem or STD (or if somehow they could share in the profits from a post - like curation). Not sure how this would work, but I am sure someone would be able to develop the idea. Obviously, this would only work if people thought that they have to pay for what they use...
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Thanks for your detailed response. It’s crazy that people would think that anything on the web is free. The idea of the Internet was that it was free to use! Lol! Not that everything on it was free! Try telling Amazon that all their products should be free! Stock photography is no different. It is a product offered through websites. Before the Internet became popular for licensing stock, my images were listed as thumbnails in paper catalogs that were sent out to clients. I still have a collection of them gathering dust in my garage! Early on , businesses mostly licensed the work from the web in large files for advertising and print. Web usage at that time was not permitted, but businesses purchased huge digital files for use in printed media. Times changed though, so the agencies started providing a cheaper license for web use, or they would sell a more expensive license that would cover all uses including web use. That’s where the problem started really. Swiping a thumbnail from an agency is one thing, but now decent size files can be swiped from those who legally pay to use them! Reputable blogs and websites are good clients, who pay the licensing fee. When others swipe an image from those sites to use in their blogs, it so amateurish and unprofessional. Licensing for web use can be very cheap and reasonable, and should be part of the budget of someone hoping to make a profit from their blogs if the work they want happens to be available for licensing! For a site that boasts so many bloggers, I am amazed at how few actually license the stock images they are using! I have let a couple of infringements on my own images slip by with a slap on the wrist, but I’m not going to be so lenient going forward. I will report them to the agencies as I do with the other violations I find in the web!! Your idea of somehow licensing images on here has been brought up before. Stock licensing contracts are lengthy and drawn up by lawyers. I don’t believe it would work, because you would in effect be setting up a stock agency available for all people on the web! On the other hand, if someone familiar with running a stock agency were to set up that would work!! There are groups on here giving away free work, but the problem is there has to be some kind of written agreement and licensing. It is dangerous territory because they are not just providing free work to Steemit, but to the whole web with no protections of property releases or model releases, and no guarantees that the work is their own to give away! The idea of sharing post profits with the photographer is a great one, because it would eliminate all images swiped from the web but it would be a problem for those using CCO licenses, though. So I am not sure how you would get around that!
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Another great write up on this topic @dmcamera. Thanks for putting in the effort to further raise awareness. Based on the comments its clear that it is still a confusing and unknown topic for many, and of course with each new group of people joining us we have more people who don't understand copyright law. I find it surprising how many people think copyright is an opinion! I hope they don't find out the hard way through a lawsuit.
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Thanks! As recently as last month, Alamy made a collection for me from an infringer. I did not even know that the image had been taken. I just got a surprise payment with explanation in my monthly statement! The agencies have a professional version of Tineye, and are constantly scanning the web for copyright violations. They take it very seriously, thank God! Those who pay the licensing fee are also being violated, because they trust that the image is only being used in certain ways! They are paying for certain rights that are often being violated! What I omitted to say is the copyright is THE LAW, Believing you have the right to use anything you find on the Internet is OPINION! There are 3 kinds of people in this regards in my opinion. There are those who are willing to learn and will not take images from the web anymore, because they have a moral conscience ; then there are those who may listen for a while and won't take images from the web because they are afraid of being caught; and then there are those who believe they have a right to everything they see and are not afraid of the consequences. I will never be able to change the minds of the second and third groups of people, but I can appeal to the consciences of the people in the first group.
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yes, some people are beyond redemption. I remember someone ranting on youtube about getting sued for copyright infringement.. he was totally unapologetic and even annoyed it happened .. but not a hint about how he'd made a mistake or done wrong, he was just ranting about the injustice against him.. unbelievable.
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I totally agree, I'm trying to make a living for over 20 years now as a photographer. The constant struggle, always keeping an eye who might have used your images. Imagining that I actually could live comfortable if paid right for my photos being used. I'm so happy others feel the same way and happy for Steemit. Looking forward to me more posts from you.
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Thanks. I’m excited that there is going to be some changes in the stock photography business using the block chain. It could be the end of piracy. 😊
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Also the whole think with Kodakcoin.
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I am an #OriginalContent advocate and post my original fractal art often, mostly daily. I allow my images to be used for anyone's ** Personal Use** for wallpaper for their own pc, laptop and mobile devices - **Only!** But there are many who will blatantly steal them for claiming as their own works. My message is to prosecute anyone stealing other's work and claiming ownership!
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You do some awesome work! Do you provide some kind of license for the free wallpaper usage? I notice some groups on Steemit offering their work free on Steemit, but I don’t think they are providing any usage licenses like a Creative Commons one for protection.
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Thanks very much! I use a statement which basically says - You can use the image for your personal computer and mobile devices wallpaper only - then add my copyright and name. Pretty simple. People who are going to steal your work don't care about copyright, they will steal it anyway and claim ownership. You have to find them doing it and prosecute, or not, most don't!
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Thanks for the prompt @dmcamera, that's one of the reason I always put my watermark on my photos (not in case someone decides to steal my photo and use it, though its a nice precaution to have), so people will know it is my own photo and it didn't lift it off the internet. I have used photos from newspaper and magazines before and always cite their source, but i will definitely read through your articles to make sure I haven't fell foul of anything
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Yes, it's far better to use your own work. The problem is, if you have used an image you should not have used in the past, the post is still out there on the web for the photographer to find! Remember too, that the source is NEVER a newspaper article, but it is the **_photographer and/or licensing agency_** from where the photo originated. Citing a source does absolutely nothing. It is still a copyright violation, even if you place my copyright symbol and name under the photograph (which is what all legitimate companies do when they have paid a licensing fee.) You need permission or you need to pay a fee. I can't stress that enough! Also, because Steemit is for profit, a whole big can of worms is being opened in my opinion! This is no ordinary blogging site, or we would not even all be here! If you can't find the source of an image, it's quite simple, you can't use the image. PERIOD! It's probably not even worth looking any further unless you are willing to pay the licensing fee. If the article is from a reputable news site, then they have paid a licensing fee, which you must also do if you wish to use what you see. If you find the image on someone else's blog, if it's a reputable blogger, again he/she will have paid a fee to use that image! If an image has already been stolen, then copying it reduces further the value of that image to the photographer. When an image is to be licensed, a client will often search to see how an image is being used on the web. Ironically, because of that, the more popular an image is for stealing, the less likely it is that the photographer will be able to license it! Hope this helps a little more. Keep on adding your own work, and you will be fine!
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I completely agree with you 💯
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Thanks! It would be great to see Steemit as a place where only content that is created in a professional manner exists. We are a self policing community. So it’s up to everyone to take responsibility.
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Nobody steals as long as the Image source is clearly mentioned or am I wrong? Most of the time I use my own photos but for some stories I need to use various images from articles I get inspired from. I am confused.....
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You are very wrong, but I can see why you are confused. Most people on here are not familiar with image licensing and rights because they have had no commercial experience of photography and its usage, and they don't bother to learn about them either. Anyone posting images has a responsibility to learn about what they are doing. It is copyright infringement to take an image without permission. Period! I have yet been able to pay any of my bills from a credit line. LOL! And the plumber is not willing to do work for me simply because I will spread his name around. When you have purchased the license for the image and you are using it, then you also must state the source. That's where all the confusion comes from. If you are using a CCO license, you must state the source according to the licensing agreement. Pixabay images are supposedly copyright free, but there is no guarantee of that. You can't just take an image from an article. That is copyright infringement. If you want to use that same image, you must find the actual source and license the image for yourself. That article is never the source. The source is the photographer. Of course it takes time, but no one has the right to use the work anyway without payment or permission. That's what **All Rights Reserved** means. I reserve the rights to use all of my images no matter where they are on the web. Just because web site A purchased a license for their image, doesn't mean that Website B can now take the image without licensing it! Licenses have restrictions too. If you take an image from an article, you have no contract with the licensing agency, so you have no idea what the restrictions on that image usage is! If models are involved there are restrictions about how images with people may be used. Sometime too, and image is only available for licensing for a short period of time in a certain form in certain countries! Just liking my image in an article, gives no one the right to use it! If I like someone's shoes, that does not give me the right to take them and wear them at a wedding because I don't have the time to go looking for where I can buy a similar pair. Simply listing the source may stop Steemcleaners from accusing someone of plagiarizing, but it does not stop a photographer from suing for copyright infringement. (It actually is still plagiarism, because the REAL source has to be listed, but no one on Steemit is policing, so the it's left up to the blogger to post the real source - and very few do.)
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Thats your opinion as a photographer but please don't tell me how wrong everybody is. I believe that its ok to use photos from the internet as long as the source and link is provided. I agree with the rest you are talking about. I will find out more about this topic. Thanks and have a nice day.
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@dmcamera, Thanks for posting this. I try to always make sure I am not infringing upon anybody's rights. I do this primarily by using my own bad pictures whenever possible and pixabay or wikipedia for other times. Whenever I use wikipedia, I check the license for the image as wiki is very good about always providing the license and actual source in plain language. So it's usually pretty easy for me to tell if it is usable. Do you think I'm ok with these practices?
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Steem != Steemit What if you use busy.org to browse the Steem blockchain? What if you use a local browser?
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I don't understand your question. Have you posted this on the wrong post perhaps? if it is in the right place and I am missing something, copyright is copyright. :-)
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Upvoted & resteemed! @dmcamera This is a very thorough and well written post with a wealth of information that needs to be shared to and read by as many as possible on Steemit♨️💯
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Than you so much. Although Copyright Infringement is not prevented on Steemit, I think that unsuspecting people should be made aware. There will always be those who don’t care about the rights of others and will continue to take what isn’t theirs as long as they can get away with it. But the average person needs to be aware that Copyright Infringement is illegal and can have dire consequences - especially with money being made from the posts on Steemit!
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Hi Diane, thanks for bringing awareness on this theme here on Steemit. I only use my images and don't have any on stock images sites or in agencies. I don't use watermark either, most of the times. I wonder if I can trace them on the Internet even so. Is Tinyeye useful just per se? Thanks in advance, my dear!
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Tineye is very useful. You just drag and drop your image into it and you can find out if anyone else is using your image on the web! Every incidence is not found. It depends on the web crawlers and the sites they have scanned. Because my images are stock images, the agencies make sure the images are submitted to the data base forTineye so that they can be found. For your own personal images, it would depend on whether the image has been indexed via Steemit You can do the same thing with Google Images, so you may want to try both. I have better results with Tineye, but I think it's because they are stock images mostly. The watermark can easily be removed, and your photography doesn't need one to be copyright, but adding it on Steemit let's people know right away that the image is yours. Hope this helps. :-)
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It helps a lot, Diane. I have to get a watermark that I like, I see your photos have them always. I try to learn from other photographers that I respect. I've tried Tinyeye meanwhile, and put some of my photos I know are on the Wikipedia, and it found them right away. But with others I publish on my website it didn't find them. Thanks for enlightening us all! Cheers, my dear!
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What if the images were previously oost on my blog or instagram account? I have not thought much about this but it is a most valid point. Generally I don't mind if anyone uses something I've done if credit is given. But I may be thinking wrongly about it. I am always open to correction. Thank you.
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Most people don't mind credit being given for their images, because it is not their livelihood, and they don't understand copyright. That's why it has become difficult for professional photographers. They are expected to not mind either. I have just been doing an online search for some of my own work this afternoon and will be sending notices of unauthorized use to my agencies on a slew of them. I do this every once in a while and the agencies handle the rest. Unless images are removed, they are still there to be found many years down the road. An image is copyright the minute the shutter is released.:-)
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Thank you for helpong me understand more clearly.
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very great job..
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it is good to get this information out there because I was wondering when I see people not link and sometimes when they do they use someone's personal blog ..really strange stuff
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I have been trying to educate people for 6 months about this, and will keep working on it. As I said, the problem is that new people join and they see all the phony links, so they do the same! Thanks for commenting. :-)
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Sneaky Ninja Attack! You have been defended with a 0.75% vote... I was summoned by @dmcamera! I have done their bidding and now I will vanish...Whoosh
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wow you most of us dont know how to insert image source on this platform
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You are right. Most don't know how to use images in their content. That's why I write these posts every now and again, as do some other professional photographers on here.
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You are great weldone
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Thanks for sharing! Links to your post were included in the Steem.center wiki articles about [Copyright](https://www.steem.center/index.php?title=Copyright), [Creative Commons](https://www.steem.center/index.php?title=Creative_Commons) and [Including images in your posts](https://www.steem.center/index.php?title=Including_images_in_your_posts). Thanks and good luck again!
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That sounds interesting! I will have a look! Thanks!
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Just had a look! That's a great resource. Thanks again!
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If I need images then I at least check the licence on them. Google allows you to search by licence. It would be great to see an image licence built on Steem that allows you to allocate part of the post rewards to the photographers.
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Yes, you are right. Google is a search engine and you can use it to your advantage to very quickly find out what the copyright status of an image is. There is also Tineye, which you can use to double check an image you have found. It’s a great idea to think about a sharing for photographers, but still permission from the original photographer would always be required, because some images have restrictions set on them. For example, there are images that are restricted to use in certain territories, and there are restrictions on using images with people in them unless they have signed model releases. Even then, there are restrictions agreed upon in the model release!
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Thank you so much! I click on every **Image Source link**, and I'm appalled that people don't bother to find out if they they have a right to use an image or not. 99.9% of the time they don't have the right to use it! When i see someone using an image with a CCO license and they take pains to properly give credit the way the license actually requires it, I Upvote, tip and praise them! Positive reinforcement! :-)
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Yes I must start doing that also it’s a great idea
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Sound logic, will follow your recommendation, thanks for the effort :)
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I appreciate your stopping by and commenting! It is quite logical. Everyone expects others to have their written content protected, but some don't give any thoughts to the rights of the image creators. Yet, copyright infringement is illegal!
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Very well said, Diane. I feel the same way. I also think that original images are undervalued. Some can take as much time to choose and process as writing text content. It is disappointing when I see "sourced" images in posts.
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Thanks for taking the time to respond. Education is key, but it feels like a losing battle sometimes, because so many think they have the right to take whatever they see as long as they put that silly Image source Link. Even if an image is licensed, PROPER copyright information has to appear under the photograph! Some stock images take hours, and sometimes days to prepare. I have spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on education and equipment over the years! A professional photographer's overhead is very high, although I've had to cut my expenses way back these days in order to make a profit. I no longer pay for models, as I don't photograph people for stock anymore, and I no longer pay for a studio or to photograph on someone's property, but expenses have to be taken into account when you run any kind of business. And when I hear these people say that they have the right to take my work because it's on the web, I get a little worked up. I should also have the right to just take their writing too and make some money off it, right? What would they think if the shoe was on the other foot? Off my soap box now! As you can tell, i am quite passionate about this subject matter! LOL!
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Completely agree; the original and own work is not valued enough, it takes a good time to make a beautiful shot and even more writing a favorable and good text that expresses well the meaning of said photo
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While you point out that it isn't ok to simply credit the source, and further point out that it is illegal to not credit the source, or to credit the wrong source, I am confident that linking to the source is entirely legal. Links are what the web is built on. Perhaps I am misunderstanding your comments on this matter. Thanks!
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You can provide just a link, but you can’t copy the photograph and then link. That's Copyright infringement. Pure linking without the swiped image being in your post is not considered copyright infringement, but no one does that. Everyone wants the free eyecandy of the actual image. If you copy an image and provide the CORRECT ORIGINAL SOURCE you have avoided plagiarism which is not illegal, but you have not avoided copyright infringement which is illegal! I think you did misunderstand. 😊
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Truth is that linking to a pictures source is not enough. If the creator of the art/photo/article etc. has not given permission to use the content, then you must curate the content. Curated content is now a growing game online. If anyone curated content, they must add a significant amount of their own content to wrap around the content that has been curated. This is why there's so much of the same type of content being posted online, 250 or more blog posts containing almost exactly the same content! By the way, are you still involved in the #hardfork series? Good to see ya!
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I follow the principals, but have not been called upon to contribute. It's an exciting production, and I am impressed with the personnel involved. I am sure that if they feel I can contribute, they will call upon me. I'd point out that I inquired of you before even saving your work, despite your open offer of it for use for folks. I have no interest in stealing from creators. If linking to source isn't sufficient to meet legal obligations for copyright, the entire internet is a crime.
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