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True in a way! IMO the issue is not so much that the AI overlords have enslaved us - yet - but that this tech is weaponized by those in power and that the propaganda machines are running at 100% to engulf this into the flanking psyops to make the general public think and feel this is "normal". 

Dear Piotr,

thanks for commenting! Regarding consequences for responsible parties engaging in this not much has changed compared to intelligence agencies practices of the past. What's new is the much more devastating punch of this and almost effortless "sense making" of collected information that most cant even begin to grasp.

Before blanket surveillance was of limited use because of the missing tech to go through vast amounts of mostly unstructured data. Effective use of data collections therefore had to be narrowed down in the collection process already.

...and regulations... of course the would be needed and are used in part in the private sector arena. But those 3 letter agencies with - for example in the USA - official backing of adjusted laws and things like fisa "tribunals" won't be touched by any, more liberal regulation attempts. 09/11 has changed everything in this regard and the use of AI tech is just the next level weaponization in this field.

I'm afraid that this war is already lost even if it seems that "we" could win a battle or two.

Cheers!

## Thanks for your comment!

It seems fair to boil this down to the core of security vs. privacy and personal freedom and who in his clear mind argue against personal safety or the safety of a society as a whole!

...but (you probably knew there may come a but here) it's exactly what we are trained to believe!

Let me drop this quote in here before I continue...

#### _"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)"_

Of course one generalization is as bad a the other...

...but there's more to this and it's a lot at stake if we don't tread carefully here!

For instance, try to draw a line, your personal line in the sand so to say, for what would be an acceptable level of privacy loss to you!

Then maybe think through what one could do with your data that you've effectively have given up ownership to with that line in the sand.

Also maybe consider that beyond the initial privacy loss to your trusted, yes I must assume that you trust here, government agencies secondary parties could gain access to the intelligence collected on you.

Try to think about the possibility that this knowledge about you could be turned against you, your family and friends, your coworkers... to cut it short possibly against all in your social environment.

Also please keep in mind that what seems socially acceptable now and within law now can change rapidly.

The category of the "I have nothing to hide'rs" mostly quickly change their mind, to a certain extent, if they think about some aspects of privacy and personal freedom. 

In my experience it's a lack of awareness in this field as well as unwillingness to actively inform themselves bundled with "blind" authority trust that leads to this general compliance in these matters.

I can only recommend that people start digging a little deeper into this field. 

There are a lot of resources out there that are easily accessible to most of us... (if your in China you might have to use a VPN to get though the "Big Chinese Firewall"). 

Hmh... it's probably is no coincidence that totalitarian states not only use tight surveillance measures but also control their citizens access to information, right? 

To ensure their control over their citizens they also push for a cashless society and establish a social scoring system. With state of the art AI powered surveillance tech and automated profiling mechanisms they can automate much of the control over their societies. 

You crossed the street on a red light... public shaming on large public screens and in the internet for all of your compatriots to see and of course ticket. You fail to comply again... that'll be a reduction of your social score. You drop below a certain level it's no luxury items for you anymore. How do they do that, well they simply automatically limit your access to these goods by adjusting the capabilities of your electronic credits. You might have sufficient credits but you'll be blocked form using them for other things besides the essentials like water and bread maybe... yeah, toilet paper of course you can maybe still buy toilet paper but no moist wipes for you anymore! They'll beat you into compliance with these control instruments without even touching you.

Ah, you think that's to Orwellian 1984ish?

Nah, sorry it's actually happening like this already in China. Oh and you want to know what the arguments of this regime are for doing this? You probably guessed it already... it's for the greater good of the society 
and the  __S E C U R I T Y__  of the society.

Well, China is far away from the United States, or Europe or France and we have democratic elected politicians that independently do their jobs and that wouldn't dare to not respect their constitutions, right?

...and all that AI powered surveillance tech in these "western" countries is just for our security and you don't have to be afraid if you got nothing to hide, right?

People in other countries want to live secure also, so the revolutionary guards in Iran and the security people in Saudi Arabia, that occasionally will kill some dissidents but hey, big picture they want to make sure that their societies are secure, all have their peoples best interests in mind. Yeah... for sure!

Ah, middles east, east totalitarian regimes... you might say what has that to do with us here?

Maybe not much besides the fact that it's always about control and not only - if ever even - about security!

In that regard the intelligence communities around the world are the same to me. They might be adversaries state vs state but on the same level they want to control their societies!

...and if it's not them nation states it's the big international corporations that widen their control grip totally free of lame things like borders or in part free local state jurisdictions. Damn, these companies are built by people that became billionaires. How did that happen? Well, they're so much smarter than all of us so it's probably just fair and good for us to let them do their thing because they know best what's good for all of us plebs.

It's really not much different it's all and always about control!

Besides my little rant here, maybe you want to inform yourself a bit about why privacy matters... and why it should be important to all of us!

A good entry point to this can be this here imho.

https://steemit.com/privacy/@doifeellucky/privacy-why-you-should-care
https://www.privacyrights.org/why-privacy-0

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I've also created a little AI article series if your interested...

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  * [AI in the now... AI in retail... for example Amazon.go... more convinience at the price of total privacy loss?](https://steemit.com/ai/@doifeellucky/ai-in-the-now-ai-in-retail-for-example-amazon-go-more-convinience-at-the-price-of-total-privacy-loss)

  * [AI in the now... Image processing, X-ray diagnosis...](https://steemit.com/ai/@doifeellucky/ai-in-the-now-image-processing-x-ray-diagnosis)

  * [AI in the now... AI in medicine... another example. The surprising use of rather inconspicuous data sets...](https://steemit.com/ai/@doifeellucky/ai-in-the-now-ai-in-medicine-another-example-the-surprising-use-of-rather-inconspicuous-data-sets)

  * [AI in the now... China, "security" and "efficiency" vs individual freedom?](https://steemit.com/ai/@doifeellucky/ai-in-the-now-china-security-and-efficiency-vs-individual-freedom)

  * [AI in the now… Big tech companies… Google…](https://steemit.com/ai/@doifeellucky/ai-in-the-now-big-tech-companies-google)

  * [AI in the now… autonomous driving cars… status quo... ethics?](https://steemit.com/ai/@doifeellucky/ai-in-the-now-autonomous-driving-cars-status-quo-ethics)

  * [AI in the now… AI and robotics…](https://steemit.com/ai/@doifeellucky/ai-in-the-now-ai-and-robotics)

  * [AI in the now… media, communication, filter bubbles, weaponized social media…](https://steemit.com/ai/@doifeellucky/ai-in-the-now-media-communication-filter-bubbles-weaponized-social-media)
* [AI in the now… fully autonomous weapons systems (FAW)…
]( https://steemit.com/ai/@doifeellucky/ai-in-the-now-fully-autonomous-weapons-systems-faw)

* [AI in the now… what changes for industries… what might change for all of us?](https://steempeak.com/ai/@doifeellucky/ai-in-the-now-what-changes-for-industries-what-might-change-for-all-of-us)

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Cheers!

Indeed! 

Thanks for your comment!

This is the perfect reply to those who think "I'm a law abiding citizen and I have nothing to hide".

There's so much awareness in this general complex missing that it's flat out scary how many are uninformed about this and have blind trust for their governments, police, military and intelligence agencies. 

The thing about privacy is that a few can indeed spoil it for all of us!

For you my friend, who experienced close up to what this can boil down too, it's a first hand experience and an adjusted OpSec to protect your privacy surely has become second nature already! 

We should never give up on informing everybody about why privacy matters and what a lack of this can lead too!

Thanks again!

Cheers!

Thanks for your comment!

Wow I sure hope you're right about the crypto empowering thing my friend! 

I'm not so sure though about this to be frank! 

I see real dangers that the push toward cashless societies and the rise of crypto to compensate for missing cash can do a lot of harm to all of us when used as an control instrument for those in power!

In the current state of things an investigator (friend or foe) cannot wish for a better set of cards then people using crypto unless they had an over average OpSec and used Monero for instance.

I guess that the broadened use of more and more easily available AI tech will make it hard for any regulation attempts in any country to even grasp the possibilities of this to effectively put a foot down in this arena.

The projections that are commonly dropped on crypto as a fix far beyond of a cashless and trustless peer to peer payment system go very far. 

I love much of the ideas behind this but I'm too much of a realist not to accept that the anarchist wet dreams in this simply won't happen for the most part. 

Anyhow... that's a little off topic in here. 

Again thank you very much for your comment! Greatly appreciated!

Cheers!

Thank you for your comment!

ECHOLON was like analog to digital in a sense. At times massive data collection, mostly though pinpointed/targeted, and the data was manually analyzed in most cases. Unthinkable with the massive data growth in our modern through and through built on communication societies. Today's surveillance tech is in many cases build on blanket data collection and using AI based analytics to sift through these immense data capacities. Since there is no pre-qualification/selection of surveillance targets and everything is collected we are all in danger that our data privacy in breached on a permanent basis. The possibilities to use AI profiling techniques that make use of all kinds of rather inconspicuous data sets isn't just science fiction but already a reality.

Check out this article here in this regard if you want to:

https://steemit.com/ai/@doifeellucky/ai-in-the-now-ai-in-medicine-another-example-the-surprising-use-of-rather-inconspicuous-data-sets

Cheers!

Thanks for commenting! 

I'm convinced that we have to do more in terms of bringing awareness to this! At the moment much of what is going on with personal freedom, data privacy and misuse of AI technologies somehow seems to drift into the modern day white noise. 

People are "trained" to accept these things as a given and you can hear/read again and again "that surveillance happens anyway" or "let the 3 letter agencies see what I do on social media" or the worst kind "I have nothing to hider's" that, excuse my french, piss on the privacy of all of us! 

They don't even grasp what not engaging or what giving up this fight means to all of us. The weirdest thing to me is it's like "in your face"... just look to what happens in China where the cashless society is social scored based on widespread AI powered surveillance tech. The tech is available everywhere and the people fall in droves for the "price you have to pay for security is to give up your privacy" mantra voiced by those who work relentlessly to extend control and power over all of us.

I say no! Enough already! This already has gone way to far! Wake up!

https://media.giphy.com/media/zg5STezidLaZW/giphy.gif

Cheers!

Sad... unusable for me!

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