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The true is not complete without the other side of the moon - A Hive story by doze

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· @doze ·
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The true is not complete without the other side of the moon - A Hive story
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**It's time to know the other side of the moon**

#### Context: Street Workout Community

Street Workout Community (@swc-oficial) is a Venezuelan Hive Community created by Manuel Ramos (@manuelramos) dedicated to extreme urban sports, with which seems a good engagement, acceptance, onboard and energy, one of the biggest projects funded by @valueplan to organize Street Workout events and promote Hive Brand, in 155K HBD trough Manuel's alt account @marscrea.
 
**Suddenly something happened, as you can see from these screenshots from the SWC Twitter account.**
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Valueplan is no longer sending HBD to marscrea but still supporting and sending HBD to SWC through @swc-oficial, swc-oficial is an account created by Manuel Ramos but at the time of the tweets someone changed the owner keys to @swc-recupera, swc-recupera is an account created also at that time by @aliento and I suppose owned by aliento, aliento is an account owned by @eddiespino and @theycallmedan, theycallmedan is one of the keyholders of valueplan.
All this with the coincidence that at same time, Manuel Ramos and his secondary accounts (or at least some of them) are in powerdown mode with the Withdraw Vesting Route to eddiespino.

#### Manuel Ramos version
I invited Manuel Ramos to talk about of what happened and give his version of the story.

Here is Manuel Ramos version
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Ok, let's start, since I started the development of SWC within Hive for me it has been a great challenge, the truth is that I never believed that we would receive so much funding and in such an organic way.
I particularly do not believe in the "leadership" that has been imposed by hand in the Hispanic community (the Venezuelan), the truth is that here many do not get along with each other and pretend to get along with each other for reasons of interest.
When I became aware of this dynamic I decided to dissociate myself and stay away from many people that I once had a lot of affection for, I think that from that moment on the hatred, harassment and resentment of many towards me began to become evident as the project progressed.

My friend, I do not believe in "that false diplomacy" that many here in Hive practice, I believe in the true sense of collective community but not in the centralist power structure that still prevails in Hive.

SWC has been a complete school for me, the lives of many young people have been transformed through the use of this technology, Mr. Guilty Parties has been one of the few who have believed and supported this project despite so many complex situations that predestined the end of this project or my person within this ecosystem.

I think there is no other user in this ecosystem that has received so much harassment from a few envious, spiteful, incapable, etc, I'm not going to lie to you, I do not have an easy going personality, I am quite insistent, determined and with a dominant character and obviously I am a leader since I was in the womb of the woman who brought me to this world and earthly plane.

I have been accused of so many things, that I don't even remember how many accusations I have about myself, all of them products of gossip, gossip born of envy and hatred (of that I have no doubt).

As the user (@xmanuelramos) says, I actually got into debt both inside and outside Hive, all to give it even more support and continue growing in Hive without asking so much money to Valueplan.

Some debts I could pay and some I could not, but I always pay (sooner or later I do). One of those debtors is a well known Hispanic leader who wanted to manipulate me or blackmail me with giving or taking away my support to SWC if I did not do what he was telling me to do. That is coercion and as much appreciation and respect as I have for that gentleman I could not allow myself to fall into his web of manipulation.

They blackmailed me with taking away the support of the community and thus losing even more credibility in this ecosystem, the truth is that I have given my heart to this project, I am not in it for the money, however, the money has come to us as a result of hard work and dedication.

I was forced to hand over my keys, I did it, I didn't put up any opposition, so that way I could defend the community that I built through effort, determination and passion for my sport.

Now we have again the control of our keys, the power and governance, SWC is not and will not be the petty cash of the conspirator group, SWC belongs to a great collective not only Venezuelan, remember that SWC is developed simultaneously in other nations.

You see, because I don't like to answer before so many accusations, because I have to spend at least two hours to think about what I write and say, since everyone here gives the interpretation they want and suits them to my words.

SWC is again under our governance and all thanks to the mediation of Hive Governance, that governance you sometimes attack so much.

Hive is very complex, however, Hive has been transforming the life and reality of many souls!

Brother I don't know who you are, but you spend a lot of time on this, I just hope you can visit our community (https://hive.blog/trending/hive-108943) and leave some support to some users. I invite you to visit the posts of our young people, young people who have spent months of training and induction on Web 3 and Hive (this is not paid by Valueplan) we do it for the passion and love for this.

Finally and let it be clear, I am not interested in defending myself and save my reputation, many here make very dirty moves for money, thank God I am away from them and SWC will be away from them, I just hope that Hive will be purified and remove the power to some who have been dedicated to harm the name of the blockchain with their actions, with nothing more to say, I tried to be as honest with you.

Hey, I forgot, if you check the Valueplan wallet, you will notice that I am not the only one who is accountable, I know to whom I am accountable or not, (everything here is public), so public that, if I buy something or acquire some product or service everyone knows about it XD. Since a long time ago I lost my privacy, because, even if you find it hard to believe or use this as a joke or make fun of me, I have been under constant harassment from certain people who are part of this ecosystem (some Venezuelan so-called leaders) and yet governance has done nothing to end it, On the contrary, people who have tried to harm me are sent to conferences, they give more marketing impact roles without realizing that what they are doing is doing great harm to the ecosystem, but in the end, the "bad" one is me and I think that's what counts for many.

In the meantime, we will continue on the road to Success!

Let's go for more!

Mars.
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**From his response things that I found serious**
harassment, manipulation, blackmail, forced to hand over hive keys, coercion. I repeat
## harassment, manipulation, blackmail, forced to hand over hive keys, coercion


Now, I think it's fair and necessary have the other side of the story and version, for that I will invite @eddiespino and since SWC is a project where valueplan put faith and effort, maybe @theycallmedan or @guiltyparties, to give their version of the story and if possible to have the answer for the 2 questions below.
 
**Questions without response so far**
Who is in charge of the binance's account with the memo tx 100290200 used by @swc-oficial?
Who have the keys of @marscrea account?

Thanks in advance for your collaboration!

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@antisocialist ·
Having a history of working our issues out publicly, transparently has value for the chain, iyam.
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@doze ·
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Yeah like the oligarchs do, the fewer people know the better for the system 🤟
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@blanchy ·
Once again great work my friend. The same pillars of our glorious community keep cropping up with some shady dealings that everyone can see on the blockchain. It's laughable really.  Seeing that everyone is sending you songs I thought I'd add one myself which is the primary theme of your post.
 https://youtu.be/t5KU34DrrPI
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@doze ·
Prepare your YouTube skills because I have more coming soon lol
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@eddiespino ·
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>Who is in charge of the binance's account with the memo tx 100290200 used by @swc-oficial?

Maybe you don't know this, but the memos changed for everyone when the Binance deposit address changed from @deepcrypto8 to @bdhivesteem. My memo changed, too. That's why you don't see the same memo in the transactions, but as far as I know, the new memo belongs to Manuel because he still receives funds on the swc-oficial account.

I have the keys to marscrea, but this account has not received any funds since I got them. By mistake, 10 HBDs were sent by valueplan, and I sent them to swc-oficial, as you can see on the chain. I'm powering that account and two others that belong to Manuel to recover at least part of the money he still owes me. The amount that he owes me is none of your business.

Like 90% of the people he interacts with, I had a problem with Manuel. I was patient; it took me two years to end the relationship with him. Others don't even last a week or a few days. Long story short, he wanted to give up on the project, and he sent the keys to me and another SWC, who ultimately didn't take over the leadership of SWC. I saved the keys and planned to do nothing with them. Then the problem escalated, and they (the whole SWC Community, not only Manuel) threatened to leave Hive, yes, after receiving more than 160K USD. So, I changed the keys of the accounts. But then I gave them back to Guilty Parties, and he gave them to the SWC leader, who is still Manuel. They are not leaving Hive. It was just an empty threat.

I'm not supporting Manuel anymore with curation from aliento/tcmd. However, I'm still voting for some of the athletes' posts on the SWC community, and I'm also voting for other athletes' posts in Full Deportes. Some of these athletes were expelled from SWC because they had personal problems with Manuel.

I agree with Manuel about something. Why do you spend so much time on this? You are making suppositions and taking things out of context. And from all the Hive users, you are one of the ones who needs less explanation because of your stake.
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@doze ·
Thanks for your response! Appreciate!

I think the circle (both versions) is closed now.
I'm not interested in personal conflicts but hope you can manage that for the goods of all.
I'm interest, like others also are, on this is because there is dhf money involved, and some words in Manuel's explanation, it's not nice taking keys by coercion, this is Hive Blockchain, this is not a gang, I hope! If Manuel is saying the true, of course!

Now, gently, can you please explain at you mean by "making suppositions and taking things out of context". What supposition did you read on post and tell me what is out of context to be corrected or give a context, if it is the case. I made the post on mobile phone and maybe I didn't rechecked enough what I wrote.

> And from all the Hive users, you are one of the ones who needs less explanation because of your stake.

This part ☝️ blow my mind lol
Do you mean that your 7,7k stake need, or deserve, more explanation than my 3,5k stake, are we mesuring anything here? 🤔 
If you want to rephrase this, be my guest, it my be something lost in translation or something.
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@eddiespino ·
I will not comment further on this. I'd rather spend my time doing something productive. I hope you understand.
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@manuelramos ·

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<div class="text-justify"><div class="pull-left">¡Hola doze! Primero quiero hacerte una corrección, SWC no es una comunidad venezolana, es una comunidad global que cree desde Venezuela, actualmente estamos en mas de 4 Países, sin contar con los países en donde estamos haciendo formación hacia los atletas.

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Nosotros no solemos crearle una cuenta de usuario a alguien y ya, nosotros primero procedemos a a darles a los futuros usuarios una formación en el mundo de la Web 3 por medio de SWC en Hive. 

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Es decir, todo lo que hacemos es absolutamente metódico, no creo que esos talleres en Telegram, o esas “clases” donde hablan de web 3 y dejan a las personas más confundidas, realmente creo que el odio que me tienen, no es por dinero, o por mis deudas, o por la falta de “transparencia”, créeme aquí hay mucho que tienen sus círculos de intereses donde uno se solapa con el otro (esos son los primeros que suelen atacarme). 


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Estas son las cuentas secundarias mías: @manuelramos, @manuellramoss, @los7maresdemars, @theycallmemars, @marscrea (esta es la cuenta con la cual deseo ser testigo algún momento) y creo que @thrash-master. Todo comenzó por que supuestamente yo a esas cuentas desviaba los recursos.


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Las cuentas de la Comunidad no las considero como tal de mi propiedad, ya que son cuentas comunitarias bajo el manejo de nosotros (SWC).

Problema resuelto:

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Por medio de una carta malvada (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0yhybGb3Eo) hasta le dediqué y todo esta esa canción a todo lo que pasó. 
Bueno, por medio de esa carta, literal era (o haces lo que yo digo o estas en problemas), yo desde que comencé en el desarrollo de SWC, fui la mira de unos cuantos y unas cuantas. Yo quiero victimizarme, pero creeme cuando te digo, hay unos cuantos que religiosamente predican un odio hacia mi y mi proyecto por ser quien soy; (Soy moreno, de pensamiento de izquierda, gay, no soy hipócrita y tampoco interesado, digo lo que pienso y opino) etc, esta gente me detesta, solo por haber desarrollado uno de los proyectos más improbables de crearse dentro de la blockchain Hive. Ese mérito jamás, nadie podrá quitármelo, son noches enteras, horas en madrugadas, lágrimas y mucha frustraciones, complots (uno tras otro, uno tras otro “pero el dramático y tóxico soy yo  Manuel Ramos”). 

 Yo tengo nuevamente el control de la gobernanza de SWC, ahora somos más atletas lo que tenemos comunicación directa con la gobernanza (ahora no soy yo nada más), no pueden decir: Manuel tiene todo bajo su control y poder y lo maneja a su antojo, todas y cada una de las decisiones que tomamos la tomamos bajo consenso. 

Al amigo Eddie y al amigo Dan le debo un poco más de 6000$ tengo entendido, (deudas dentro de Hive), fuera de Hive debo un poco más de 7000 mil dólares.

Porque debo tanto dinero @doze: Pues amigo, yo trabajo con chicos de bajo recursos, créeme que me importa poco lo que puedan especular, el dinero que he pedido prestado ha sido para ayudar a mi gente, a mis muchachos, a esos que tienen que hacer un post sin internet, sin teléfonos de gana media alta o baja y sin una computadora (esa es la realidad de la mayoría de los atletas que han entrado a SWC), sin embargo, la limitación de los recursos no ha sido una excusa para nosotros, hemos estado aquí por dos años desarrollando este gran sueño colectivo y global llamado SWC.

Lamento que, por el dinero, se haya fracturado una relación de mas de 3 años con el amigo Eddie, pues Eddie fue fundamental para el desarrollo y crecimiento de SWC, porque otro no hubiera apostado nada, NADA, SWC existe por mí, el apoyo de GP y el apoyo de Eddie en su momento.

Entonces, luego de todos estos trances, aquí estamos, aún de pie, con unos cuentos moretones y golpizas, pero de pie, no lograron destruirme y despojarme de SWC, bueno XD,  también querían colocar a dedo a otra persona en el liderazgo de SWC.

Antes recibíamos recursos desde @valueplan hacia @marscrea, ahora lo recibimos en @swc-oficial, hermano, sé que tanto yo como muchos hemos cometido muchos errores, acepto que algunas veces ciertas cosas escapan de mi mano, pero lo que han hecho contra mi la verdad es asquerosos e inaceptable, aun así, aquí seguimos, ahora somos más y nuestros métodos de formación y captación están dando excelentes resultados, mira OCD todas las semanas entran nuevos usuarios, mira SWC siempre hay usuarios activos. Este es mi memo en binance (100290200) eso lo manejo yo Manuel Ramos, marscrea y otras de mis cuentas las tiene Eddie haciendo power down para tomar el Hive que está ahí para recuperar parte de la deuda (la verdad no se si eso sea correcto, pero así ejercen algunos el poder en Hive), esta era mi antigua adress (107675567) para binance pero eso cambio a (100290200).

#

Para finalizar no odie a Eddie, pero el respeto y el afecto que tenía por el se quebrantó luego de haber actuado de esa manera hacia mi (aún cuando siempre fui tan franco, directo y sincero con el), pero tristemente no logré asumir con responsabilidad mis deudas y eso fue el detonante para que todo esto pasara. 

SWC sigue firme, su liderazgo sigue firme, ahora hay mucha más sabiduría y compromiso. A SWC no solo es propiedad de Manuel Ramos, sino de un gran colectivo dentro y fuera de Hive.

#

Por cierto, deberías citar a Natalia Loreto y algunos quienes afirman que incluso me compré un apartamento con recursos de Value Plan. (aún estamos esperando las pruebas XD “Envidiosos, Chismes, chismes, chismes e intrigas por doquier trabajen en pro de Hive es lo que deben hacer”).

#
¡Gracias por leerme y llegar hasta aquí!

Vamos por más

#

Mars.
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<div class="text-justify"><div class="pull-right">Hello doze! First I want to make a correction, SWC is not a Venezuelan community, it is a global community that I created from Venezuela, we are currently in more than 4 countries, not counting the countries where we are doing training for athletes.

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We do not usually create a user account for someone and that's it, we first proceed to give future users a training in the world of Web 3 through SWC in Hive. 

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I mean, everything we do is absolutely methodical, I don't think those workshops on Telegram, or those "classes" where they talk about web 3 and leave people more confused, I really believe that the hatred they have for me, is not because of money, or my debts, or the lack of "transparency", believe me here there are many who have their circles of interests where one overlaps with the other (those are the first ones who usually attack me). 

#

These are the secondary accounts of mine: @manuelramos, @manuellramoss, @los7maresdemars, @theyycallmemars, @marscrea (this is the account I wish to witness sometime) and I think @thrash-master. It all started because I was supposedly diverting resources to those accounts.

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The Community accounts I do not consider as such my property, as they are community accounts under the management of us (SWC).

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Problem solved:

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Through an evil letter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0yhybGb3Eo) I even dedicated this song to everything that happened. 


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Well, through that letter, literally it was (either you do what I say or you're in trouble), I have been the target of a few men and women since I started in SWC development. I not want to victimize myself, but believe me when I tell you, there are a few who religiously preach hatred towards me and my project for being who I am; (I am brown, left thinking, gay, I am not hypocritical and not interested, I say what I think and I think) etc, these people hate me, just for having developed one of the most improbable projects to be created within the Hive blockchain. No one will ever be able to take that merit away from me, it's all nights, hours in the wee hours of the morning, tears and a lot of frustrations, plots (one after another, one after another "but the dramatic and toxic one is me Manuel Ramos"). 


#


 I am again in control of the governance of SWC, now we are more athletes who have direct communication with the governance (now it's not just me), they can't say: Manuel has everything under his control and power and manages it at his whim, each and every decision we make is made under consensus. 


#


To friend Eddie and friend Dan I owe a little more than 6000$ I understand, (debts inside Hive), outside Hive   a little more than 7000 thousand dollars.


#


Why do I owe so much money @doze: Well my friend, I work with low income athletes, believe me I don't care what they can speculate, the money I have borrowed has been to help my people, my guys, those who have to make a post without internet, without high or low middle income phones and without a computer (that is the reality of most of the athletes who have entered SWC), however, the limitation of resources has not been an excuse for us, we have been here for two years developing this great collective and global dream called SWC.


#


I regret that, because of money, a relationship of more than 3 years with friend Eddie has been fractured, as Eddie was fundamental to the development and growth of SWC, because another would have bet nothing, NOTHING, SWC exists because of me, GP's support and Eddie's support at the time.


#


So, after all these trances, here we are, still standing, with a few bruises and beatings, but standing, they didn't manage to destroy me and strip me of SWC, well XD, they also wanted to place someone else in the leadership of SWC.


#


Before we received resources from @valueplan to @marscrea, now we receive it in @swc-official, brother, I know that both me and many have made many mistakes, I accept that sometimes certain things escape my hand, but what they have done against me the truth is disgusting and unacceptable, even so, here we continue, now we are more and our methods of training and recruitment are giving excellent results, look OCD every week new users enter, look SWC there are always active users. This is my memo in binance (100290200) that is managed by me Manuel Ramos, marscrea and other of my accounts have Eddie doing power down to take the Hive that is there to recover part of the debt (the truth I do not know if that is correct, but this is how some exercise power in Hive), this was my old adress (107675567) for binance but that change to (100290200).


#


Finally I didn't hate Eddie, but the respect and affection I had for him was broken after he acted that way towards me (even though I was always so frank, direct and sincere with him), but sadly I failed to take responsibility for my debts and that was the trigger for all this to happen. 


#


SWC is still going strong, its leadership is still strong, now there is much more wisdom and commitment. SWC is not only owned by Manuel Ramos, but by a great collective inside and outside Hive.


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By the way, you should quote Natalia Loreto and some who claim that I even bought a flat with Value Plan resources. (we are still waiting for proof XD "Envious, gossips, gossips, gossips, gossips and intrigues everywhere work for Hive is what you should do").


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Thanks for reading me and making it this far!


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Let's go for more
Mars.

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@doze · (edited)
Thanks for your response again.
I'm not interested in personal conflicts between you and some. I just hope you and they can manage that and all finish well.
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And I just hope these people will leave me alone once and for all! 
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@manuelramos ·
|Posdata: Estoy esperando aún las pruebas del apartamente que "según muchos" aseguran que me compré!. |P.S. I am still waiting for the proofs of the apartment that "according to many" claim I bought!|
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@doze ojalá entendieras el castellano, le dedico esta canción a todos esos que partiendo de su miseria humana han actuado contra de SWC y mi persona! 


> @doze I wish you understood Spanish, I dedicate this song to all those who, out of their human misery, have acted against SWC and me! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jxNusr0tE

<center>Me he dado cuenta que la verdad es tan relativa
Y la realidad es tanta mentira...
Perros tratando de invadir mi propiedad privá' mientras dormía
Buscando robar mis hembras, mis reales, mi comida
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Qué gran verdad en esa frase se esconde
Me siento como un loco al tratar de confiar yo todavía
En alguien, en el planeta de la hipocresía
¡Válgame, soy un iluso! Tan bravo que me la doy y el abuso
Es natural que en contra de mí den uso
Mundo sucio donde todos piensan solo en ellos mismos
Malditos mil veces, títeres del egoísmo
Esta es pa' ti, pa' ti, tú que me traicionaste a mí
Me das la mano, con tu cara 'e "Yo no fui"
Y yo inocente te la di porque todavía no sabía
Que tu risita venía con la fecha ya vencía'</center>
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@mypathtofire ·
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This looks like you have been partnering with Hive's leading reporter McGarnicle @blanchy. 
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Mcgarnicle is being called back from investigating last month's Splinterlands boardroom vote to investigate this peculiarity. 
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@mypathtofire ·
Looking forward to your report McGarnicle!
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Yeah 🤣🤣
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@roadstories ·
Some may think it is a personal matter for you, some others and even me. But the truth is that these things are happening in our Blockchain, something that involves also a project as important as DHF and valueplan.

Given the doubts and possible irregularities, it is important that the community knows the truth and can clarify all the doubts and gaps they have. 

I read something in particular that made me quite noise, and I can only say that Hive is a decentralized community, created by the community and for the community, when we say community I believe that we do not make distinctions of our stake here. 

This is quite worrying, especially because I am participating in a constant campaign where our discourse is "decentralization of a web created by a community for the community" on web 2 to attract people, influencers and investors. 

I would not want to give them to understand that it is a false discourse when they see comments made with some annoyance or ego by people who have influence on our Blockchain.
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@doze ·
> comments made with some annoyance or ego by people who have influence on our Blockchain

What influence?
In Portugal there is a kind of proverb that says something like this "I look like a big man in my dad's pants."
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@doze ·
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Have enough? 😁
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@manuelramos ·
|Ay Dios, ustedes me generan ansiedad, creí que con los usuarios hispanos (los súper líderes) ya tenía suficiente XD. Ya procedo, nuevamente a dar una respuesta.|Oh God, you guys make me anxious, I thought I had enough with the Hispanic users (the super leaders) XD.I'll proceed, again to give an answer.|
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Just buckling up for the bumpy ride 🤭
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