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· @dragosroua · (edited)
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The Blocks For This Coin Are Confirming So Slow That I Think They’re Being Sent Via The Post Office
I just saw this line in a crypto slack room and it made me crack so hard, I had to share it :)) I had the choice to make a meme out of it, but I'm lazy. 

Besides, there's something to ponder here as well. Something to think about...

We all take for granted the fact that blocks in whatever blockchain we're interested in will be confirmed at some point, or, in other words, that the word will keep moving. There are so many projections banking on the fact that the blockchain will keep on going. 

But just think for a while. If tomorrow all service providers will block the port 8333, Bitcoin will simply cease to exist. No more blocks will be exchanged via p2p. So the transport protocol - and security - is just as important (if not more important) as the consensus engine. It doesn't really matter if we agree on something, if nobody else knows that, right?

So, thinking of a safer way to transport blocks, one that doesn't rely on legacy systems which can be easily shut down by a third party, does seem like a useful pastime.
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@andybets ·
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I've never really thought about this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! 

If they use the same port and protocol as most of the Internet (i.e. HTTPS on port 443), they're safe from this? Steem RPC does, so should be ok, whilst the RPC servers can stay afloat!

To shut that down, they'd have to turn off the Internet as we know it, or commandeer the DNS servers, which I think is their usual approach.
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@dragosroua ·
The attack surface is so big, that they can start from anywhere, if they really want. If you don't think this is possible, look at China and at _their_ internet, which is basically a glorified intranet.
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@andybets ·
I've never looked into how China censor their 'Internet'. Do they not just block most cross gateway SSL connections, and do packet inspection on unencrypted traffic?
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@anonimnotoriu · (edited)
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I think @dan touched upon this topic a little bit in his 2015 interview with @lovejoy and @roadscape.

>...freeing of the internet infrastructure from monopolization and that means innovating in areas as wireless communication and decentralized production. Because if we can all communicate directly from person to person without any wires it's game over [for censorship].

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQri6lBa9VY

I asked if a peer-to-peer internet is possible in one of my [previous posts](https://steemit.com/technology/@anonimnotoriu/is-a-peer-to-peer-internet-possible) and I speculate that this will be @dan's next challenge and project in a few years once he's finished creating and implementing EOS.
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@dragosroua ·
Thanks a lot for the link, I'll look into it. A peer-to-peer publishing platform backed by blockchain is possible, but using torrents for storage and hashes stored in a blockchain OP_RETURN opcode. It's already done in a project I'm closely following, Slimcoin, the latest client allows for serverless "publications'. 

But the real challenge is to rewrite even the low level protocols of blockchain and torrent servers and clients.
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@arckrai ·
'The Blocks For This Coin Are Confirming So Slow That I Think They’re Being Sent Via The Post Office' lmfao, this put a smile on my face.
Seems like people would rather use post offices rather than paying these transaction fees.
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@awkward-cookie ·
This deserves some attention. Upvoted and resteemed...
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@bescouted · (edited)
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Yeah, it was supposed to be all about security and decentralization. An event that can be stopped by nobody. That was the beauty. But it's selling out it seems. I would never invest in a blockchain that could be potentially shut down by government or any third party.  Sent via the post office in wagons pulled by horses.
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@dragosroua ·
The current blockchain transport protocol only _seems_ safer than post office wagons pulled by horses, because it's way, way faster. But when you get down to it, it's pretty much the same. There are shake hands made, semaphores to be obeyed and even speed bumps or crossroads. As it is right now, every crypto protocol can be shut down by the government or by whatever authority has the power to control the transporters.
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@bescouted ·
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Would be naive to think there are not considering the amount of money already involved. Well i am not that technical. Can't you just change the port and continue? Government can't shut all the ports. Though am not talking about this loud i have a theory that Bitcoin itself might be a government project.
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@blazing ·
hahah post office in this age of crypto LOL
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@codypanama ·
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" But just think for a while. If tomorrow all service providers will block the port 8333, Bitcoin will simply cease to exist. No more blocks will be exchanged via p2p." 
 Is this so? I've never looked at this angle. I knew about Bitcoin from way back and poo pooed it due to assumed Government intervention, Don't I feel the fool now LOL
 Every time I write anything negative about BTC I lose followers and make nothing The latest being [HERE](https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@codypanama/how-bitcoin-and-all-it-s-clones-will-die-when-is-anybody-guess-i-bet-the-process-has-already-begun-lets-at-least-talk-about-it) & [HERE](https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@codypanama/i-own-a-billion-bitcoin-adrresses-just-part-time-on-a-old-laptop-and-no-programing-skills-just-testing-the-waters-and-being) Nobody is interested in hearing about their cash cow dieing.
 I'm patiently waiting for the next level crypto that addresses all my issues.
And It will come along :-)
Thanks for a very thoughtful post ( Party pooper ) LOL
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@fkofficials ·
Great post ! Bitcoin block confirmed @fkofficials
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@heymattsokol ·
Nick szabo tweeted a great image relating to this - it showed how "Bitcoin is the most secure protocol, but it's peripherals are among the least secure"
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@knowledgehubb ·
Great aarticle
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@sebi99p ·
Indeed this is worrying. But there will always be people who push boundaries and find a new way. Progress can be slowed and shouldn't be forced, but it cannot be shut down forever. Censorship never really works long term.
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@sqamemal ·
$0.13
Post offices can still be used to transport blocks though, right?
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@dragosroua ·
but of course, dear Watson.
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@steem-buzz ·
$0.13
I'm trying to access steem.supply on chrome with metamask plugin. I get the following message:

"
ATTENTION

MetaMask has detected this domain to have malicious intent and has prevented you from interacting with it.

This is because the site was listed on the EtherAddressLookup malicious site blacklist.

You can turn MetaMask off to interact with this site, but it's advised not to. We blacklisted it for a reason.

You can donate to the blacklist maintainers if you want: 
"

I guess somebody listed your site on the blacklist, or may be hacked the site. It's off-topic, but I left this message here, because it was the easiest way. Once you reply to it I'll delete it.
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@dragosroua ·
It's not hacked, as far as I can see. I enabled bitcoin paying ad network a-ads a couple of weeks ago and it may be that some people saw some ads on that network, which looked fishy and reported them. I'm filtering all NSFW, Shady and Gambling ads from a-ads, but if the IP belongs to that network, then it will just fall under the filter. At least that's my opinion now... Will look into it further...

It may also be some dirty competition move, but who knows :)
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@steem-buzz ·
$1.55
This was my first assumption(dirty competition). But keep in mind your site is not accessible unless you disable the extension. Traffic is redirected to https://metamask.io/phishing.html. 

It seems the blacklist is updated via github https://github.com/409H/EtherAddressLookup. Though I couldn't see your url there when I took a quick look.  Hopefully if you investigate more you'll be able to find the root cause.
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