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· @duplibot · (edited)
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@duplibot downvoter asks, "Does the community support you?"
I've been working on a few new approaches that I'll post about separately soon, but in the process I got a reply [on this post](https://steemit.com/deutsch/@greentomorrow/re-anteilboerse-anteilhandel-tagespreis-20-04-18-und-memberkontostaende-20180420t144339213z) as well as a downvote from @miketr

![big_flag.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmanQXeYEzKSnTcrnv5MBv2WQxHH4P6K4AdtLCcmFFHr5N/big_flag.png)

Then, I was even more surprised that [he wrote this post](https://steemit.com/deutsch/@miketr/steemit-total-unglaubliche-ideen-um-votes-zu-bekommen) calling me out as a spammer who begs for upvotes.

I offered what I thought was [a thoughtful response](https://steemit.com/deutsch/@duplibot/re-miketr-steemit-total-unglaubliche-ideen-um-votes-zu-bekommen-20180420t163337833z), but @miketr offered these comments.

> the community will agree with you or me

> As I said the communty then decides

> also the community can you upvote now - if they trust you??!

Do you trust me? I guess I'm again asking for upvotes, the very behavior I am criticized for.

Would you consider [going to this post](https://steemit.com/deutsch/@miketr/steemit-total-unglaubliche-ideen-um-votes-zu-bekommen) and upvoting one of these comments.

- [The main comment](https://steemit.com/deutsch/@duplibot/re-miketr-steemit-total-unglaubliche-ideen-um-votes-zu-bekommen-20180420t163337833z)
- [Another comment](https://steemit.com/deutsch/@duplibot/re-miketr-re-duplibot-re-miketr-steemit-total-unglaubliche-ideen-um-votes-zu-bekommen-20180420t165259742z)
- [One more](https://steemit.com/deutsch/@duplibot/re-miketr-re-duplibot-re-miketr-steemit-total-unglaubliche-ideen-um-votes-zu-bekommen-20180420t165833546z)

This will let @miketr know how the community feels about @duplibot. And feel free to skip voting on this post if you vote my comments there!

I did think it was a little unfair to ask 'the community' how they feel about me--in the comments of *his* post--as the audience there would likely have an obvious bias for him. This post is to get the whole community involved in the discussion.

I suppose if I am wrong, you can all downvote me but that would more than surprise me because I've seen overwhelming support thus far and very few flags. That said, please comment here if you hold a negative view on my work as I continually look to the community for validation. I will not continue if there is not clear support for my work.

And finally, I know that, "Haters gonna hate" but I'm also looking for suggestions on how to respond to aggression such as this.
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@abh12345 ·
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Done.

I suggest and edit to the comment.

Asking, even politely as you have, for upvotes is actually considered spam/abuse.

I hope you still receive upvotes to support the project if/when the text is altered.
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@duplibot · (edited)
I genuinely appreciate the calm feedback and your support. I've been conflicted with my 'ask' from the start so I'm definitely going to find a new approach and change the text here.
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@duplibot ·
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[I have evolved](https://steemit.com/support/@duplibot/ways-to-support-duplibot) and found a better approach than asking for votes. Thanks again for your feedback 

![new_comment.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmVvywMe2G5ZaXXL1uiECN2fKedkxGDinz3eYsgAyyFmH4/new_comment.png)
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@miketr ·
Please dont give the downvote before reading whats happen!
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@abh12345 ·
I read the post by @duplibot and advised a small change in the text.

I don't understand why you feel the need to down vote the comment, the bot is making you aware that you have a spammer on your blog.
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@miketr ·
Now we are  all right? my flag removed but please have a look of your suportet @duplibot !!  I do it too ;-)
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@duplibot ·
Thanks for the votes, but I was hoping to get the votes in my comments, rather than this post, so @miketr can see those votes.

Would you all mind showing some love to these comments:

- [The main comment](https://steemit.com/deutsch/@duplibot/re-miketr-steemit-total-unglaubliche-ideen-um-votes-zu-bekommen-20180420t163337833z)
- [Another comment](https://steemit.com/deutsch/@duplibot/re-miketr-re-duplibot-re-miketr-steemit-total-unglaubliche-ideen-um-votes-zu-bekommen-20180420t165259742z)
- [One more](https://steemit.com/deutsch/@duplibot/re-miketr-re-duplibot-re-miketr-steemit-total-unglaubliche-ideen-um-votes-zu-bekommen-20180420t165833546z)
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@duplibot ·
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I am beyond happy to see that @miketr has removed his downvote!

![flag_removed.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmPV81GMrDz6HCFBweMYG9acLkDscHE556Hydbu3M2JfTh/flag_removed.png)

I know, I know, stop asking for votes, but if you would, head on over [to his blog](https://steemit.com/@miketr) and maybe throw a few votes his way?

I understand your frustrations @miketr but want to publicly thank you for giving me fair consideration and removing that downvote. I consider this further affirmation that my work is valuable for the community.
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@miketr ·
I get dayly manny Spams so i get angry with this! I Sorry have seen in you another Spammer!
Will have a look at your account ;-)
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@miketr ·
Also a Link to this Post in every Post from me about you!
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@miketr ·
First Time it looks like this New Account 500 SP!
Ok there is someone behind!
Flag removed!
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@soma909 ·
Thanks for alerting me to this account - I'll be sure to hit it up next time I play Das KENO. 
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@duplibot ·
Thanks for your continued support!
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@miketr ·
You are welcome to play Keno ;-)
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@trumanity ·
I dislike all spam, including bot generated spam like yours. If it's for a good cause and I trust the project behind the spam, i am more accepting. What I liked about your comment/spam was that yours informed and suggested. It gave me the option to go and discover for myself, and after satisfying myself the comment above yours WAS in fact spam, I did as you suggested - flagged the comment - and have no regrets having done so. You didn't beg me for my upvote or follow, I am here to learn if I ought to trust what you are doing.

As you ask for suggestion ro views on this matter, I will say two things.. the suggestion to flag the spammer is a bit direct. Leaving that out might help your cause. Maybe suggest to the reader to go investigate himself and leave it at that. People prefer believing they have made their own minds up. The offer to upvote the latest post, well.. if you want to be kind ;-) no one will reject an upvote.

Second thing, in your post here, you suggest again what the reader should do. Again, too strong. Let the haters hate and steem on.
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@duplibot ·
Seriously great feedback here, thank you.

I normally don't comment excessively like this, but this account has been commenting *every 30 seconds* and shows no signs of stopping. I've only been commenting half a day and the rep of this account has dropped from 11.6 to 7.76 and counting. My sole intent is to push it below zero so everything is hidden forever.

I've mentioned before that I'm continually evolving, particularly based on feedback like this from the community. I see all the same negative things you are pointing out, but I am also seeing tangible positive results from my work, including pushing two other accounts into zero rep, which helps to balance that out some but clearly I need to find a middle ground.

Thank you again, I hope it's clear at this point I both welcome and *implement* the feedback I'm receiving as I continue to evolve.
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@trumanity · (edited)
Please assist the community by leaving informative comments below the grumpycat spam too. That spammer does two major things 
1. abuses the flag because he or she disagrees with the account's use of a bid-bot, not as it should be - to disagree with payout based on an evaluation of the content as spam or fraud etc.
2. he places a comment which he then upvotes (very often well beyond the 3.5 days he demands we all abide by).

He removes rewards on great posts, and takes down even portions of the rewards that did not derive from the "no compliant bot". 

If there is objection to what you are doing, I am glad because it shows a healthy community, willing to analyse, question, and in the process refine what we have here. I wonder though, why not more objection and instead COMPLIANCE with such bullying and aggressive tactics as the grumpycat and madpuppy scatter all over the platform.

I thank you for trying to do the best thing and for your interaction.
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