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RE: The “Pit of Despair Experiment” Trump is Recreating by dwinblood

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· @dwinblood · (edited)
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No he is not.   We still have people coming here under asylum.   We simply do not accept EVERY person requesting it.

Post your address somewhere and tell people to come into your house.   Don't shut the door on them.   Let anyone that comes in your house live there, eat your food, etc.    Even if they can only sleep on the floor because your other rooms are full.   Let them in.

Of course I don't seriously expect you to do this unless you are stupid.

All of you in that house would be in a serious situation in time.

Simply wanting to help people doesn't mean we should disregard the reality of our situation.   We cannot take care of everyone that wants to live here.

About the only way that would be smart is if your goal is to collapse the U.S. economy, the government, and in the long run make a very dark time for everyone including those refugees.

Also they are not truly refugees.    Refugees are to go to the nearest port of entry.    That is not what these people do.

The children are in danger, but it is not Trump putting them in danger it is their parents.

Take the lady who had her daughter on Time that it turns out they started in Honduras, walked 1000+ miles (*probably road some too*) through the desert.   She kidnapped the child too.   Through the desert.   They didn't STOP in Mexico which is the first port of entry and what a "refugee" would do.

Instead she treks up to the U.S. and illegally crosses the border (*not for the first time either, she had been deported before*).

You have a door on your house for a reason.

We have doors to the country for the same reason.

Just like it is not okay to climb through the windows, or sneak through the garage it is not okay to intentionally avoid the port of entry.   It is a crime.   They are criminals, and THEY are the ones endangering the children.

There are a ton of homeless people... open your windows, open your door , and have people spread the word that your home is open.

See what happens.

If you are smart you meet people at the door and say "I'm not interested, not now, or come on in."   

This is what we do with immigration and asylum seekers.

We do not stupidly let anyone in that comes because we can virtue signal about compassion while totally screwing over people that are already there.

We don't feed them better meals than some of the people that already live here.

It's bullshit.

If you buy into it you are lying to yourself.   Use some reason and common sense.   It is not hard.

Feelings do not make things a fact.

EDIT: As to the links you shared.  I've seen tons of that.  I put together the @newsagg posts and intentionally try to look at many news sites, even ones I personally disagree with.

There are tons of articles.

So what?

Look up the term <a href="https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/21/Appeal-to-Authority">Argument from authority</a>.

I use simple reason, and common sense.  I don't let my emotions make me do stupid things that put myself and others at risk because it makes me feel good.  I think about long term implications.   I try to be rational.

In doing that... you can show me hundreds of links, especially in the Legacy Media and I'll simply tell you they appear to be idiots that don't know how to think for themselves, and don't use critical thinking.   That is my opinion and I can tell you disagree.    Yet, at least it might save you time sharing links with me that my research has shown are total bullshit propaganda pieces.
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@ceruleanblue ·
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Lol friendly Canadian here, and just thought I'd mention, you could be a tad bit more lenient on who you let in...

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/04/12/602022877/the-u-s-has-welcomed-only-11-syrian-refugees-this-year
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@dwinblood ·
Sure we could.   That doesn't mean we should.   If our homeless population was shrinking rather than growing I'd consider letting more people in.   However, we are having more and more of the people that already live here increasingly having problems.    We should solve that before we are stupid and add more people to it.

Studies have shown that illegal trespassers in our country actually cost the tax payers substantially more than someone who is already a citizen but struggling.

I prefer to be smart rather than let my compassion drive off a cliff.
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@ceruleanblue ·
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Honestly man, I don't disagree with you there. It does alot of damage in places we don't all see. Hopefully one day we will come up with a better solution. Every day I see new forms of generating money. Ironically the charitable methods tend to genereate less lol. Either way good words. Take it easy :)
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@funbobby51 ·
God bless you.
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@lucylin ·
pass it along...
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https://steemit.com/blog/@lucylin/my-memewar-contest-entry-for-the-informationwar
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@spiritualmatters ·
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Whew! 

It's safe to say you are passionate about this topic.

Best regards.

Peace.
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@dwinblood ·
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Yep.  I am passionate.   Mainly I want people to look at facts, and use reason rather than being enslaved by our emotions.   I can feel bad for children all over the place.    Realistically I cannot care for all of them without putting my own family in danger.   I help where I can, but I also try to use reason.   

We cannot even take care of all of the people that are already here and that is getting worse.   We are a country founded on immigration, but it was LEGAL immigration.    Much of our population came through ports of entry like Ellis Island.    Sometimes people were quarantined there for 8 months.

I am fine for people being concerned about children, and non-children.    Yet, they need to be really careful to make sure people are not playing upon their emotions and making things out to be something they are not.

Emotions have their purpose, and can be good.   If they rule us then we generally make a lot of stupid mistakes.

Now there is only ONE thing I can think of that would make all this open borders nonsense a smart thing.   That is if you endorse the vision of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy">Cloward and Piven</a> which I do not.

If that is your goal then blindly accepting people into the country and overwhelming the economy, the welfare system, housing, and the education system is a great idea.

Yet what they think will replace it would not happen.   It is a stupid idea.   It would take this place that all of these people want to come to legally, and illegally and make it just as bad as the places they are trying to escape.  :)
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@spiritualmatters · (edited)
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>quarantined there for 8 months.

Yes, and I'm reminded of Asian immigrants who also were detainees. 

Sadly, this has turned more into an op-ed photo shoot for people anti-POTUS....jmho.

I try to avoid the discussion; because this has gone on for years.

Here's my takeaway:

[Reply to original post](https://steemit.com/news/@simoxenham/the-pit-of-despair-experiment-trump-is-recreating#@spiritualmatters/re-simoxenham-the-pit-of-despair-experiment-trump-is-recreating-20180629t004600917z)

Prayers for all involved.

Peace.
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@sue-stevenson ·
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If Americans are so worried about the amount of people wanting to enter the US, this is what I'd love to see: the people educating themselves about the horrifying foreign policy the government has been enacting in their name for over 50 years.

If the people don't want so many Hondurans, for example, trying to gain entry, then perhaps take a look at the history of America shitting all over Honduras, taking its best farming land, tying up its economics and its resources in knots, etc, etc, etc, etc. Colonialism hasn't gone anywhere, it's just conducted offsite these days.

I really feel for Americans as I think the cold hard light of coming to realise that the US is *not* exceptional is a very hard thing to deal with, even when your country isn't on fire in a bunch of other different ways.

But I hope that extends out to Americans educating themselves about American foreign policy. The ongoing relentless determination by combined US/UK deep state forces to undermine and repress any country which wishes to be sovereign. They even did it to my country, Australia, in 1975 when the Whitlam Labor government was dismissed.

I can only hope that now this current border situation is in the light (which yes has been going on for decades - how bizarre is that?) that people will begin looking deeper into what is creating so many people seeking asylum. It's not just climate-related.

Sigh. Peace for all people, all around the world. It's a most radical revolutionary wish, I must say. And in the meantime my heart breaks for those kids.
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