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Will my cooler head prevail? A little sleep and looking at the news... Charlottesville you tangled mess, what a divisionary tactic you have become...
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Yesterday for whatever reason I happened to see mention of the Charlottesville Unite Rally.    I didn't personally have any interest other than one.   I am a history fan.    Watching ISIS bulldoze and destroy ancient religious structures because they do not fit within their religious beliefs angers me a great deal.     Likewise, the current social justice warrior movement is doing the same thing.     Was slavery bad?   Yes, and it still is, even when it is in a prison.  Did the north and south fight in a civil war in the U.S.?   Yes, and a lot of people died.   Was Robert E. Lee well respected before the war?  Yes.   Was Robert E. Lee well respected after the war?  Yes.    You see while slavery was a big part, but not the only factor by far that lead to that war, it was not why all people were fighting.

I realize that in modern times people really love to generalize.   They love to see one or a group of people that act a certain way and assume that everyone that is there must feel the same way.    This is called a generalization (*a stereotype is a form of this*) and it is a logical fallacy.    Yet, evidence and justification for so many things these days are based upon a generalization.

The Unite Rally was intended as a Peaceful Protest against removing the statue of Robert E. Lee.    Why shouldn't it be protested?   That is history.    It happened in the past.   The justification for the removal of that statue, the banning of specific flags, etc is because they are "*symbols for slavery*".     Yes, indeed they can be that.   That's called history.     We shouldn't be editing history to remove the things from the past that offend us.    They need there to be a reminder of that.   We should never be endorsing the white washing and removal of history.    We need to quit being babies and being offended by everything and trying to alter reality to fit our fantasy safe spaces.    History should be inviolate.    We should not let anyone edit our history good or bad, we should keep it present and learn from it.

Guess what?   There were a lot of people at that Unite Rally that were there for that reason.   They were not white supremacists, or even racists.    They even had at least two black men that were part of their movement (*I only saw two on the live streams, and videos I watched*).  I didn't see anyone attacking them because they were amidst a horde of racists.     Now the obvious attack and slander here would be to call those two I saw "*Uncle Toms*".    Ad hominem attacks are another critical thinking fallacy that is often used to virtue signal and try to focus on any negative that can be thought up to try to distract from actually thinking about the reasons, or why they may choose to be that way.    Call them a name, feel your ego pump up a little bit, pat yourself on the back, without realizing that you just acted like a fool.    Ad hominem attacks are never something to be proud of.   If you are in a crowd of people that don't know how to use reason and recognize such things they might cheer you on, but quantity of ignorant people does not suddenly make the people wise, or intelligent.

Anyway.   Yesterday I started watching live streams and usually I don't have the patience for such things, but what I witnessed unfolding in those streams was disturbing.    It kept my attention for over two hours.    Then I watched a few side videos here and there.    I only watched the daytime parts and actually haven't seen anything related to the later night rallies which from what I have read ended up being peaceful unlike the day rallies.

I watched as the Unite People marched into the park along the road.   There were barriers erected (fences) to indicate where people could go.   Richard Spencer and his ilk who are indeed white supremacists, and racist were in the vangard of the march, but they were actually a pretty small group all things considered.

The counter-protestors were primarily Anti-Racists, including churches and people standing on the steps of their churches, and a lot of Black Live Matter members.     Mixed in all over the place and in groups were Antifa the so-called Anti-Fascists.    I did note with interest that they more or less stopped being the Black Bloc.    I guess they finally wised up and realized that dressing in predominantly black with masks over their face made them easy to spot, and thus easy to target.     Instead I saw a lot of colors and actually very little black clothing.

I heard familiar chanting that I am used to hearing at rallies these days.    People don't really talk much they just gather into big groups and mindlessly chant over and over.    I will say there were some more creative chants at this rally it wasn't just the same repetition of two or three chants by everyone like I am used to seeing.

At some point Richard Spencer and his ilk did something I consider incredibly stupid.    They shouted their "*Hail Trump!*" nonsense that he has been getting a lot of coverage for.     It gives the opposition ammunition for their claims that they are Nazis.

The problem here is that they were a small group of people.   At a guess they may not have been even 10% of the total mass of the Unite Rally.     They were actually small enough that for awhile they actually supposedly got lost and trapped somewhere.   Yes, I heard on the streams reports of Richard Spencer being trapped for awhile.

Trapped by what?

Well, up to this point the protests were peaceful.   I even would later see an interview with a Unite Rally person that said they didn't bring weapons or things to defend themselves as they had discussed beforehand about it needing to be a peaceful rally.    Obviously not all of them got the memo as a small number of them had shields and clubs.    I don't recall seeing them actually use those other than to block grenade like implements, though it wouldn't surprise me to see or hear they had used them.

Even with that.    The protest was peaceful.   Just a lot of shouting.   That is what freedom of speech means.   The Nazis, and people with them who are not racist have the right to say what they want.   That doesn't mean you have to like it.    You have the exact same right to speak back and make it known you disagree.    Freedom of Speech is either free for all or it doesn't exist.

What is not legal is attacking someone for their speech.

So why did this thing turn violent?    It did indeed turn violent.

On the streams people started noticing antifa bringing in water coolers.   In these water coolers they had bottles, and balloons.

These bottles and balloons were not full of water.    They were full of piss, shit, paint, chemicals, and combinations of those things.

Antifa began hurling bottles and balloons full of piss, shit, paint, and chemicals at the Unite Rally members.     It was a little chaotic as people were talking about them throwing things, and then gradually they were explaining what was in it, as there was a lot of "What is that?" type of moments.

Realize.   This is when it turned violent.    It was initiated by Antifa and they were bombarding people with piss, shit, paint, and chemicals.   This is not legal.   Free speech is.

Sometime in these events is when a car that has since been said to have been driven by a guy from Ohio plowed into some Antifa people and then sped away.    There was one fatality there, and some injuries. 

This was a brief and horrifying event that took place in about 10 seconds.   It was wrong, I don't endorse it and the perpetrator should be dealt with appropriately.

Antifa did not stick to just piss, shit, paint, and chemicals though they didn't really let up with that.

They did escalate it further and were macing, people and eventually chucking tear gas into the Unite Rally people.    I saw a couple of times a Unite person grab it quickly enough to throw it back, but that only happened a couple of times.

Aside from the car incident this violence was on Antifa.    Even the car event may have been spurred by this.    Did someone snap after being hit with piss, shit, paint, chemicals, or perhaps the hints I'd heard of tasers?   That doesn't justify their actions, but people have limits.    They snap.    This is especially true in volatile situations with a lot of people.

In fact, based upon what I saw I am very surprised more people were not killed or hurt.    I will say that in the face of what was being done to them the Unite Rally people were mostly keeping their cool.   If you can find unedited footage from the event that spans hour+ in length and is not pausing and restarting I highly recommend watching it.  It will show you a VERY different story from what the mainstream media is reporting.

So where were the police?    Good question, incredibly good question.     They were actually standing pretty far away behind some of the barriers and about the only time they would speak up was to tell people they couldn't come past the barriers.

Word had come down that they were told by the mayor of Charlottesville to "*Stand down*".

Eventually they would start speaking over a loud speaker saying that it had been declared an "*Unlawful assembly*".   People were directed to leave or they would be arrested.   It was strange that the police seemed only concerned about making the Unite Rally people leave and didn't seem to be giving any attention to also dispersing the counter-protestors.

There were people that shouted back it was not unlawful as they had a permit.

So some people tried to comply by going over the barriers to walk away only to be told they could not go that way.    They asked where they were supposed to go and were told to "*go back the way you came*" which is through the Antifa who were hurling the tear gas, macing people, and hitting them with piss, shit, and more.     They tried to not have to go that way, but eventually they would.

They seemed to mostly be allowed to go through these people and for a moment it returned to just shouting.    At one point the counter-protestors started chanting "*Shame, Shame, Shame*" like the atonement walk scene in Game of Thrones for Cersei Lannister from season 6.    I actually found that amusing.   I noticed some of the Unite Rally people even shook their heads and chuckled at that one.

Then word came down that yes, they DID have a permit.   It simply wasn't valid for another 30 minutes.    So 30 minutes later they were allowed to be there.     This seems rather petty and it seems like there was intentional conduct to try to incite a riot.    A riot did not happen.   Consider that.   Consider what Antifa was being permitted to do, and the fact that a riot didn't happen.

It was about that time I stopped watching and went about my day.

Then I saw the news.    Then I got incredibly angry.    There was no mention of Antifa other than the car crash moment.   That was great "*If it bleeds it leads*" narrative that supported the obvious agenda they were hoping for.    They didn't get their riot, so that was the best they could come up with.

Antifa and their grenades, the fact they instigated the violence and perpetrated it for a LONG TIME was not mentioned.   Today when I have calmed down some I looked at some articles.

I'd like to share a few clips with you from a <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/violence-in-charlottesville-exposes-nations-divisions/2017/08/13/4ad7d97e-8044-11e7-9e7a-20fa8d7a0db6_story.html?utm_term=.67c29a8cfbcf">Washington Post Article</a>.

**Washington Post**
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Okay, so from that we can see that one woman was killed by the nut job from Ohio and the car.    The other two fatalities appear to be related to a police helicopter crashing and it may not even be related.    Perhaps it is.   It is all speculation at this point.

At this point considering what I told you above there is ONE fatality that can be attributed to this event.    The others are speculative at this point.     That's actually pretty impressive that only one person died considering what was going on.    Those Unite Rally people are truly violent (*sarcasm*).

**Washington Post**
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This is an extreme generalization with an obvious agenda.    This does not describe what I witnessed.    Yes, there were such people, but they didn't seem to be a majority.    Other than Richard Spencer and his "*Hail Trump*" idiocy they didn't actually seem to be doing or saying much in terms of hate.    There are always going to be exceptions.    Yet, I didn't see much of that.

So the description by the Washington Post here is disingenuous and clearly designed to paint a narrative they desire.

**Washington Post**
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First, from what I have been able to learn the night event with the torches which was well after I stopped watching was not as violent and less happened.    It seems like WAPO is spinning here and mixing time spans and trying to again paint a picture that is false.   I think this is often called fake news.

Furthermore, the Unite Rally people DID not hurl bottles and such other than the few cases they threw one back that they happened to get that was thrown at them.    It was Antifa that brought these materials in their water coolers.

<h1>What's going on?</h1>

I find it incredibly menacing and telling that Antifa's actions are brushed under the rugs on this.    They were clear targets for arrest when they began.    Not only was there a stand down order, there is almost no mention of their actions.

I've heard people using this as leverage to justify banning certain types of speech.    I've heard people use it to attack and blame Trump.     I've heard a lot of speculation, and I've witnessed a lot of political opportunism.

What I haven't seen that much of is the truth, or at least the facts.

I've seen the mainstream media busting the entire story up like it is built out of lego blocks and taking just the blocks they want and weaving them into a new construction that looks nothing like the original.

This is what is called fake news.    In the past when Hitler and his people did it we simply called it Propaganda.

So let's see.    We have crowds calling everyone in a crowd Nazis, when there were actually a minority of that type.  Yet we have counter-protestors being allowed to shut down free speech which is what Hitler, Brown Shirts, and Mussolini who were actual FASCISTS did.    I'm thinking of a little bit of **Saul Alinksy's** "*Rules for Radicals*" here which is to blame the opposition for that which you do.    Antifa is not Anti-Fascists except in the backwards land on the other side of the mirror.

I've brought this up and people asked me "*Did they shout them down, or distance themselves?*" to which I countered "*Did people distance themselves from Antifa when they started attacking people?*"

The fact there was a stand down order, and antifa was allowed to operate with no consequences is very informative.    This had ALL the factors needed to be a powder keg.    It should have been way worse than it was.

The only thing I can see that may have stopped that is that a lot of the Unite people met beforehand and left their weapons and other things behind and stressed they wanted this to be a peaceful protest.

Considering what actually happened there I am very surprised it didn't get worse.    I suspect those with the agenda are too so the only thing they have to latch onto is the ONE nut job and his car, and rearranging things and acting like antifa was not there and that violence was initiated on both sides.   It wasn't.    Antifa brought that.     So ask yourself why the news chooses not to talk about them...

I went looking for some streams.   This is so swamped that all I can really find at this moment is on the Alex Jones channel.   It is on Facebook video so might end up getting censored.   Millie Weaver was there.

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*This man that is one of the Unite the Right Rally members must be a White Supremacist Racist right?*

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*The same must be true of that guy with the sign there too who is talking about being a veteran and he is part of the Unite the Right Rally*.    One would think such people would not be welcome into a Nazi movement.  (*sarcasm*)

Those images I just went and found in <a href="https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderEmerickJones/videos/10155693273078459/">this Hour and a Half Long video without PAUSES</a>.   It is on facebook, so it may not stay there for long.

There are <a href="https://www.infowars.com/watch-live-alt-right-alt-left-clash-in-charlottesville/">more videos from her</a> along with this one.    It is hard to take an hour and a half video out of context.    Perhaps you still could, but I think it does a good job of showing just how much of a sham the mainstream narrative is.

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@amri · (edited)
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Sometimes in many countries, many are oppressed minorities by depraved rulers.
They do not think of anything to fill their stomachs, the oppressed people who do not care, whether such leaders the world wants, hopefully not.
Nice this post @dwinblood
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@daudimitch ·
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We still have a long road ahead...it would be a beautiful day when mankind live in love, peace and unity...the media has to be more responsible and I feel we are at a tipping edge with regard to policies, Trump has his work cut-out, the media won't help him and there are those that would use this as fuel against him...He needs soft side, you can literally feel the tension with some of the policies he has taken up...I totally agree with you, We should never try to bury that part of history, it is important, its a lesson I hope we all can learn from...Racism is here to stay,  _some folks can't help it_.
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@sabrin514 ·
The real issue is that you have the so-called leaders of one race blaming white people for all the ills in their life, demonizing everything white while expecting whites to happily bend over and take it, and demanding not just equal treatment, but BETTER than equal treatment through so-called "social justice" programs like Affirmative Action that serve to perpetuate discrimination against white people. If everyone just lived their own lives, minded their own business, and earned the things they wanted based on hard work and merit, this wouldn't be an issue. But the democrats, who have been on the wrong side of the slavery issue since the very beginning, want to retain control of the black population by lying to them and telling them they are helpless victims that need liberal programs to succeed. Frankly it's disgusting. No wonder democrats are trying so hard to dismantle this country's history before our very eyes! They have truly morphed into a bunch of marxists and communists.
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@diabolika · (edited)
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>We need to quit being babies and being offended by everything and trying to alter reality to fit our fantasy safe spaces. 

Each of these tiny specks need some attention in the universe sadly, and want to prove their significance. Each grew up in a different environment/society that shaped the way they think and behave. See why the late _Jacque Fresco_ said that "All Cultures are Corrupt". When all these groups come together, they will talk to each other based on the kind of environment and education that shaped them, defending all their fragile little egos.

Maybe we should just realize that we are nothing, nothing special. Someday we will become equal as dirt and ashes of the earth. And we will only be remembered up to a certain point (depends on what we did here on earth, and the value of our contributions).

Now, we'll just shake our heads in disbelief. The aliens above must be frowning at us, ready to shoot the massive ball of gas to end the human race madness. People should go travel, it's fun! Go outside, talk to other people, there are other legitimate worries out there geez. If people run out of inspiration, check out my travels, lol! You don't need a lot of money for this. It opens our minds and gives us fresh perspective of the world.
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@dksart ·
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This is just humans being humans, there is nothing new here that has not happened in the past.  Humans with different opinions and beliefs choosing to resolve their differences with violence instead of peaceful communication.  Things like these have been going on for thousand of years as long as humans have populated the earth.  The only difference now is we have almost instant live access to every major event that happens on earth.  Of course not all humans behave this way but all it takes is a few to start a riot...

As far as the US civil war there is only one reason and one reason only it happened, it was over greed and money.  The southern states economy was almost 100% dependent on the free labor provided by slaves.  Without the free labor the economy of the south would basically collapse, the slave owners were not willing to give up the profits their slaves were earning them.
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@dwinblood ·
The problem I have and the reason I wrote this post was due to the misrepresentation of the facts in the media.

We currently have a rally going on here in Denver where they are treating Antifa like they were the victims.

Oh and they are talking about how 2 cops were killed by the car when if you watch the video there were no cops near that car.

The 2 cops that keep getting referred to were flying around in a helicopter that crashed, so unless that car did some amazing jump, sailed through the air and hit the helicopter which it did not the too events are unrelated.

In fact I haven't seen any indications the helicopter crash is related other than it had been being used to observe the rally.
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@gwiss · (edited)
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This is why half of the country has no faith in the media anymore.  It exists to confirm a perception, not to inform.  It has become politicized, which always happens as the State gains power.  The media exists to parrot the perceptions of those in political power and it shames and silences those who are not in power.

This treatment is nothing new.  It's been going on all through our last election.  People would show up at trump rallies, attack Trump supporters, and then the media would run stories about how violent Trump supporters were.  They wouldn't even bother to report that the people getting arrested were counter protesting anti-Trump people!

And don't even get me started on Black Lives Matter.  Their rhetoric lead directly to several police officers getting shot in Dallas, which makes them a terrorist organization as far as I'm concerned.  And yet -- not a peep from the media.  In fact -- they used the attack to talk about gun control!

It is ironic to me that the people yelling the loudest about being oppressed are simultaneously the people with the most political power, but that's what is going on.  The demographic that has to keep quiet and take it are white males, because the minute they try to defend themselves they are called white supremacists.

Now, that doesn't mean that white males have it bad -- and to some extent they have earned what is coming to them.  But we will never reach a peaceful colorblind gender blind society by trying to use the power of government to bash each other over the head until we are all the same height.

That just ends in Harrison Bergeron.

Winning hearts and minds cannot be done at swordpoint.  So you either choose the long game, the nutritious slow cooked food of ending racism one heart at a time, or you choose the short game, the empty calorie donut of using rules to repress each other's bias.

Long game ends in everyone mating to a light brown and society becoming more tolerant.  Short game starts with repression and ends in national socialism with communists and fascists battling it out in street fights, a fight that the communists will always lose in America.

Episodes like this make me fear for the future.
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@dwinblood ·
Well said, perhaps worthy of a post of its own.
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@sabrin514 ·
Excellent points. I completely agree with you. You have my upvote for the paltry $0.01 it's worth :)
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@raghwendra · (edited)
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I get things about Charlottesville thanks for sharing with us these great articles:))
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@sabrin514 ·
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I agree with you. BLM and Antifa were the ones that incited the incident. They were using mace, throwing rocks, blocking streets, and swarming cars. They had no legitimate reason to be there except to stir up trouble and they got it too.

The original protesters were protesting peacefully and had a legal permit to do so. People have a right to defend themselves from being attacked by a mob. I'm not sure how much longer domestic terrorist groups like BLM and Antifa thought people were going to put up with their crap. They have been rioting, looting, blocking roads, assaulting people, and burning things down for a while. Looks like the chickens are coming home to roost. 

You can't expect to constantly antagonize and wrongfully villify the entire white race which is the majority in the US and expect them to tolerate it forever. Tolerance should not mean allowing people to stomp your face and treat you as a doormat while making excuses for the ones stomping you. Times are changing.
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@theblindsquirl ·
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Only the "facts" that follow the official narrative will be shown.

The Powers That Be are, after all, working towards a specific goal here.

What will be interesting to watch is the effect it has. At some point, enough people may begin to discount virtually everything the MSM says.

Lots of people like to talk about getting rid of the corrupt system we have. I don't see anyone putting forward what the replacement is going to be. 

Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.
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@dwinblood ·
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Indeed.    I mostly felt obligated to write these posts to document what I witnessed before the MSM narrative started spinning it.   I believe getting that information stored on the blockchain has some value.
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@theblindsquirl ·
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I respect your principles, it's a shame they're so rare any more.
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@ugetfunded ·
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# @dwinblood, Is too much info one big cause of this increasing trend of generalization?
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@dwinblood ·
It definitely could be.    A bit of an information overload and most people don't know how to deal with it.    Though I think there is an element of intentionally dumbing down the population when it comes to critical thinking as then they are more susceptible to propaganda tactics and can be steered as if by sheep dogs wherever they want them to go.
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@wakeupnd ·
Granted someone died in this attack and it was horrific but wasn't the bike lock attack horrific too? The media and politicians are all over this and condemning the attack. While the exact opposite happened for the bike lock attack and the attacker was only brought to justice through an investigation by individuals on the internet.

I just want to point that out. Both very bad incidences but noticed the difference in reactions.
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@dwinblood ·
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Not only that I was thinking.   Couldn't piss and shit being bombarded on people be considered assault with a deadly weapon considering that we have numerous blood born illnesses/diseases that can be passed by such materials as long as it makes it into an eye duct, mouth, open wound, etc.
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@wakeupnd ·
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Ah, yes I totally forgot about all the shit the counter protesters were doing at this rally. Probably because the media is only showing this one example of violence when there were dozens.
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