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RE: Hive Keychain @ AppWorks#25 by e43

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· @e43 ·
It actually isn't good news.

It shows that Hive devs are getting poached by external forces and that the Hive development as a whole will be fragmented. Just ask @therealwolf. A talented individual that left his own project to be a SplinterLands employee. Why... ? Structure, sustainability, delivery and stable rewards among some of the reasons I imagine.

No wonder @blocktrades did what he did with HF26. He needs new devs to come in and fill the void.

It will at least be positive for Keychain since they are now part of a high level/high demand networked team that is actually pushing with much gusto in the Web3 development space. Maybe keychain will make their app mobile offerings resemble an app from this decade and not look like a borrowed template from days of myspace.

It's evident that Hive has a very long way to go to exist as more than just a pet project of a select group of reclusive devs that ran off when a money man came in and secured the steem chain for the Koreans.

So steem stayed Korean (kicked out white devils) but now Hive is in a nutshell... LATIN AMERICAN.

Will the coming year be a year of gentrification (an attempt by some devs to kill rewards for blogging) or do coders need to have n their CV: Languages ENG/ESP.

> ¡Si Señor!

One thing about Latinos.. they move as an organism. The influx of more ESP content is because of that influential and opportunity-sharing behavior.

If Hive stops rewarding ESP content, it will likely lose the entire input from Latinos... and their input is for the most part, the bulk of Hive content (outside of SplinterLands.)

So if devs want a 'new image to market' then they better start actually making the offerings of Hive be attractive to a wider cohort of users.

Them quotes from @keychain show that outside of the HIVE bubble, there's not much really here that is impressive to outsiders.

So "getting more to join" is the curse. Because community thinks that's all it takes, but devs don't want to have it until they've finished their vision... however many years that will take.
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@stoodkev ·
First no one's getting poached, we're merely interacting with the rest of the ecosystem. If anything, I've got some other founders to consider building on Hive actually.

Second, you can be caustic if you want, I know lot of things still need to be improved but I'm proud of what we have achieved with limited resources, and we will keep working on making it better.

If we are to achieve mass adoption, we'll need to be able to become a multilingual platform. For blogging in particular, I guess there could be some options to filter posts based on languages, it's a question for frontends.  

Some of those quotes do little more than acknowledge our presence, but given Hive current ranking I guess that's a start. I agree that more should be done to appeal to the masses, but I do think that eventually what will bring adoption is not only promoting Hive itself, but having killer dApps in here.
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@e43 ·
Considering aye... 
Damn that's sold me I'm all in.

Jokes aside though I respect your input because you do see things realistically.

That was my point too if you didn't know.. that years of people saying "Hive is the best it's just flying under the radar" got to be somewhat of a cringe since crypto enthusiasts in a nutshell do specifically look for things yet to go boom!

But boom is not come Señor.

Like you say there's the building yet to actually take place.. at scale.. where diamonds in the rough rise in similar fashion to how SplinterLands so did.

What is evident around here is that Hive Power Elite (HPE) are skinny on ideas or the commitment and resources that they require in order to deliver end product.

Case in point: Ragnarok
Seeded by the mind of @theycallmedan but then became what he himself labels as ZOMBIE PROJECTS OF HIVE.

It's funny that when Hive was born it mocked Blurt as the black sheep and celebrated Hive as THE REAL COMMUNITY that the chain lives on through...

OK,

Cute.. I cried a little.


But NOW?

It's a bit of a bitter sweet thing.
THAT COMMUNITY is predominately poor countries and HPE would rather they BLURT OFF! And so killing REWARDS FOR BLOGGERS might be the equivalent of KILLING THE BUFFALO for the... Eradication of the natives..

Not cute,
Lots of crying by many.

But OK,

Unspoken vision: Make Hive attract mainstream users... or not so many poor pricks who only take and have little to give (spoils for HPE) ..

And so the ONLY QUESTION that now matters is:

What's BUILDING on HIVE that WILL do THAT?

Ragna(sinking)rok?
Speak(issues)Tv?
SPK(dluxplaything)network?
Leo(whynumbernotup)finance?
Podping(lightingnodeintelaviv)London?

So maybe you get my point?

That yeah there's things here building... but nothing that's going to break out.

Hive stagnation evident.

Else finding a chain with potential.. sitting at half a buck.. in a bear market.. when even a whisper of "web3" gives everyone a hard on..

Would be impossible to fly under any radar.
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