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It's true that almost everything is centralised at its core. Hopefully we won't be seeing any Hive frontend going rougue anytime soon and in the future. 
*Just thinking about that gives me the chills.*

*I think Decentralization is the angel we don't know yet and Centralization -the devil we've always know.*

Even crypto that we've been preaching to be decentralized is just an agreement/connection between two individual financially. 


 

A BOOM.
In fact , its worth 2. 

So I'll boom one of your  repplies.

My head hurts after reading this.
My greatest disappointment after learning about cryptocurrency is how centralized it is, but lacking the regulation and oversight of centralized traditional finance, so theft and abuse are common. We are in our infancy. It’s the wild Wild West with shoot outs on main street daily and plenty of collateral damage.
 https://images.hive.blog/DQmevkwPDJFHxjeRzmrDryvsueFV5Btke3Ea5L99CQuL6dE/B06D0BD7-B62B-4D37-9C64-876F73C0C155.jpeg 

You are right, if an insider becomes the bad guy. The terror it will bring on will be unimaginable. 

Thank you for the eye opener

>"...our brains are simply not wired for decentralization."

Provably false.  Prior to the advent of agriculture, for hundreds of millennia, humanity had to create themselves the goods and services they required by hand, availed only Stone Age tech.  Not until collective industry enabled surpluses to be parasitized and used to support armed gangs of thugs to conquer and control society, just a few millennia ago, was centralization even potential.  The vast majority of time humanity has existed, no less than 300k years, has been completely decentralized, and that is the state we evolved in.  

As technology advance through the crude states of brute force collective industry, productivity increased, and overlords have parasitized an ever increasing share of our production, and to do this we have been increasingly indoctrinated and subjected to propaganda, that has taught us to relinquish our production to our benevolent overlords.  But today decentralization is the cutting edge of tech advance in every field of industry, and our overlords, if we care to examine the evidence, aren't benevolent at all, but malignant, and striving to keep us working in their corrals where our production can be parasitized, instead of adopting the nascent decentralized means of production that eliminate parasitic losses, create no taxable events.  The massive overhead necessary to centralization means that independent means avail orders of magnitude more value of their production to the producers, eliminating obligate parasites, overlords that produce no goods, and all of whose services are no longer necessary but detrimental to their hapless thralls.

Only insofar as I earn wages of money do I create taxable events.  When I exchange my services for goodwill, no taxable event occurs, and all of my production inures to me and my community.  All the good work I do creates proportional will to benefit me in those I benefit.

>"Tech is creating so much abundance that we can now afford to be extremely inefficient and wasteful in the name of decentralization."

LOL  It is decentralization that has increased productivity and created that abundance, despite overlords trying to scale that tech up to forcibly collectivize our labor so that it can be parasitized.  When the first windmills were created millennia ago, the crude tech was only able to be built and used by collective labor in massive, highly capital intensive manufacturing industries, as were the flour mills of Rome.  But a century ago windmills on farms were used to pump water, for that farmer, made by that farmer for their exlusive use, because of technological advance that enabled decentralization.  But those farmers didn't need to buy water pumps and generated no taxable events by pumping their own water for their own use.

Now we see massive windmill farms in CA, terribly inefficient, requiring massive capital expenditures, solely so they can be parasitized by overlords.  But I can build a windmill out of an automotive rear end from a scrap yard, a few planks, and an alternator from the same scrap yard, inexpensively and easily with the available technology today, and create power no overlord can parasitize, and pay no tax on this good I myself consume.  It eliminates not only massive capital outlays and debt financing, but the massively inefficient grid.  It's hugely more efficient for me to have my own power source driven by free wind than it is to participate in the collective grid.

In every field of industry today, this same metric in the fact.  I can pay $25 a pound for good beef at the market, or let a steer graze my pasture for free.  I can pay $2 for a head of lettuce, or fill a gutter with rockwool and bubble up the wastewater from a barrel of catfish to produce my produce for free.  What has limited adoption is the necessity of knowing how to raise cattle, or grow produce.  But today we have decentralized knowledge.  AI.  Not corporate, kneecapped AI, but FLOSS AI you can download off github right now.  That can automate these technologies for me.  Like a plantation owner whose fortune increased the more slaves they could put to work, the more automated means of production I own myself, the more actual wealth I create.

Money isn't wealth.  It's a veil that conceals wealth.  Independent means of providing the goods and services that create the blessings of civilization are the best definition of wealth.  Money is becoming ever more worthless.  Every form of it decreases in value relative to the goods and services we can exchange it for, and this predicts that just producing those goods and services themselves is far more rewarding than earning taxable wages to buy them from overlords that take a profitable cut.

We transcend a clinal boundary today that returns humanity to the largely egalitarian meritocracy we evolved in, showing that centralization has been a temporary phase humanity has endured these past few millennia necessary for technology to advance from the Stone Age to the Space Age, and the laws of physics now mandate vastly more efficient decentralized production replace the hopelessly burdened with overhead centralization that has made malignant overlords necessary during that transition.  That transition is now complete, we but roll out the new infrastructure to replace the old, and as we do we replace the wealth and power of overlords with the wealth and power we retain ourselves.

Decentralization is orders of magnitude more efficient and profitable than centralization because it eliminates parasitic losses, and because those parasitic losses are necessary to obligate parasites, it simultaneously creates freedom from overlords.

That is the most profitable product of all.

>"Scaling is hard and all roads lead to centralization."

This is not observed on Hive.  @blocktrades just <a href="https://peakd.com/hive-139531/@blocktrades/a-new-api-for-hive#@blocktrades/rzsznk">posted</a> how by modularizing Hivemind so that independent devs could create their own schema, great increase in the robustness of the platform results, and similarly dramatically reduces the cost of running a node, so much that one node could serve all of Hive using HAF today.  It is increasing decentralization that increases the productivity of nodes, and also begins to suggest that with sufficiently mature applications ordinary users could run their own nodes, just like they run their own surveillance devices...er, phones, today.  Centralized X, nee Twatter, is now having it's users submit their ID with a selfie, centralizing the biometric data of each of it's blue checkmarked users.  Hive could well enable users to simply hook their own node to the network and remain as anonymous as they like.

@blocktrades confirmed that this decentralization dramatically increased the scalability of Hive, when I raised the subject of the massive influx of users to Meta's Threads, of ~100M users in a week.  With the far greater capacity of the decentralized HAF nodes, the massive increase in server expenses such influx would cause bad 'ol Hived would be dramatically reduced by decentralizing that load across far more capable modularized nodes.

It is centralization that is inefficient, wasteful, and illiberating to those subject to it.  Decentralization is producers losing 0% of their production to parasitism, and consuming themselves 100% of their production without parasitic losses in the supply chain.  Whether we're talking about chickens, electricity, or Hive nodes, communities comprised of independent producers trading amongst peers are vastly more efficient and profitable than walled gardens that must filter everything in and out, taking a cut at both ends.

All of this reveals that it is the community of Hive that profits or loses, not the tokens.  It is our social interactions that are the real value of Hive, and why curation rewards and schemes to add advertising are detriments, not benefits to our community, regardless of how that affects tokens.  The SCOTUS has ruled that money is speech.  Is it?  Only to overlords, whose few whimpers cannot overwhelm the booming collective voice of free people any other way.  Free people are vastly more blessed than chattel, regardless of their financial assets.  Decentralization is freedom, and demonstrably outcompetes centralization in every field today, because freedom is more profitable than slavery.

Thanks!

The main worry I have is centralization of the internet to the point where data packets can be hashed to a global ID for internet access. As it is now, that would require a lot of restructuring and the breaking of code, but not impossible. Just impractical, except for the fact that those at the top with nearly unlimited resources want it to extend their hold from the IoT to the internet of bodies. If the last 3 years have proved anything, it's that they don't mind breaking things in order to get what they want.