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Post Promotions: Do's and Don'ts
We've experienced great interest in Steemit in last months. An enormous amount of new sign ups, and Steemians getting active again.

## <center>This is absolutely Great for the Community!</center><br>

**BUT** unfortunately it also brought some very aggressive promotion tactics to our community!

## <center>Please Stop Posting URLs in Private Chat!</center><br>

<center>![](http://static.rekruteo.pl/00/00/00/00/35.jpg)</center><br>

**Recently I get multiple URLs posted into my private chat channels, each day. It is getting annoying!**

I actually thought this only happens to Whales and Dolphins. I'm just a tiny minnow, with a ok reputation and a somewhat interesting amount of followers, but still my Steem Power is not that big, really.

***To whom it may concern:*** I'll not respond to any of those URL posts at Steemit.Chat or Discord! I will not and do not open your posted link(s) at all. I may even remember your username and will not look at your future posts as well, even when they are of good quality.

<center>![](http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2682776/images/o-RESPECT-facebook.jpg)</center><br>

## <center>Have Respect for your Fellow Steemians</center><br>

I know, it is hard to get noticed when being new at Steemit. We've all been through this phase. I'm on Steemit for more than 5 months, and still putting in hard work to get noticed, to increase my follow base, to get votes in.

But, I do RESPECT my fellow community members. I will not approach them directly in a private message asking to upvote and follow. This is just too aggressive! Instead I use the appropriate methods.

<center>![3](https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/01/19/97/71/240_F_119977157_IyhBdygWnp30FWRkKGldoOQ4t8YFo4Sw.jpg)</center>

## <center>Post Promotions</center><br>
Use the topic channels on Steem.Chat and Discord Servers (SteemTrail and others). Take the time to read other promoted posts in these channels and give them up-votes and comments if you like the post.

<br>

<center>![](https://www.seoclerk.com/pics/want36725-1gq6eA1457250423.jpg)</center><br>

## <center>Engage</center><br>
Read and digest posts, and create relevant and quality comments. Seek the interaction with the author of the post and/or the authors of comments.

I'll assure you, this will give a much better result.

And remember, it takes time to go from 0-60 or 0-100. Nobody here at Steemit was able to do this in record times. Dedication brings you further. Being too aggressive will bring you nowhere! Any marketeer knows that, hence you do not experience successful direct marketing in the real world. Any marketeer knows it is about engagement, about the interaction. Reasons why this is the marketing style adopted in the world.<br>


# <center>Have Respect! Then You Get Respect in Return!</center>

<center>![](https://coachjackito.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/respect1.jpg)</center><br>

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# HAPPY STEEMING

follow me [@edje](https://steemit.com/@edje)
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@avikal ·
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nice post. helped newbies like me a lot. thanks
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@edje ·
Super, and please consider the advises given.
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@avikal ·
thanks a lot. i surely will :)
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@edje · (edited)
I wanted to set the post payout to ZERO. Sorry, it went in like this. I'm perfectly fine for NO votes to this posts! Please just take the message from the post and act to it. That would make my life and those of others here at Steemit so much more pleasurable.
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@edje ·
How Annoying, I just got this private message on Steemit.Chat. He probably did not read this post. @halmon READ this post and STOP your TOO aggressive promotion tactics!

https://s15.postimg.org/kzjnmin23/Screen_Shot_2017-06-17_at_19.50.56.png
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@eroche ·
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Well said @edje I have noticed this too and it does not come across well.
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@edje ·
Indeed! Hope this post and other on the same topic will create a better culture again.
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@jpinka ·
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Hopefully people will get the hang of things. They will end up creating more rules for people.
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@edje ·
Likely indeed!
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@katdvine ·
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Good post. I think over the last two weeks there has been an influx of newbies who seem to be spending their time hustling for follows and upvotes for zero  input. I just ignore them.

 I do welcome newbies who bother to introduce themselves and post good content.
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@edje ·
> I think over the last two weeks there has been an influx of newbies who seem to be spending their time hustling for follows and upvotes for zero input.

Indeed, I saw somewhere to ID counter at more than 200k and I think it jumped from 150k/160k a months or so ago, maybe 2 months ago. Issue is that there is not a Wiki or something in Steemit with all the information on what is out there, including the guilds, including Steemit.Chat including all the Discord servers with people to help promoting posts and votes. All need to be discovered through posts, and some of these are very good and informative, others not so got and may even give some not so good info. Takes a LOT of time to go through that, and I understand not so many users do actually take that time. I just hope we can make this better in the future, better UI, a library of information within Steemit UI, not outside as it is now, and quite fragmented.

> I do welcome newbies who bother to introduce themselves and post good content.

And I do as well. When respecting the community, then I'm there to help them.
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@leoplaw ·
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Sharing this with a new Steemain who had questions. =)
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@edje ·
Super!
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@mindme ·
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I don't think it's aggressive, but more invasive, desperate. Very nice post, finally someone saying it out loud! Lately I've also been getting lots and lots of these stupid private messages *"Please upvote me!"*, *"Follow and I'll follow back"*, **LIKE I CARE**! That's pretty much the reaction I get...

**Upvoted and Resteemed!**
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@edje ·
$0.34
It must be said out loud indeed. Some others did already, but I think mostly higher SP holder. Anyway, hopefully the users who are that aggressive will stop. Not sure if it is desperate, some of the new users do actually get some rewards already and start their tactics after 1 or 2 days on the platform, submitted maybe a couple of posts. Invasive it certainly is for use who receiving those requests all the time.

Thanks for the support!
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@mindme ·
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I usually just hide all those that send me these sort of messages, don't want to see them again. It's just sad that many of them don't even realize it.

You very welcome!
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@olivera-despina · (edited)
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Unfortunately, my work and my book in process don't leave me the time to promote my work, however, I may confirm quality posts and interesting personal experience pay off after some time. 
It's also important not to let the readers forget you - i.e. write at least weekly. Unfortunately, I still fail at this.
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@edje · (edited)
Maybe you can write about your progress with your book? Something that should be able to flow straight from your mind through your fingers on the keyboard into a post. Your thoughts you are having writing your book, maybe very interesting read for nobody who likes to understand the mind of a writer. Promotions of the post, when having some experience with Steemit.chat and Discord, is maybe 10 minutes posting into the appropriate channels, and then commenting to the incoming comments, when possible (near) realtime ie respond (almost) directly to comments, this may take 30-60 minutes time (that is the minimum I would recommend).

Success with your book! What is it about?
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@pakyeechan ·
$2.69
Agree, everyone wants upvoting including me (especially after this powerful HF19 has been launched). However, I assumed everyone wants steemit to be a even better community, this relies on our "repsect". Please respect every author's valuable contributions, without this, steemit is nothing.
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@edje ·
Respect is key to any community! Thank you for reading and your comment.
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@pocketechange ·
$0.08
Very informative for new steemers like me...
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@edje ·
Super, glad to be of help.
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@rgeddes · (edited)
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I think you should note that there are no official **rules** on Steemit..  On the platform stake holders can flag  posts/comments - unfortunately that doesnt extend to private messages or chat..
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@edje ·
Correct, there are no rules on Steemit other than those implemented by Technology. But I can tell you, NO community works when not respecting each other. I just hope this is getting clear to those who are just here for their own personal (money) gain.
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@rgeddes ·
$0.17
I think there is a big difference between shameless promotion and promotion to raise money for (whatever).. I have no problem with people shamelessly promoting quality content..  Onboard more users - get more scammers - the problem is this site is filled with people who are willing to direct blockchain reward to what looks sketchy - just in case it isnt.  Steemit should reward quality content -unfortunately we cant control the way people vote.  Glad you brought this up - its a frustrating problem that I think will diminish with scale (unless we attract more people willing to feed the bears).
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@scaredycatguide ·
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You know it is a problem when you see a post almost nearly every day lately talking about this.  I have considered writing one myself.  I go on steemit.chat half as much as I used to as I get blown up on private chat by now.  The irony is no one would even talk to me 6 months ago...lol.
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@edje ·
$1.51
Hard work pays of! And I agree, less post on topics like this would be fantastic! But for some reason they are required. I started to post my post as a comment to those who send me links in private chat. Sometimes they come back to one of my posts and I help them further in understanding what RESPECT is and how to go about at Steemit. Those who do not, well, I ignore them.

Feel free to write a post yourself :)

Thanks for stopping by and your comment.
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@stackin ·
$0.12
Great post on what to do and not to do on steemit 💯💯
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@edje ·
Thank you! Just hope those who abuse read it and follow through :)
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@steemcenterwiki ·
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Thanks for the advice! A link to your post was included in the Steem.center wiki page about [Steemit Chat](https://www.steem.center/index.php?title=Steemit_Chat). Thanks and good luck again!
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@edje ·
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Thank your for the link in Steemit.Center. Glad I could be of help.
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@thatmemeguy ·
But then How can I use those  postpromotion channels? 

All I see in there are links.
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@edje ·
Put your link in, click some links of others, read and when you like vote for it and place a good comment. just look at "promotion" folder how users do it.
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@troilo ·
$0.12
You're right! It's a bit annoying, but sometimes people send you quite nice content you wouldn't have found. But it's a big minority, I agree. Nice post by the way.
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@edje ·
Thank you! it is not so much about good or bad posts, but when getting quite a few of these requests in, it is getting annoying. There are so many ways of promoting, and best is to write comment, relevant to the post, add value with that. You can find recent posts with the same topic you wrote about, and comment on those posts and give your link (as a clickable word, like "maybe you are interested in the posts I wrote about this topic here), and make the word here clickable with the link to your post. Copying URL into the comment may not be appreciated by some of the authors as well, I know for sure some of the Whales hate that, so always respect others, dont advertise, but add value and when a post of yours is relevant to your comment, you may mention it. To more value you add, the more you will get noticed. Also take the time to post your articles in the post promotion channels at Steemit.Chat and Discord AND also read other posts that are promoted in those channels, when you like it, comment on it and upvote it and mentioned that in the specific channel mentioned the authors name in the comment so he/she gets a notification. Avoid mentioned anything like, also please upvote my post. That is to much begging and I know quite a few Steemians who will not do it because of that.

Success with finding your ways here on Steemit. And thank you for your comments and upvote.
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@troilo · (edited)
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/154/912/berneydidnotread.gif?1318992465

Joking, I will take your advices, you have the right words. ;)
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@troilo ·
Sorry for the spam, but how do you make a word clickable? Thank you!
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@unclehermit ·
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I think its like most new platforms. Lots of people trying to make a fast buck for as little effort as possible. Internet ads and popups, email, search engines and various social media have all had similar filtering problems. It will take some time for both the community and the platform to improve filtering so that we see more quality contact than guff appearing.
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@edje ·
Post discovery and staying visible with your posts is indeed a MAJOR issue at Steemit. For some reason Steemit INC is not addressing that; I have no clue why. That is one of the issues I have with them. I think they are a bunch of techies without any idea how to support the majority of the Steemians, namely those with low Steem Power. But they may have their good reasons not to invest in good post discovery and promotion tools, I just dont know. Lets see what the next couple of months will bring.
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@yakuhi ·
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I'm learning these things as i go along, its a pretty tough crowd out there, but i believe there is hope! Good advice!
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@edje ·
It is indeed though, and being here for almost 6 months and about 3500 posts and comment further, I still have to work my butt of to get some votes in. You can view my posts and their rewards. It is much higher than in the first couple of months, but still each posts with real content cost me at least 2 times on post promotion, including commenting etc etc to get some votes in. But as you can also see, some posts gets pretty ok rewards! Trick is; Like the interaction, like the discussions, like to create a good post, and the rewards will follow. Being here for the rewards, is the wrong approach, then I can assure you, you will be feeling a whole lot negative about Steemit. BTW, most of the higher rewarded post I have are given by vote trains, guild type of voters who have a lot of follow-on voters (SteemTrail and the likes). I also get sometimes dollars on a single comment, from some high power users or several smaller users. But this generally inly happens when the comment is good. What is good is left to the author of the posts and others who may read the comments, but best is to add value to the posts or comments to the post.
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@yakuhi ·
$0.18
Yah, at first I was all about the rewards, but eventually, I realized steemit has so much more potential. To me, it's a great opportunity to reach out to the world and share my ideas in a place where it can actually make an impact.
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