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DAO Attacker Has Drained ETC DAO (Classic)
Here is [The DarkDAO address on the Ethereum Classic chain](http://gastracker.io/addr/0x304a554a310c7e546dfe434669c62820b7d83490).  It occurred earlier today.  The Ethereum Classic blockchain explorer only goes back 256 blocks, but you can see that the Classic DarkDAO is now drained.  No one knows where the new child DarkDAO is but per the current price of ETC, her 3.6 million ETC would be worth $2.3 million USD if she were to sell them today, magically without moving the market at all.  She can't withdraw for a few more weeks yet though. Still a huge haul for a few hours of her time and effort.  Yes, she.  Women can be DAO attackers, too.  

https://ipfs.pics/ipfs/QmdC53TwqxmvR3zTRNYp24pPDBv6JJST5bHrABeFtJGqqH

Did the [Robin Hood Group](https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4p7mhc/update_on_the_white_hat_attack/) figure that ETC was not going to be worth saving for Classic TheDAO token holders ?  Or could they not actually stop/stall the attack?
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@aaseb ·
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Why would anyone keep mining on the old chain?
Unless, maybe you know the hacker and are getting something out of it...
No?
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@ktmgen ·
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The difficulty is much lower than on the regular eth chain, and the price with the pump and dumps is so all over the place, that there actually is money to be made. There also aren't any pools setup on the etc fork(as far as i know) So as a solo miner, the difficulty is low enough to actually make a bit of profit that way as well.
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@aaseb ·
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ok, poloniex is also probably cashing in a lot of transacion fees from that...
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@alaynaspop · 
Simply Great Information and Presentation
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@allycat ·
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I'm pro hack (all hacks) and pro fork ( all forks) until a network can't be hacked or forked any longer.    The code will allow what the code will allow until it's impossible for the code to allow it.      Seriously,  this all seems like something we all should have leaned about in an  episode of Futurama.
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@eeks ·
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You're just pro-pro.  ;)
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@allycat ·
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Pro-dat!
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@steemplayer ·
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Pro-Hemian rhapsody
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@apes ·
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Bitcoin has a male inventor - DAO has an female hacker :D Awsome.
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@ktmgen · 
You must be sexist ;)
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@beervangeer ·
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Let it drain on me .
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@bitnerd ·
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Hey man, Just curious, why do you keep referring to the Dao attacker as a girl? Is there more information out? I'd love to read more about it, as I have been deeply fascinated with this subject but can't find anything more than the Original Hao Hacker letter and the stuff from MP. Thanks! :)
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@chahredine ·
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its a group of pepole who attaced the dao not only one person , they say its a girle to get more curiosity to the subject , im just afraid if pepole are going to do that in this platforme so they get rewarded for over adding informations .
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@eeks ·
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We actually don't know anything yet.  But a "she" is a possibility.
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@ktmgen · 
How do you know that?
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@eeks ·
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Girls are hackers too.  So I could use: he, she, or a gender neutral pronoun. I've opted for she.  If she IS a woman, the story becomes even better.  And probably brings more women into crypto and coding alike.

Win-Win.  ;)
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@bitnerd · 
Got cha, I was just curious if you had any new info that's all, it was news to me :) Thanks!
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@fernando-sanz · 
I loved your point. Now that I think of it, she tends to be a gal :P
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@ktmgen ·
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Because the poster is a woman(I'm assuming) and why not take credit if no one knows, lol.
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@budilontong ·
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Read this [Ethereum Go: Gotta Fork Them All](https://steemit.com/ethereum/@budilontong/ethereum-go-gotta-fork-them-all)
nice post @eeks
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@eeks ·
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Thanks, I appreciate it!
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@ktmgen · 
I like your perspective, you seem on point compared to most people. 

Respect.
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@buyselltrade ·
$0.16
Of course it could be a she, but do actually any indications exist that the hacker is a she?.. just asking out of curiousity..
Btw, the ETC price on poloniex fell like 50% yesterday, maybe it was due to the hacker selling some of his/her ETC.. (it's back up, so no need for a panic ;) )
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@ktmgen ·
$0.16
It is the lack of faith in both etc and eth that is being cause by the etc bs right now that is causing the eth price to be as volatile as it is. And the truth of the fact is, there is no crypto you could have made more money off of today than etc. So thats what people are doing, until it crashes and a few get out, but more are screwed and stuck with thousands of worthless etc.
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@chahredine · 
what is your argument that she ! is a woman ?  the attack wasnt done by an individual ! it was a group of pepole
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@eeks · 
We don't know for sure yet anything so anything is possible.
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@ktmgen · (edited)
$0.16
why does your question hold any relevance at all?

Granted, I agree that is was stupid to say the attacker is a she...
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@cybercodetwins · 
what DAO means?
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@ktmgen · 
Decentralized autonomous organization
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@cynetyc · 
Of course attackers can be women to. Hackers that reach the peak are women olso  but in not here to praise the  hack or hacker...  I ...like a normal person would just want a ether wallet that works ...that is all ...just put funds and take them out... "intelligent people" like to overthink and put to much optins like contracts or smart contracts....I am sick and tyred of this so called "smart" contracts....that people own because of that this attack happen .... the system was and still is weak ....and (lets call it "error" not attack ) error happend an "error" of milions of dollars... people ..and now im revering to designers and creators  and admins just create something easy but with a strong foundation and don't try to put the word "SMART" in everything STUPID that you do . That being said I will test this classic version  and see what is there to do...
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@ktmgen · 
you should use myetherwallet.com. it works exactly as you described,
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@warreagle ·
$0.16
WTF are you even doing then? If you follow ETH, the DAO and the attacks, but dont like smart contracts? Are you a simpleton?
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@ktmgen ·
$0.16
These are the people investing in etc/helping the attacker push the funds out in the pump and dumps. He needs them for that, and there are enough uneducated/out of the loop people, to make it work.
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@fernando-sanz · (edited)
$0.16
So, rounding a bit up:

* powtopos FUD?, did he lie in collusion with "that" or "some" exchange or companies looking forward to dump nicely?
* DAO "attacker" profitting? or should I call "her" *serial-withdrawer*?
* Replay attack ambush?
* Some people tripled BTCs, will some rush to cash out ETC take the BTC on an unlike upward? what about ETH? or why not STEEM :P

Wouldnt it be "cheap" in yesterdays ETC network be a market maker, sparking a rush? 
Oh I feel so n00b, I love it.
I wish I had placed my SMD to STEEM conversion request just a day earlier LOL.
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@ktmgen · (edited)
$0.16
This has a lot of great insight/info, but is worded in a way that most people won't understand or hold interest. Sentence structure and grammar are important if you want to be taken seriously.

You should look for a way to communicate the same info in a more interesting way, than more people will probably understand were you are coming from.
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@eeks ·
$0.16
You're very helpful to people, it's great.
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@frankenstein · 
how the hell do you know it is her and not him?
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@eeks ·
$0.59
Man's intuition.
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@ktmgen · 
lol
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@fusan ·
$0.03
she was selling ETH ?
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@future24 · 
Upvoted! Here you can read an article about the new two blockchains of Ethereum: https://steemit.com/ethereum/@future24/after-the-hardfork-ethereum-s-two-ethereums-explained Im happy about your visit & upvote too!
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@geronimo ·
$0.51
It would be awesome to see this guy dumping every damned ETC.
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@eeks ·
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It would and it wouldn't.  It would crush ETC price but it would hurt all the people who have sincerely believe in ETC.  Some of them are very earnest.  But even if she doesn't sell, it will be a tough technical overhang over the trading of ETC and make it difficult for it to rise -- she will sell into any rise..  And the worst part is that people won't really ever know if she has sold or not.  It's not like she will make an announcement.
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@blakemiles84 ·
$1.08
The DAO hacker(s) likely wants to see Ethereum in any form fall into decay.
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@rok-fabiani · 
Today was traded 100 milion ETC so 3 millions is nothing.

HE made new DAO child so 30 next days he cant touch them.
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@embat · 
Int the offical Ethereum classic it is written "If we want to continue to move forward and guarantee survival of the original Ethereum vision, we must fork Ethereum." This mean they need to procced with fork.  ETC is nothing more  fast prepared scam. Yes many exchangers are going to support it because everyone wants your money.  As I see Kraken is not supported this scam yet and have no intense to do it.  Enter early and leave fast if you want profit. Real World Computer is ETH. Have a nice day and trade friends!
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@ktmgen · 
Kraken is working on supporting it. 

No one looks at a 300% gain in 24 hours and doesn't want to get in on it. It's a huge part of the problem.
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@minion · 
https://steemit.com/steemit/@minion/youtube-vs-steemit-enemies-or-siblings
####  [IMPORTANT] This post covers the Similarity between YouTube and Steemit as well on How to use Steemit and It's OFFICIAL CONTENT RULES. https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/http://i.imgur.com/OlX4SwZ.png
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@ozmaster · 
im not rly sure whats stoping him, he surely will use it to his advantage
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@pheonike · 
ETC are suckers!!!!!
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@condra ·
$0.15
Kraken and Poloniex seem to have a degree of belief in ETC
https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@condra/kraken-announces-support-for-ethereum-classic-etc
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@eeks ·
$0.45
They are doing their best.  I have compassion for that.
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@steemplayer ·
$0.15
I wish I had heard this news before I bought a bunch on a whim today
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@ktmgen ·
$0.15
That was probably a bad decision. unless you bought when it was at .0006 vs now at .0028
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@miz4r · 
I hope you didn't sell your ETC 15 hours ago after you made your post. :p Nothing wrong with ETC by the way I have bought a few myself yesterday because I support immutability and am against bail outs. :)
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@gilang-ramadhan · 
pliss votes back
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@gilang-ramadhan/hii-steemer
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@good-karma · 
ETC could even be to catch the hacker and afterwards, when exchanges recognize or identify hacker, ETC might just disappear few month from now.
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@ktmgen · 
etc will die a few weeks from now...
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@greenhatter · 
This whole ETH/ETC bullshit needs to end!
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@ktmgen · 
elaborate?
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@heimindanger · 
That's a lot of shoes to buy
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@eeks ·
$0.46
She would be buying hovercraft and a new PC and maybe a mining farm.  Shoes seems much less likely.
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@ktmgen · (edited)
$0.17
She would be bragging until her lungs gave out, no woman(not a whole lot of men) can take not getting the credit for something like this. It's too big of a success for that. Not only did they make a 2million dollar short just before the crash, but because of all the idiots buying etc, dude(or chick) is making off with an additional $28million. 


How do you like them apples?
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@hobgoblin · 
By mining Eth Classic, one supports a hacker/thief getting their moneys!
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@ktmgen · 
People investing don't look at it that way. They see the ~250% rise in the past 24 hours next to all other cryptos that are down, and see money to be made.
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@holzmichl · 
Stupid question. Where is argur, digixDAO, MakerDAO, Elephant, String and co now running? On ETH? On ETC? On Both?

Holy shit!
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@ktmgen · 
Wait for augur, it is going to blow your mind!!!
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@ktmgen · 
Maker is a good investment as well...
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@jack1 ·
$0.43
The attacker is probably trying to get out of ETC before Chandler Guo's 51% attack.
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@eeks ·
$0.43
That was a bad idea and I believe he abandoned it.  ETC has an uphill economic battle to continue to exist.  We'll see.

I outline the challenges [ETC faces in this comment](https://steemit.com/ethereum/@logical/miscalculations-about-the-endgame-of-the-ethereum-fork-it-ain-t-over-til-it-s-over#@eeks/re-logical-miscalculations-about-the-endgame-of-the-ethereum-fork-it-ain-t-over-til-it-s-over-20160725t214825034z).
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@jack1 ·
$0.17
There's a lot of good discussion/analysis right now of the short term for ETC.    

In the long term, what do you think about the ETC hard fork as remedy for replay attacks issue I discussed at the end of this post:    https://steemit.com/ethereum/@jack1/if-the-dao-attacker-shorts-eth-buys-etc-and-then-refunds-the-dao-hack-victims-on-the-etc-chain
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@ktmgen ·
$0.17
It is destined to fail, all of the developers have stated they will be working on the eth fork, not etc. So anyone investing in etc, is essentially investing in a useless crypto that no one has noticed is useless yet.
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@ktmgen · (edited)
ETC has the battle to face that it is useless, and will continue to be useless. As the founding developers of eth has stated openly that they will focus on eth and NOT etc, the best etc can do is ride on the coattails of eth by copying developmental advancements directly from the eth code. And, as most developers have stated they will support eth and NOT etc, the effort is null. 

ETC will fail, 100% at somepoint. There is literally no use that will ever put it into practice. ETH still has hope, but is way overvalued in the sense that right now it is worth a lot for being  completely useless.
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@jillstein2016 ·
$0.16
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@eeks ·
$0.16
Maybe maybe not.  More likely not.  By a lot.  And I am very bullish on Steemit's future.  :)
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@jrfantasma · 
This Hacker will still become a legend, if he gets these ETC and working to help market it can destroy the ETH, if he wants revenge he will work on the ETC to devalue the ETH, if he wants to profit it will dump ETC.
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@ktmgen · 
Not super likely. The best option for the attacker is to keep pumping and dumping his etc in small amounts every day over the next few weeks. We'll see if this keeps going the way it is. ETC is a useless chain, and anyone that know what they are doing that is still investing in it is only trying to make money off of idiots. Which is fairly easy to do at a 300% 24 hour gain.
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@ktmgen · (edited)
I am rereading this post, and kind of more certain that you have no idea what you are talking about, lol. Also the fact that there is no blockchain tracker on etc almost guaranteed that the hacker will use etc and not eth, alos, the hacker did not have any of the eth that was stolen prior to the attack, meaning the hf cause him to only have etc in the amount that was stolen. The attacker is probably the only person that will have his eth in only one place, and have to mix/convert it to make it of any use to him.
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@juicyg ·
$0.43
Now it would be interesting to see how and when the attacker chooses to cash out since it would be quite complicated. https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@juicyg/ethereum-classic-is-currently-worth-less-than-the-value-of-the-eth-tokens-taken-by-the-dao-attacker
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@ktmgen ·
$0.19
Most likely the etc will be mixed and pushed out in the pump and dumps over the next week(s). Depends on how long it takes to get it all out while still staying low key.
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@juicyg · (edited)
$0.19
The attacker can now safely liquidate his holdings using Shapeshift without revealing his identity https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@juicyg/shapeshift-adds-etc
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@eeks ·
$0.19
Shapeshift is not as anonymous as people think.  She will have to be smart about it.
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@kewpiedoll · 
So if you held ETH coins prior to the fork, you now own both right?
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@ktmgen · 
Yes
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@konti · 
DAO is born-not paid
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@williambanks · 
Unfortunately it looks like DAO was born DOA.
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@kozmanov · 
good information
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@eeks ·
$0.16
thanks
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@ktmgen · 
Here's on the hf from Vitalik https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/07/26/onward_from_the_hard_fork/

Here is some more info on etc right now:
https://steemit.com/etherium/@ktmgen/etc-does-a-years-worth-of-ups-and-downs-in-24-hours
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@magix ·
$0.19
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/09/09aafa37dd14701cfd302eb8963d1e1c0faa5119d60e2671eea5f13620231492.jpg
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@mguy808 · 
Yet another reason im glad i traded my eth back into bitcoin awhile ago. It was easy. If you have the jaxx wallet for android you can shift between your bitcoin, Eth and DAO within the wallet itself.
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@nelu.ceban · 
nooo
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@nzoomed ·
$0.16
There IS a way out of ETH/ETC. Its called XEM and its been travelling under the radar.
Feel free to ask me any questions :)
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@eeks ·
$0.16
I know nothing about it.  Why differentiates it?  Is it just a currency?
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@nzoomed · 
Its way more than just a currency, it can do what ETH can without smart contracts, it has a very powerful API
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@ktmgen · 
lol, what is the buy volume on that?
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@ozmaster · 
lol wasnt that to be expected?
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@pirial · 
https://steemit.com/ethereum/@pirial/dual-enrollment-on-poloniex-com-dvoinoe-zachislenie-na-poloniex-com-ru-or-en
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@politicasan2 · (edited)
@eeks but ethereum classic [increase 100%  in value and 6th most traded on coinmarketcap. ](https://steemit.com/ethereum/@politicasan2/ethereum-classic-trading-volume-6th-on-coinmarketcap)
Its a wise decision to buy some etc and hold or not?
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@eeks ·
$0.52
I'll write something on ETC today.
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@politicasan2 · (edited)
$0.19
ok  i am wait your analysis today, thanks in advance
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@ktmgen · (edited)
$0.19
No. There is no future in etc. It will be pump and dumps until death.(how else is the doa attacker going to get their etc out)

https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/07/26/onward_from_the_hard_fork/
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@eeks ·
$0.18
There is a non-zero chance that ETC wins. More likely today than yesterday.
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@qonq99 · 
http://i99.beon.ru/24.media.tumblr.com/6da6ff167aa93c100e1adbd061a1b00a/tumblr_mi5uqfJdWK1r0lc86o2_r1_500.gif
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@soratoasu ·
$0.16
could this have something to do with the price spike of etc today? or its just a weird coincidence ?
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@eeks ·
$0.16
You never know...

but probably not.
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@steemedbroccoli · 
Does this mean there will be another fork to 3 ETHs?
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@eeks ·
$0.43
There are already multiples and were before hand.  [Look up Expanse](https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/3545/introducing-expanse-exp-the-second-ethereum-fork) from last year.
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@ktmgen ·
$0.19
Here's vitalik on the hard fork and clones/takeoffs of eth

https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/07/26/onward_from_the_hard_fork/
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@gabbans · 
i will expect all to be patient andwatchful
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@johnnyd · 
lol
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@radioogaga · 
I agree.  This has been a disaster.  Hard fork should never have happened. Its the equivalent of a bailout for The DAO. A smart contract that was coded with flaws.  It never was an ethereal issue.
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@eeks ·
$0.43
Bailouts are taking from the many to support the few with the idea that it is good for the many.  In this case, the HF undid a theft effectively.  But it's even more benign than that -- at the consensus level, basically everyone on the old chain agreed to move to the new chain and leave behind the attack and the attacker.  Currencies and blockchains have no value without the people involved and they can always leave go in a different direction.
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@ktmgen ·
$0.19
You obviosly don't understand what a bailout is. You should probably look it up and know the differences between it and this situation so you have an educated perspective to push on the subject when you choose to voice your opinion.
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@steemedbroccoli · 
I agree I was just starting to get into ETH but a hardfork because they suck at coding? Kinda kills the crypto vibe.
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@steve-mcclair · 
I knew this Ethereum Classic was a scam. Area 51 is for real and is not a scam. 

https://steemit.com/area/@steve-mcclair/area-51-steemit-has-arrived
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@innuendo ·
$0.17
<blockquote>I knew this Ethereum Classic was a scam.</blockquote>
<p>Please define what your definition of a scam is. If you have any proof of dishonest intentions of people behind ETC, this is a perfect occasion to supply it.</p>
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@eeks ·
$0.17
Thanks for flagging this.  Good work.
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@williambanks ·
$0.28
You ETC backers do realize that this is most likely the Russian Mob you're dealing with at this point, don't you?  Every pro-ETC post has been during Russian waking hours and the pro-ETC group is predominantly Russian.  
http://ci.memecdn.com/716/5090716.jpg
Not trying to be racist here, but when the predominant group rooting for a thug is overwhelmingly coming from one area, it gives one pause for consideration to think about who they are doing business with and just how many sockpuppets are involved.  

That said I don't think you're all bad people.  I would be shocked to find out that the whole ETC movement had a core of more than 3 people who were involved in the theft.  The rest of you are just easily manipulated.  

The funny part about all of this is that pro-ETC supporters don't realize that the earlier they hopped on that band wagon, the closer they are socially to the actual thief.  Thus you may want to reassess your viewpoints on that whole mess.  It really does not speak highly of your ability to reason critically and function in society if you support the theft of millions of dollars from unsuspecting individuals irrespective of the circumstances, rules or final outcome.  

What you've been supporting is direct theft of millions of dollars meant to help people.  You really can't rationalize that away while still remaining a rational being.  

The best you can say is &quot;Well he came up with a cool hack, so I guess it's worth throwing my money away to give him an escape vector by helping him to cash out.  I don't mind bagholding&quot;.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e0/e4/be/e0e4bef75046a86bd69389a5ec98f3ae.jpg
As for the future of ETC. As soon as he cashes out, he'll stop paying for this pump scheme and ETC will finish going away.  All you'll have for your trouble is the comfort of knowing you stuck to your guns and supported a thief who tried to rob millions of dollars from thousands of people.  

Thanks to your collective efforts this guy and his close friends got wealthy, perhaps not as wealthy as they had hoped.   At least the real DAO funds were returned to their rightful owners.  So this time it really is only your money that's getting taken.  You buy ETC at this point and you are going into this with eyes wide open.  You are compensating a thief for his theiving because he did such a good job but can't be compensated any other way because the rest of society views it as stolen goods.  

*But hey I guess that's your bag, so please feel free to hold it all the way down!*

Also, yes it is a guy.  This attempt to cast the hacker as female is a sympathy ploy and a psyop from the person or group manipulating you.  I'm not saying that females aren't just as dirty as males, but if a female was stealing on this scale you would never find out about it.  A girl this good, would have several men at the ready to take the fall.

You think it's like this...
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/hua_hsu/berlatsky_geekgirl_post.jpg
And either way you're like...
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n579/parsley1995/stopit.png
But it's more like...
http://i.imgur.com/QQ7kaYK.jpg
Women , even seriously aspie, autistic, geek girls are generally more concerned with group dynamics than individual enrichment.  Ergo if a girl is involved it might be as ringleader, but it sure as hell wouldn't be all on her own.  

I've known my share of girl geeks including plenty of blackhats.  They can't be all lumped into any single category, but that whole group dynamics thing seems to be there for everyone I've ever met.  Who knows maybe she is something really special?  Maybe she is the major exception and I'm way off base here.  

But I believe when he is caught, the whole thing will make for an interesting story and you'll find you've been rooting for a hairy fat guy who never leaves his mom's basement.

If it rustles your jimmies, you can keep whatever fantasy you want of some pink haired uber l337 hacker chick, but it's not a reflection of the facts we can establish.
  http://img.memecdn.com/What-hackers-look-like_c_121460.jpg
Truth is if profiling can be believed... 

The hacker is mid 20s to early 30s, around 5'5, 180-240lbs. Russian with good English skills possibly native. Above average programming and general analytical ability. Obviously active in the crypto community.  Very likely wears contacts but is near sighted and needs heavy glasses when not wearing contacts.  Not in great shape, but he does try to keep himself fit, it's just not working.  This causes an &quot;inner mirror&quot; conflict, meaning his self esteem is reduced by his reality so he overcompensates in his imaginary life and online.  He has issues with control and authority.  Likely due to an overbearing parent, or relative.  He's fine with group dynamics so long as those dynamics support what he is saying, otherwise he will rage about it in online forums.  

I can promise you this person is active in reddit on /btc /bitcoin and /ethereum likely they are on bitcointalk as well or at least they were.   They will be one of the earliest people pushing for ETC, but in all cases most activity is likely via sockpuppets.  They will use their real profile to argue against ETC,  weakly as a way of drawing attention away from themselves and also making the arguments against ETC seem weak.  Things like &quot;code is contract&quot; and &quot;immutable blockchain is the law&quot; will be prevalent in the sockpuppets vocabulary.  While much weaker arguments are being made against ETC such as &quot;In crypto you should follow the longest fork&quot; and &quot;ETC doesn't have the blessing of Vitalik or the other devs&quot; or &quot;This only works with consensus&quot;.  Both sides of these arguments of course can be easily deconstructed and attacked because they really aren't valid reasons to support ETH or any crypto for that matter.

Most likely worked a day job as a person who writes unit tests, or automated testing frameworks or possibly as a pen-tester.  That is assuming they are still employed.  If still employed, this person has been having troubles at work and have probably been laid off or fired now for attitude and attention issues.  
Highly likely he had a girlfriend who recently left him.

*If you want a detailed breakdown on how I worked up this profile just upvote this and ask nicely and I'll make a blog posting in a day or two where I go through explaining how that process works and how you can work out these sorts of things too.*

Either way, he's completely oblivious to the trap he just stumbled into.

You see Poloniex is a registered and licensed USA based exchange who must by law comply with AML/KYC and that involves stopping and reporting elicit activity to the feds.  Those ETC DAO funds are the proceeds of actionable, international, criminal, activity and extremely visible.   If the FBI or Secret Service didn't tell Polo to add ETC and report back every person who sends ETC funds there then tries to withdraw traded ETC as something else, I would be beyond shocked.  Either way Polo has a legal obligation to fill out suspicious activity reports on anyone dealing in ETC DAO funds, it would be against the law for them not to and they could be shut down for it.

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/41104162.jpg
Hello Honey Pot!

Just my thoughts on the matter.  Believe what you want, but try not to be so easily manipulated.
Enjoy!
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@aaseb ·
$0.20
Why would anyone keep mining on the old chain?
Unless, maybe you know the hacker and are getting something out of it...
No?
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@eeks ·
$0.18
It's definitely possible but also definitely not probable.  People just want to dream explains ETC and traders want to trade.
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@ktmgen · 
Because it's easier than mining the new one...
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@williambanks · 
Thank you for summarizing in 3 lines and probably 5 minutes, something that took me a bit over an hour and in excess of 500 words :)  Here ya go, have an upvote on me!
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@ktmgen ·
$0.18
&quot;As for the future of ETC. As soon as he cashes out, he'll stop paying for this pump scheme and ETC will finish going away. All you'll have for your trouble is the comfort of knowing you stuck to your guns and supported a thief who tried to rob millions of dollars from thousands of people.&quot; 

That shit is on point.
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@williambanks ·
$0.18
Thanks @ktmgen !  
Upvoted!
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@wingz · 
I dumped that ETC magical nonsense coin the moment I realized I had some. This is looking really scammy for ETH.

I mean come on... the market dynamics of this are simple, this is some kind of parallel universe where the DAO attacker won. Whats he or she? going to do... dump their magical coins to oblivion.

What an absolute joke Ethereum has become.
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@beowulf · (edited)
You mean ETC (Etcetera coin), right? :p
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@eeks ·
$0.43
ETC or ETH is a joke?
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@ktmgen · 
ETC
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@miz4r · 
ETH
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@innuendo · (edited)
$0.80
<blockquote>This is looking really scammy for ETH.</blockquote>
<p>Please define what scammy means. It's quite upsetting to observe how people are misusing the word.</p>
<p>This is how @dan has nailed it perfectly:</p>
<blockquote>Intentionally misrepresenting and slandering other platforms while spreading FUD is the biggest scam being perpetrated by in the cryptocurrency industry. </blockquote>
<blockquote>It is perfectly reasonable to speculate that the price will go up or down in the future. It is also reasonable to question the economic game theory and stability behind a platform. What is not reasonable is to speculate on the intentions of others or to imply that there is something dishonest or fraudulent when everything is open and transparent.</blockquote>
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@eeks ·
$0.52
Very true.
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@jasonmcz · 
Me too.
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@wingz · 
I'm out of both, no idea whats going on, scammy was the wrong word to use. Maybe uncertainty and a complete lack of understanding mixed in with some market manipulation would have been better :o
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@wisehammer ·
$0.17
wait when they release their counterpart for social network.
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@eeks · 
Will it be like their reddit sub?
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