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How to use your ledger device with hive-ledger-cli
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The purpose of this post is to fulfill Ledger documentation requirements. It is a guide for advanced users that would like to use Hive application with a CLI (Command-line interface). In the near future I will provide an updated tutorial with user-friendly wallet supporting Ledger Hive application.

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# Introduction

Hardware wallets are considered to be the most secure way to keep your crypto assets. From now on, Ledger Nano S and X can be used to protect your Hive account. This guide will help you protecting your Hive account with keys derived on your ledger device and treat is as a cold wallet. This is the ultimate protection for your account.

## Quickly about Hive

Hive is different than most blockchains. It has two native assets: HIVE and HBD (Hive Backed Dollar) and usernames instead of public addresses. Those accounts have different keys associated with different roles (owner, active, posting and memo). Every role can contain different key. To ultimately protect your Hive account it is recommended to replace your Owner key with the one derived from your device - this will protect you from leaking your private key by mistake.

# Requirements

Before you start, make sure you have
 * Initialized Ledger device with newest firmware (2.0 for S and 1.3.0 for X)
 * Hive application installed on your device

# Install `hive-ledger-cli`

`hive-ledger-cli` is a npm package that can be installed globally on your system. In order to use it, you need to have NodeJS installed on your system. 

To install `hive-ledger-cli` simply paste

```bash=
sudo npm install -g hive-ledger-cli --unsafe-perm
```

Validate your installation with following command which should show you the CLI help

```bash=
hive-ledger-cli --help
```

# Get an account

**If you already have Hive account, you can skip this part.**

Hive accounts are not free - they need to be created by another user and it costs 3 HIVE. There are multiple providers of Hive accounts. Most of them requires some sort of validation (i.e phone or email) and some can utilize different crypto assets (like BTC) to pay the fee.

Visit and choose what fits you best:

https://signup.hive.io

# How to validate public key

In order to validate public key derived from a specified [SLIP-0048](https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0048.md) path, you can use `get-public-key` command:


```
USAGE
  $ hive-ledger-cli get-public-key PATH

ARGUMENTS
  PATH  BIP 32 path to derive key from

OPTIONS
  -c, --confirm  Force confirmation on Ledger device
  -h, --help     show CLI help

EXAMPLE
  $ hive-ledger-cli get-public-key "m/48'/13'/0'/0'/0'"
  Establishing transport with Hive application... done
  STM5m57x4BXEePAzVNrjUqYeh9C2a7eez1Ya2wPo7ngWLQUdEXjKn

```

1. Connect your device, unlock and open Hive application.

![](https://i.imgur.com/E5vdx3o.jpg)

3. Select [SLIP-0048](https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0048.md) path you want to generate and validate public key for. Example key valid for Hive is `m/48'/13'/0'/0'/0'`
4. Type `hive-ledger-cli get-public-key "m/48'/13'/0'/0'/0'" -c`

![](https://i.imgur.com/55oecOv.png)


4. Navigate using left and right buttons to inspect public key. Make sure it's the same that in your terminal

![](https://i.imgur.com/Gnggq0f.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/M8HeJ7v.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/yKceFr5.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/sFxsNIh.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/zYvqRBO.jpg)

6. Confirm public key by pressing both buttons on "Approve" screen.

![](https://i.imgur.com/YDvVEQV.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/7Ied1zR.png)


# How to associate Hive account with your Ledger device

If you already have your Hive username, you can use your ledger device to ultimately protect it by changing all your keys to the ones derived from your device.

In the example below, we will associate existing account called `test.ledger` with the device. You will need current owner private key in Hive supported WIF format.

```
USAGE
  $ hive-ledger-cli associate-account USERNAME

ARGUMENTS
  USERNAME  Account to associate

OPTIONS
  -d, --dry              dry run will only print signed transaction instead broadcasting it
  -h, --help             show CLI help
  -k, --key-gap=key-gap  [default: 5] Gap limit for unused key indexes on which the software decides that SLIP-0048 account index is not used
  -t, --testnet          use testnet configuration

EXAMPLE
  $ hive-ledger-cli associate-account test.ledger
  Found existing account:  test.ledger

  This operation will replace ALL your keys with those from your device. First, we need to find new keys for your owner, active and posting authorities.

  Press any key to continue or q to exit:
  Establishing transport with Hive application... done
  Searching for unused keys on your device... done

  New owner key:  STM7ZEBoDotbYpnyNHdARYMDBMNnLWpV7fiiGa6pvHbXhfRo9ZrDf
  Derivation path:  m/48'/13'/0'/1'/0'
  Please confirm this public key on your device... done

  New active key:  STM5zpFRqa73yFULSwUYfPSftx4fE7kha9YfkAPR9yKvNLKU2QDFu
  Derivation path:  m/48'/13'/1'/1'/0'
  Please confirm this public key on your device... done

  New posting key:  STM6YGUesBwuotbZvcfqoXfjQUrfVXGYwJZ9DCHEiFLQfxUsLK9M1
  Derivation path:  m/48'/13'/4'/1'/0'
  Please confirm this public key on your device... done

  Now you need to enter your CURRENT OWNER PRIVATE KEY in WIF format. It will be used to update your account with a new keys. Please be aware that this operation will replace ALL of your current keys

  Enter your current PRIVATE OWNER KEY for test.ledger:
```

1. Connect your device, unlock and open Hive application.

![](https://i.imgur.com/E5vdx3o.jpg)

2. Type in your terminal (replace `test.ledger` with your own username) and follow the instruction

```bash
hive-ledger-cli associate-account test.ledger
```

3. Software will derive a new set of public keys and will make sure those are unused by searching in blockchain for those keys. 

4. Validate and approve three keys from on your device.

![](https://i.imgur.com/Gnggq0f.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/M8HeJ7v.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/yKceFr5.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/sFxsNIh.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/zYvqRBO.jpg)

6. Confirm public key by pressing both buttons on "Approve" screen.

![](https://i.imgur.com/YDvVEQV.jpg)

5. Repeat this step for next two keys.

6. Enter your current owner private key in WIF format

7. Your account is now associated with your device. You can validate it with ["How to find accounts associated with your device"](#how-to-find-accounts-associated-with-your-device) tutorial.

# How to find accounts associated with your device

You can quickly check which accounts are associated with your device (those will have owner authority derived from your device).


1. Connect your device, unlock and open Hive application.

![](https://i.imgur.com/E5vdx3o.jpg)

2. Type in your terminal

```bash=
hive-ledger-cli discover-accounts
```

3. Wait for the result with your accounts listed in a table

![](https://i.imgur.com/XRbhz5h.png)

# How to receive HIVE or HBD

If you know your account username, you can use it as a receiver address from any other wallet or exchange for HIVE or HBD. If you don't remember it, use `hive-ledger-cli` to determine account names associated with your device.

```
USAGE
  $ hive-ledger-cli discover-accounts [ROLE]

ARGUMENTS
  ROLE  (owner|active|memo|posting) [default: owner] Role to check for

OPTIONS
  -a, --account-gap=account-gap  [default: 5] Gap limit for unused account indexes after which the software decides that device is not used
  -d, --dry                      dry run will only print signed transaction instead broadcasting it
  -h, --help                     show CLI help
  -k, --key-gap=key-gap          [default: 5] Gap limit for unused key indexes on which the software decides that device is not used
  -t, --testnet                  use testnet configuration

EXAMPLE
  $ hive-ledger-cli discover-accounts

```
1. Connect your device, unlock and open Hive application.

![](https://i.imgur.com/E5vdx3o.jpg)

3. Type `hive-ledger-cli discover-accounts` and wait for process to finish

![](https://i.imgur.com/rjhOrXf.png)

3. You can see two accounts connected with this ledger: `acronyms` and `test.ledger`. Both can be used to receive funds.

4. You can validate path and public key with ["How to validate public key"](#how-to-validate-public-key) tutorial

# How to transfer HIVE or HBD to another account

You can send liquid tokens (HIVE or HBD) withing 3 seconds to any other existing Hive account. 

```
USAGE
  $ hive-ledger-cli transfer PATH FROM TO AMOUNT [MEMO]

ARGUMENTS
  PATH    BIP 32 (SLIP-0048) path to derive key from and use to sign the transaction
  FROM    sender
  TO      receiver
  AMOUNT  amount to send
  MEMO    optional transfer memo
```

To send `0.001 HIVE` from `test.ledger` to `engrave` account:

1. Connect your device, unlock and open Hive application.

![](https://i.imgur.com/E5vdx3o.jpg)

2. Type in your terminal

```bash=
hive-ledger-cli transfer "m/48'/13'/0'/2'/0'" test.ledger engrave "0.001 HIVE" "Sent using ledger device!"
```

![](https://i.imgur.com/u2NCGSr.png)

3. Use left and right buttons to verify transaction on your hardware wallet.

![](https://i.imgur.com/sh2zh9X.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/nqvYQUi.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/BKg8pW1.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/v0eTCE0.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/toFCSW5.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/jzxeaAM.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/y1UBY9m.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/bxgL0oz.jpg)

4. Accept the transaction by pressing both buttons on "Approve" screen.

![](https://i.imgur.com/YDvVEQV.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/Lus0eYw.png)

# How to stake HIVE


To gain more governance power over Hive blockchain, you can convert your HIVE into Hive Power. We call it "powering up" and other blockchains calls it "staking". Underneath, your tokens are converted to VESTS. Withdrawal of your staked HIVE (converting it back to liquid HIVE) will take 13 weeks.

To convert HIVE into HP (Hive Power), use `hive-ledger-cli`.

```
USAGE
  $ hive-ledger-cli transfer-to-vesting PATH FROM TO AMOUNT

ARGUMENTS
  PATH    BIP 32 (SLIP-0048) path to derive key from and use to sign the transaction
  FROM    source account
  TO      target account
  AMOUNT  amount to stake

OPTIONS
  -d, --dry      dry run will only print signed transaction instead broadcasting it
  -h, --help     show CLI help
  -t, --testnet  use testnet configuration
```

1. Connect your device, unlock and open Hive application.

![](https://i.imgur.com/E5vdx3o.jpg)

2. Type in your terminal

```bash=
hive-ledger-cli transfer-to-vesting "m/48'/13'/0'/2'/0'" test.ledger test.ledger "0.001 HIVE"
```

3. Use left and right keys to verify transaction on your hardware wallet

![](https://i.imgur.com/sh2zh9X.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/nqvYQUi.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/OnL6Lgc.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/v0eTCE0.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/SWf4uAH.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/jzxeaAM.jpg)

4. Accept the transaction by pressing both buttons on "Approve" screen.

![](https://i.imgur.com/YDvVEQV.jpg)

![](https://i.imgur.com/jDupcLj.png)

# Where to find account balance

You can use `hive-ledger-cli` package to check any account balance:

```
$ hive-ledger-cli balance test.ledger
```
Will produce
```
Balances for @test.ledger account
----------------
Liquid:  0.998 HIVE, 0.001 HBD
Savings: 0.000 HIVE, 0.000 HBD
Staked:  0.001 HP
----------------
Pending rewards: 0.000 HP, 0.000 HIVE, 0.000 HBD
```

You can view your account balance on multiple block explorer and Hive powered social media frontends. Most of them support `/@username` standard. For example:

https://hiveblocks.com/@test.ledger
https://hiveblockexplorer.com/@test.ledger
https://hive.ausbit.dev/@test.ledger
https://peakd.com/@test.ledger/wallet
https://wallet.hive.blog/@test.ledger

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@dandays · 
Best response I read all am.
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@demotruk ·
$0.23
I've just ordered a new Ledger Nano X because of this post.

I had multiple of the old school HW1 Ledger wallets, Black Friday 2015 special edition. I haven't really used them in years because I no longer hold Bitcoin. Now I finally have a good reason to have a hardware wallet again.
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@easytutorial · 
thank you for this very interesting tutorial and I add for my part this article on [The ultimate guide to install ronindojo and become a Bitcoin Samourai [2022]](https://www.investing-press.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-install-ronindojo-and-become-a-bitcoin-samourai-2022/)
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@engrave · 
Your link has nothing to do with this article so I consider it spam. This is a good way to be downvoted and lose your reputation.
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@eliasseth · 
Very very interesting this post... Thanks for share!
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@evileddy · 
Woah!  This is good tech stuff!  

Let me know when they offer the user-friendly wallet supporting Ledger Hive application!!!
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@engrave · 
Will do!
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@gargi · 
i wish to buy hardware wallet to connect my hive aacount..but unfortunately it is not available in India..😐 but soon it will be for Indian user too... always hope for the best.....
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@gtg ·
$40.10
Thank you for your hard work!

I saw how much time and effort it took.
And a lot of sacrifices (such as absence on meetups! ;-) )

Well done!

This comment has 100% beneficiary set to @engrave so if anyone wish to double the prize, be my guest :-)
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@engrave ·
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Thanks, I appreciate this :)
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@gubbatv · 
This is sooo cool, thank you so much! I always wondered why I couldn't add Hive to my hardware wallet and now I can! Epic!!
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@igormuba ·
$0.03
If only I had a Ledger, they look awesome and very versatile!

But I used the money I had to buy crypto. Guess I will sabe this post for a next opportunity
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@katou.kanga · 
Beware. Ledger had a huge information dump in 2019. One guy in Mexico said he lost $10,000 because of it. I, at the time living in France, was considering buying it. Then changed my mind. I trust their food more than I trust their crypto wallets. Macron is rotten to the core🤮
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@engrave · 
Indeed their e-commerce data leaked some time ago (addresses, phone numbers etc) but there is no way that it could lead to a device compromise other than social engineering or another kind of manipulation/phishing. So the statement that someone lost $10k because of this is not true.
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@keychain · 
Awesome! Do you plan to add support for all active authority operations?
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@engrave · 
The ledger hw app supports 37 operations that can be performed by the user (I believe it's a complete set). I haven't had time to add it to the CLI. Most of those will be available in a GUI wallet.
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@keychain ·
$3.07
Great! Ledger integration will be one of our priorities once we finish our refactor and the Ledger App is available. Thanks for your work!
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@marki99 ·
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Thank you for your work! 

It's really amazing.
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@miko820 · 
Great
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@mintrawa ·
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Great work that I think required a few boxes of paracetamol. Thank you for your contribution to the HIVE ecosystem 👍
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@mlrequena78 ·
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Excellent work friend, congratulations and success, perseverance always bears good results.
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@pizzabot · 
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@quochuy ·
$0.26
Excellent!
Can we have an option in the CLI to add authority instead of replacing existing ones?
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@engrave · 
Sure, I'm going to add more features. I just wanted to add required things and submit the app. Now I will have more time to fine tune it ;)
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@quochuy · 
awesome work
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@schmidi ·
$0.03
Thanks for that Infos!
Greets
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@shrikal · 
The post is really informative and interesting specially about Hive power and staking!
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@transformation7 · 
This post is crazy informative! I have been considering ledger and now know exactly how to use it when I have made the leap. I am extremely new to trading cryptocurrency and crypto gaming and have been having so much fun learning about all of this. It's a brave new world that, apparently, has already been here for some years. I am finally catching up. Thank you for this post!
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@tungchook · 
😊
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@urun · 
good stuff!!!
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@vincentnijman ·
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Awesomeness! Bookmarked this valuable and exciting post for when I have time and the peace of mind to actually understand this. Recently ordered a new Ledger ( Nano X ) after having used the Ledger Nano S for a couple of years.
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@engrave ·
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Just wait for the app to be easily accessible via Ledger Live and for a new wallet :)<div class="pull-right"><a href="/@hive.engage">![](https://i.imgur.com/XsrNmcl.png)</a></div>
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@vincentnijman · 
Will do. cheers! :^)
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@xoxois · 
Does the app work for android or mobile users?
Direct connection from Android to general ledger device?
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@engrave · 
Current solution (CLI) works only for PC but future wallet might be mobile compatible.
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@xoxois · 
Yeah, maybe if it happened soon it would be even more perfect, but for now, it's so much better progress.
I salute 😍🥰🤗🤗
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@zorank · 
Thanks for taking so much time to write this tutorial, @engrave.
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