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· @firedream · (edited)
$49.09
RESIST
### We will resist the @GrumpyCat

![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmTxCg92Ry27FFcakq7TkXYBYg1BuSUxhXh7wzG3gSvjdz/image.png)

Dear friends, comrades, people with courage...

This @grumpycat has no intention to stop. We again had fresh posts downvoted by @grumpycat today.

* I have tried to talk to him reasonably - no effect
* I have started a protest - no effect
* I tried to contact whales and call for help - no help

### Now it is time, steemians for steemians.

I want to announce that I am working on building a *fighting and defending* bot.
I am not a coder as a profession and until now I was able only to develop crap android games and client-side applications.
Now I am planning to build a server-side application that will :

1. Allow people to *register* and allocate voting-weight to the system.
2. With this voting weight, we will :
* Upvote people that are downvoted by @grumpycat ( mass protect )
* Downvote @grumpycat's self-upvoted posts.(for all the known accounts like @checkthisout) ( piranha attack )
3. We will remove our votes if @grumpycat removes his vote because he first pisses with a tiny upvote to mark the post that he will super upvote later.
4. We will put "resistance flag" from only one post for all downvotes and upvotes.
5. It will be completely open-source.Anyone can check the source code and see their posting keys are not visible.

Right now, @grumpycat is at 370k SP. Normally to fight equally we need at least 1000 people with an average of 300 SP.
But even with 100 or 200 people, we can give a hurt and defend, and it is better than nothing.

If there is someone, that is experienced in node-js development and that can develop this code please inform me because for me it will take days and nights.
For someone with enough experience, it is 5 hrs job and utopian will pay.

Forget the whales, they will not join this fight because they will be a single target.
But we will be a mass target that protects each other.
![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmSKmTGopBuhUuigL5kBYSd1q15JEZKoirV1wErBf3gWdP/image.png)

## Who is in?



FD.
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@contentjunkie ·
$4.43
"Allow people to register and allocate voting-weight to the system."

Sorry, your system should not require anyone to signup for anything and even if you do go that route you should use Steemconnect which is trusted and open source.

All you really need to do is ask people to delegate SP to the account you plan to use to counter grumpy.  So if someone wants to support they can just delegate to that account however much SP they wish to donate and take it away whenever they wish to stop supporting you.
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@firedream · (edited)
Thank you very much for your recommendation.
I will use steemconnect.Much more trustable.
SP delegation is 7 days and needs trust. Flag bot can be canceled instantly.
I believe the contribution will be higher.

FD.
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@contentjunkie ·
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@r351574nc3 ·
Sounds good. I think that people thinking of similar things only adds credence to the possibility of success here. There should be an experiment to see how far we get. We (@firedream) should draft a EULA and disclaimer for users to agree to when delegating SP. This way we can manage our expectations and no one gets hurt.
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@drakos · (edited)
$0.08
Easily done with bots, that's what these abusers use after all.
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@dwayne16 ·
$0.08
This is not easy but it is very good, you will need support from every community
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@firedream ·
![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmfJxHKDwrkxPNj3pAeBKKNziAka5QVQpT5TkbSx54Dg4p/image.png)

We started resisting and you are invited!
Check this link,spread the word and join us if you would agree.

https://steemit.com/we-resist/@firedream/resistance-started

Discord : https://discord.gg/qMWCbWR

FD
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@everittdmickey ·
not me...I'm too busy playing 'toss the running chainsaw' with my two year old.
much safer than what you propose.
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@firedream ·
$0.05
You are right... I can not blame you.
But don't forget, he has more to lose than us.
FD.
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@everittdmickey ·
er..no.
if you set a rabid bot loose in the block chain you can break it.
then we all lose.
the apacalypse
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@r351574nc3 ·
There should be a tally of supporters, so you can calculate the amount of potential SP there is between us. If we have enough SP, it might be worth just building our own whale for the specific purposes of
1. Leaving traditional voting bots behind
2. Battling grumpycat through up/downvotes
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@learnguitar · (edited)
$1.73
@firedream I am sorry but I don't think I can actively participate in the resistance. It seems the bot owners would want to free ride on any interventions. And I just dont understand why we would subsidize non GC compliant upvotes which seems like only way to resist is make his intervention just destroy lots of money while making GC net effect zero so actors can just ignore, but the real price would have to be over what the people even send since not just the cost of of the bid, but the opportunity cost of just using a substitute and not having your money locked up as long as it takes for a refund which is unknown until GV strikes so some time value loss to money advantage to the nature of the GC intervention. But if bot owners are not willing to pay such cost then completely pointless to reward them that for free to what real benefit? 

I'll be honest I was making a killing for a few days getting 6day upvotes like10-30% returns which is like exponential growth, which it is anyways, but much shorter interval. It was great would love to go back to that for a bit so I can make a killing. But perhaps that is non sustainable, it would cause inflation and devalue steem/sbd by having a significant expansion in the money supply (at least for one special group of actors) without a concurrent and sufficient expansion in utility which, is just whatever people who value steem value. 

If I can help promote cool stuff or cool things you are doing do not hestitate to ask me for a resteem or a like. Hope the weekend has been going well for you bud!!

https://steemit.com/philosophy/@fatkat/fatkat-becomes-grumpycat-votebuyer-compliant
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@firedream ·
$0.11
@learnguitar, I understand you. The question is, why do not bot owners protect their customers?
I have contacted with sneaky-ninja on the issue to see if I can achieve a quick solution by convincing him.
The result is negative.
But there is a loss of innocent people with fresh posts.
We all have the habbit to wait for the solution from a center since decentralization is new for all of us.
In decentralization, to prevent the rules to be put by the bullies, we have to get organized and change the game.
Thank you for your support. Anything counts.

FD.
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@salty-mcgriddles ·
$0.14
Moar like this!
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@vlemon ·
I have just been attacked. I upvoted with sneaky-ninja 10 mins after posting and still got flagged.
I can't post my point of view right now but I will join this resistance by Monday.
Expect my post to be massively seen. GrumpyCat IS a Bully, I did nothing wrong and had no idea this bot was "non-compliant". No warning, just 3 downvotes...
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@r351574nc3 · (edited)
Here's the thing. What really hurts the reward pool are whales like @grumpycat. @grumpycat likes to take the moral high ground allowing people to take his side and allow him to continue his abuse. 

Whales could simply self-vote (like @grumpycat) and abuse the rewardpool. However, they figured "Hey! Instead of just growing bigger and bigger while snuffing out minnows, why don't I just give them a chance by letting them buy my vote?"

In an act of mercy, whales seeing the huge problem that is upon our economy started using voting bots. Yes, they're making a killing from SBD; however, it's not nearly as much as if they just self voted. So you see, the rewards are more spread out in the pool thanks to voting bots.

## How is @grumpycat hurting things

Well, @grumpycat likes to attack rewards 6.5 days after post. This returns rewards back to the pool. This doesn't benefit steemians. It benefits @grumpycat. Why? Because @grumpycat is abusing the reward pool. While voting bots distribute rewards to users, @grumpycat consolidates them again undoing the benefit of voting bots.

So you all that think @grumpycat is helping because he claims he's going after scammers and abusers, he is the real abuser and collecting all the rewards. It's a con people.

## More obvious example (If all whales were like @grumpycat)

Just imagine all the voting bots are gone and whales do what @grumpycat does (self vote). There's barely any rewards left in the pool for minnows, and no way for minnows to increase their rewards. Then what? Think about it.
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@learnguitar ·
$1.59
I've got 100 sp on it. If it is re tooled to only protect people outside of GC compliance. It sucks the bots aren't protecting them and GC isn't either. I will not be subsidizing the upvote bots who could easily have done this a while ago, or at least done it for the collateral damage.

GC unvoted his attack on me so i mean I wasn't collateral damage ultimately, just my time and life was wasted so to that extent I was but worth it to catalyze an important conversation. Which I mean he wants to do what he thinks is right--or profitable--he has the right do what he wants with his proeperty-- and perhaps the collateral damage forces you and me to not sit on the sidelines anymore.
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@firedream ·
![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmfJxHKDwrkxPNj3pAeBKKNziAka5QVQpT5TkbSx54Dg4p/image.png)

We started resisting and you are invited!
Check this link,spread the word and join us if you would agree.

https://steemit.com/we-resist/@firedream/resistance-started

Discord : https://discord.gg/qMWCbWR

FD
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@limabeing ·
https://steemit.com/life/@zipporah/choosing-life

please help my friend. she got flagged ON A FKING POST ABOUT DEPRESSION .... 

Also Im in MSP so message me limabeing#2123 and lets talk about mass campaign to shut this down. money may be power but numbers are power too.
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@firedream ·
$2.97
Hello @limabeing...we are about to finish the we-resist bot.
We will put an end to this tyranny soon.

FD.
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@michaeldavid ·
$0.09
We should talk.
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@firedream ·
Sure...I will be available on discord after 10:00 UTC . Daytime job:( 
FD.
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@mojorisin ·
$0.32
I really don’t get how it can police steemit. I didn’t know I wasn’t allowed to use bits that were older than 3.5 days, which begs the question: why the fuck do they allow them? Basically @grumpycat is just stealing money from people. How can this be possible in a “decentralised” network?
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@firedream ·
$0.12
It will not police steemit but it will fight against a bully. It may be a mistake but people will learn from it and find other methods to resist bullies.
FD.
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@mojorisin ·
$0.24
"fight against a bully", how? I didn't know I wasn't allowed to use bots that allow posts older than 3.5 days. Where was my warning? I didn't get one. It's fucking wrong. Anyway, if those bots aren't allowed to be used, why do steemit allow them to be used?
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@r0nd0n ·
$28.42
One problem; @grumpycat can flag after the 6.5 day mark, and you can't upvote after that. The only way to get around this (that I've found) is to upvote a newer post instead. 

Also, @danielsaori wrote an awesome <a href="https://github.com/E-D-A/steem-counterflag/blob/master/vote.py">counter vote script</a> that counts flag/s  value and neutralizes up to the exact reward with an upvote. This may be a good piece of the puzzle to get you started.
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@drakos · (edited)
$2.49
Pointless.
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@grumpycat ·
$92.84
Dear wannabe witness, please explain to us how bidbots implementing a 3.5 day limit allows @grumpycat to do anything more after 6.5 days.
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@grumpycat ·
https://phist.steemdata.com/history?identifier=https%3A%2F%2Fsteemit.com%2Flife%2F%40firedream%2Fresist%23%40drakos%2Fre-r0nd0n-re-firedream-resist-20180203t214734793z

You're a phony.
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@grumpycat ·
$2.05
I originally though I'd have to do it at 6.5 days but most bidbots owners gives no shit about abuse or protecting their legit customers.

It's money grab all the way down.
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@limabeing ·
SO THEN WHY ARE YOU TAKING IT OUT ON THE USERS!?!?! all it does is make us pissed at YOU and legitimately so. Its hard enough convincing people to come to steemit. Why are you making it a bad experience for new users? You downvoted and pissed on a post by an amazing artist and photographer who wrote about *suicide* ??? She is just trying to make a living off of her art like everyone else. Meanwhile on that post, you upvote your own comment to 3 times the value which.. btw.. you post the exact same thing over and over again. HAVE YOU HEARD OF SPAM? its when people post the same bullshit over and over. We have heard you. We get it. You dont have to destroy peoples hard work to get your point across. AND GUESS WHAT? wit the amount of money that you have, you literally could be giving people an alternative to using bots. You could be upvoting them and you would not only get *more support* people would not see you as the bad guy. 

You may have more money and power than us but we will find a way to stop you, eventually. And since you have done this to multiple female noobs that posted quality content I WILL BE DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO STOP YOU.
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@limabeing ·
https://steemit.com/life/@zipporah/choosing-life 

I have no idea how that works can you help her??? it was up to 20 i think.... it deserves way more and i wish i had seen it before he pissed on it.
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@r351574nc3 · (edited)
$0.09
Hi all! Sorry for being too late to the party. I think I have an alternative. Of course, @firedream, I'd be willing to work on any project you need.

Let me first push out a proposal though https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@r351574nc3/proposal-subscription-model-for-steem-services

This is basically a proposal to reform bots altogether. I want to do subscription-based bots (not just voting) for users. Users can subscribe to services that bots provide through SP delegation. Services are retained as long as delegation is continued.

I recommend this as a solution because it's possible to deploy a voting bot to this platform that uses delegated SP from subscribers to give them benefit. It doesn't take your SBD/STEEM and only grows through curation SP; therefore, the more it curates, the more it grows. Thus, you would be cultivating something to eventually combat the demon cat.
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@firedream ·
I read your proposal, it is a revolutionary idea in total but I am afraid you can not use it for resisting @grumpycat. People will delegate their SP to you for a benefit and if you start fighting with it, this means you will be spending peoples SP delegations most probably in a fight that they don't want to get involved.
A quicker way should be what @contentjunkie proposed, create a void account, request people to delegate SP to it and fight with it but again this will depend on peoples trust.
Right now we see people who opposes and who wants to resist.
If my way fails, I am sure that someone will come with an alternative method that works, from the lessons derived.
FD.
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@r351574nc3 ·
I get you, that may be so. It sounds like more of a home for where @contentjunkie's solution would live.
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@r351574nc3 ·
@firedream is this still a thing?
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@firedream ·
$2.20
Yes @r351574nc3 , I have opened an application at steem-connect called @we-resist and introduced a friend who is expert in react to steemit.
Right now we are working on the bot. 
I hope until end of this week we will be able to finish the bot. Unfortunately we are going slow :(
Nobody volunteered for building this bot so it takes time.

But soon it will be ready and I will announce it.

FD.
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@r351574nc3 ·
$2.28
LOL. I volunteered
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@r351574nc3 ·
PR https://github.com/r351574nc3/we-resist-bot/pull/1
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@r351574nc3 ·
$0.13
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@realmsofcrypto ·
We must become united on this issue because this is clearly someone trying to play dictator here on Steemit. If he would leave a comment stating the points he did with out downvoting and instead stuck to down voting actual scam content I could understand. But in his little war with sneakyninja he doesn't actually hurt them are take away any business. All grumpy cat does is piss off normal people who are trying to get by. Keep us informed as I would gladly contribute to such an endeavor as you describe.
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@smidge-tv ·
$0.33
I am in , @grumpycat is a crook .
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@firedream ·
Thank you for your support.
FD.
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@firedream ·
![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmfJxHKDwrkxPNj3pAeBKKNziAka5QVQpT5TkbSx54Dg4p/image.png)

We started resisting and you are invited!
Check this link,spread the word and join us if you would agree.

https://steemit.com/we-resist/@firedream/resistance-started

Discord : https://discord.gg/qMWCbWR

FD
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@spacebeard ·
Yeah, Fuckk all the wanna be information states around here cheetah and steem cleaners should be dealt with aswell.
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@steemitboard ·
$0.09
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@themobilewriter ·
That's a lot of SP that is required. I don't think it is that easy to resist this guy. I think it will be better for us if steemit staff helps us out here.
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@firedream ·
They simply don't.
* They want steemit to self-regulate (and this is self regulation)
* They don't want to involve in this fight because they will also be target

FD.
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@tspink ·
I feel like it'll go pretty much something like this except I'll be the lil girl. 
![giphy.gif](https://steemitimages.com/DQmRsdAD3eYGibs3PY93P72tzVPR9TVnXDEUrx1o9vEA2vX/giphy.gif)
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@grumpycat ·
$96.98
Not far from the truth.
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