I was thinking this morning... Why are big-tech companies pushing hard on building bigger and bigger clusters for AI models? I mean, I know it's a race, and even half a year could make a difference (and the way Grok 3 jumped at the top of the models after being trained on a bigger cluster than the competition says they are right in doing so), but... at what stage is quantum computing now?... was my inner thinking. Is it worth it to build huge datacenters now using potentially soon-to-be obsolete technology, or wait for stable quantum processors? So... I started doing a bit of research on the subject. First of all, as I suspected, quantum computing would really speed up the training phase of AI models, by parallelizing the process. It wouldn't have a big impact on inference, except on very specific tasks, particularly related to cryptography, but not only. ## When Useful Quantum Computer? I remembered Google is focusing intensely on its quantum processor, and trying to reduce errors associated with this new technology, and the fact that a qubit's value is not discrete (either 0 or 1), but rather anything in the range between 0 and 1. So, I wanted to see if other top AI companies focus on quantum computing too. And they do. We also have Microsoft and Nvidia working on that. Meta, surprisingly, decided it's too far away, and ignores it. Maybe they got burned with the metaverse and don't want to be too early in something else. They are not the only ones interested in quantum computing in the US. We also have IBM, Amazon, and Intel at this party. https://img.inleo.io/DQmUfp6fWRF8KnhwhC987fH7vF2CV5QsNV6AEsTokTXKjgx/image.png *Not the best image Ideogram generated for me.* Both Meta and Nvidia say it's decades away until quantum computing could have useful applications. Jensen Huang, the CEO of Nvidia, said at the beginning of the year at the [Consumer Electronics Show](https://qz.com/ces-2025-ai-tech-invasion-1851731351) in Las Vegas: > If you said 15 years for very useful quantum computers, that would probably be on the early side, If you said 30, itβs probably on the late side. But if you picked 20, I think a whole bunch of us would believe it. Only a month and a half later, from an [article](https://www.geekwire.com/2025/microsoft-quantum-breakthrough-promises-to-usher-in-the-next-era-of-computing-in-years-not-decades/) in GeekWire we find that the CEO of Microsoft, Satya Nadella, comes to contradict everyone who thinks it would take decades for quantum computing to be useful. In his words: > We believe this breakthrough will allow us to create a truly meaningful quantum computer not in decades, as some have predicted, but in years. What Microsoft did compared to competition was to focus on developing new quantum technologies instead of trying to stabilize (reduce errors) for existing quantum chips. This is interesting to say the least... Years is not decades. Of course, even if a useful QC is reached within years, it won't scale rapidly. Quantum computing is as bigger of a race as AI, but probably not as much hyped up, since regular people can't use it. But let's take a quick look... ## China versus Europe versus the United States on Quantum Computing Surprisingly... Europe is still in this race, unlike in the AI one, where we just woke up. Europe is competitive on research in this field but is lacking in deployment of applications. China dominates quantum communications, including two quantum satellites. Quantum communications allow unbreakable encrypted messages even using quantum computers, without alerting the original sender and receiver. The US has a lead on quantum computers and recently started to take interest into quantum communications. There is also quantum sensing, for better measuring devices, where Germany seems to have a lead, with the US and China at about the same level. For a lot more information on how things stand and how they are likely to evolve, you could dive into [this report](https://merics.org/en/report/chinas-long-view-quantum-tech-has-us-and-eu-playing-catch). Posted Using [INLEO](https://inleo.io/@gadrian/quantum-computing-decades-or-years-away-and-what-that-means-for-ai-fvs)
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If I'm not wrong I heard quantum computers could lead to self aware Ai, a real form of intelligence... The first getting it would be dominating then
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That very well could be the case. We might have self-aware AI sooner, if QC doesn't come out soon enough to make an impact.
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I think that US would have edge on this one over the others
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Hmm, it depends. On quantum communications, the Chinese are well ahead of everyone else and will be the first to use it at large scale. Likely, a US company will be the first to have a useful quantum computer.
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I think the race is there, but quantum computing has been talked about for a while. I think it's more likely to be decades away. Even if it does happen in the next few years, I don't think it will be impactful enough to affect things too much.
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I don't know what to say... I guess it depends on how they approach things. Once Microsoft looked at this from a fresh perspective they've got some surprising results. As for impact in a few years, I think you are right, it will likely be limited, since we will have only a few such machines capable of quantum computing.
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I think it's profitable, or at least it has to potential to rake in millions. The first country to be smartest at the tech definitely gets the lion share of the money
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I'm not sure they are fighting about money as much as about power and control. Sure, it will be profitable at one point, likely very profitable, but they are fighting to dominate the world.
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Control money and tech, control the power. I feel they go hand in hand.
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Europe may have a chance to get closer to US
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I don't know what to say... We need quantum applications, otherwise both the US and China will leap forward.
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To me, Quantum computing feels like one of those things thatβll either change everything or just be another overhyped tech that takes forever to be finally useful to the world. But Either way, we're already seeing the AI companies just stacking GPUs like crazy so my bet is on it coming faster
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Current technology for GPUs or CPUs won't have any effect on bringing Quantum sooner or later. It's an entirely different architecture, incompatible with existing processors (or rather, existing processors are incompatible with the quantum processors). But you are right to feel that way. It has been talked about for a while and "the public" can't see any results yet.
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oh I get it now... So that might mean they'll need to invent something entirely different that'll be compatible
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Quantum computing might be the next big thing in the world
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There are a number of edge domains that potentiate each other. Quantum computing is one of them.
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i think there is definitely a soft-war going on with countries racing to have the strongest quantum AI. do quantum computers and Consciousness itself have some kind of relationship? or is it just a really fast machine. what would it look like to hook an AI up with quantum hardware?
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Basically, quantum computers (will) have a completely different processor architecture. They will be much faster (which will help them break standard encryption models used today, for example), but QC are built to better model naturally occurring phenomenons, which are generally not based on switches like on and off. Today's computers interpret these phenomenons at the software level not at the hardware level, like quantum computers will have a much better support for. Regarding AI, QC, and consciousness, it's hard to say. It all depends on how we define consciousness, because there are many such definitions, and probably according to some of them, no non-human will be able to reach it. I don't have the same strict interpretation, so yeah, I think at some point AI would achieve consciousness. Could be only a few years away... > what would it look like to hook an AI up with quantum hardware? I imagine at some point it would be as easy to use quantum hardware as it is now to use normal computers. But not in the near future, for the regular people, I imagine. As for AI giants, I presume they will train their models on QC as soon as the technology is available and stable.
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