<div class="text-justify"> <center>![20220515_124203.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/galenkp/EoEqzk6q5bjnkFL3sJHQT7xsgrv2fFXaqAwBQs9bEkGKN9fXes8XKYQNqmuFXTPp3R7.jpg)</center> <center>*The noblest pleasure is the joy of understanding.*</center> <center>**- Leonardo da Vinci -**</center> *** *** Watching movies with me is usually enjoyable but when the movie has guns or military stuff in it...maybe not so much. You see, I understand guns and military things and it's abundantly clear that those who make movies [usually] do not. There's exceptions of course, some really excellent and realistic movies that depict the aspects I mention above accurately, but they are few and far between. So, I sit there watching and say things like: *"That wouldn't happen."* *"Umm...nope, not even close to how it is."* *"Who even says that?"* *"Where's the recoil?"* *"Seriously, you only had three bullets in a gun that holds 19?"* *"You have 37 bullets in a handgun that only holds 17?"* I think you get the idea. It can be frustrating watching movies that just don't get it right, and probably frustrating for the person sitting there with me having to listen to my scoffing, derision, laughter and scorn dished out to those nutbags on the screen and the nutbags who made the movie and didn't get it right. One of my pet hates I didn't mention above and is the focus of this post today...The misuse of the term *clip.* I'm sure you've heard someone in a movie or TV show say, *I've only got one clip left, throw me another!* His mate throws over a *magazine* and the scene keeps going. Dick heads. Below you can see what is generally referred to as a clip and a magazine. The clip is the thing that holds the row of .303 rifle rounds and the magazine is the *container* [for lack of a better word] that holds the rounds inside it. The magazine is inserted into the rifle and stays there and the clip is used to load the rounds into the rifle and is then discarded. <center>![20220515_123809-COLLAGE.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/galenkp/AJmsgTeZkgq26ixBbBfsTn1eFEEQJ7vT3SK6i6iD1fXogjmrnoxRPzuTjQuUYa3.jpg)</center> The video below is me demonstrating the use of each with the first showing me loading rounds into both the clip and the magazine and the second showing how the clip is used when operating the rifle. Not all rifles have a clip-feed method of loading and not all rifles or handguns have removable magazines. To keep this post short, and digestible, I've not gotten technical but these two videos clearly demonstrate the difference between a clip and a magazine. <center>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juhzx7fc4jg</center> You will note in the video above that the clip and magazine hold the rounds differently. The clip is designed simply to hold the rounds and make it easy and fast to load them into the rifle when needed as they slide right in. Some pressure is required, but it's generally quite easy. You'll note the five round capacity on this particular clip also. The magazine has a ten round capacity and is fitted up into the rifle so, with each shot and cycle of the bolt, a spent case is ejected and a new round pushed up and into the chamber. Magazines are reusable, as are clips, although due to the small nature of clips they are often lost. Also, in combat one doesn't go around dropping expended magazines then collecting them, nor does one care too much about what happens when the clip is emptied as it is a very cheap, mass-produced item...And when being shot at there's other things to worry about. Generally clips are not used these days. One would typically have multiple magazines, all loaded, and swap them out as required. Having said that, I know people who still use clips when hunting as it's a legitimate method of storing rounds in a convenient way and loading quickly. <center>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRWhsuGcY_s</center> As you can see in the video I made above both are reasonably easy items to use and just about as fast as each other to operate. Of course, the clip in this video only loads five rounds to the magazine's ten. Please also keep in mind this is a rifle from the First World War, [decommissioned in 1918] and is not in use in modern militaries today. There's better systems now, although you can see the effectiveness of this magazine or clip system pretty clearly I guess. Anyway, that's about it...The basic differences between a clip and a magazine. I've purposely not gotten too technical in this post as there's little need to do so, it's not a training document, but now you should know enough about clips and magazines to sit and watch movies and TV shows and call them out for their nutbaggery when they get it wrong! That's about it. if you have any questions or comments please feel free to ask in the comments section below. </div> *** Design and create your ideal life, don't live it by default - *Tomorrow isn't promised so be humble and kind* <sub><sub>Any images of videos in this post are my own</sub></sub>
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This I didn't know so I'm glad that I read this and watched the videos. Makes a lot of sense. Hahaha I would love to hear your commentary on movies. Over 40 bullets in a mag? Ummm I know very little about guns but even I know that's BS.
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Yeah, people think they gain knowledge and wisdom from the movies and in truth, *not.* There's some magazines that may carry many rounds, but not one's a cop would have as an issued sidearm. You know? As for my side-commentary during movies...It's bloody annoying for others, I'm sure. And to add to my nutbaggery, *I hate people talking when I'm watching a movie.* Other people than myself I mean. I really am a fucken knucklehead huh? ð (In my defence, I don't do it at the cinema. It's a home thing. Usually. I've been known to utter a snort of derision in a movie theatre. I most often get punched for it though.)
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The only movies I think are worthy of using for teaching this kind of stuff are documentaries and even they are sometimes inaccurate. That must be funny to watch. One sided maybe but funny nonetheless. We're all a bit knuckledeaded in different ways. I used to talk a LOT during movies but now LL does that to me and it drives me freaking nuts. I think it's some form of payback for anyone I annoyed by talking while I was younger ð Beautiful bolt action you got there ð
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You need to have a look at the YouTube channel C&Rsenal great resource for WW1 small arms they have some great history on the long Lees and the SMLE as well as just about small arms from every country involved in the Great War
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I've seen it once or twice, they have showcased some interesting firearms. I have a library full of books though and prefer books to watching videos. I've studied war history from the age of ten. I'm not as much into reading about guns as I am about owning and operating them and tend only to delve deeply into those I either own or have had to operate from time to time. That's not to say I don't research them though. Thanks for commenting.
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I discovered it during lockdown in the Philippines. Iâve found it fascinating. Owning guns in the UK is a little difficult.
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5 years this has been happening to me, it started here, around people that are still here. Homeland security has done nothing at all, they are not here to protect us. Dont we pay them to stop shit like this? The NSA, CIA, FBI, Police and our Government has done nothing. Just like they did with the Havana Syndrome, nothing. Patriot Act my ass. The American government is completely incompetent. The NSA should be taken over by the military and contained Immediately for investigation. I bet we can get to the sources of V2K and RNM then. https://peakd.com/gangstalking/@acousticpulses/electronic-terrorism-and-gaslighting--if-you-downvote-this-post-you-are-part-of-the-problem
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Have you served in the military before? I have zero knowledge about guns even to I play games and I would hesitate to choose a gun with lots of rounds so that I don't shoot while reloading. I guess movie producers should try to be more technical, it would be great having someone like you on a set that has to do with guns.
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Most people have no idea about guns, those that play computer games included. All movie sets have armorers and advisers to ensure accuracy, but for some reason still get it wrong. Like, in a gun fight there never seems to be any reloading and yet they just keep shooting. I once counted over forty shots without a reload from a handgun that holds 17 with a standard magazine which is what it had in it. Weirdos. Thanks for your comments.
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Lolz, lots of movies today are very far from reality.
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You know movies always use creative license for whatever they portray. Plenty of things are laughable and unbelievable even if you are not an expert on anything. I can see why you notice though. "That wouldn't happen." "Umm...nope, not even close to how it is." "Who even says that?" "Where's the recoil?" "Seriously, you only had three bullets in a gun that holds 19?" "You have 37 bullets in a handgun that only holds 17?" THAT made me laugh ! When you said you were going to do a video demonstration, I thought Oh ! Now we'll hear what the G-dog sounds like.... but no. It was still a clearly understandable demonstration.
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Yeah, movies would be rather boring if they stayed too close to reality. War movies would consist of a lot of lifting and moving things, sleeping wherever and whenever they can, bad food, gearing up for ops then standing down at the last minute and officers with no clue. I'm glad you got a laugh from my movie dialogues. The even funnier thing is that *I'm not even joking*. I say those things and more. > I thought Oh ! Now we'll hear what the G-dog sounds like I was thinking of doing a book reading on video Jace, it's still on the cards. I wrote a book called, *Days of the week* and was thinking of reading some for a Hive post. What do you think? Should I?<div class="pull-right"><a href="/@hive.engage">![](https://i.imgur.com/XsrNmcl.png)</a></div>
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Of course you should ! It may be a hit ! You'll never know till you try it....right ?
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in short: clips *hold* ammunition. Magazines *feed* ammuntion. Clips may be used to fill a magazine directly (*en bloc*) serving as the magazine feed lips until empty, or they may indirectly feed magazines (stripper clips) before being discarded. Moon clips are a special case for rimless cartridges in revolvers. I have one half-moon clip in .45 ACP somewhere.
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If only I said this...It would have saved me 800 words. ð I find watching stripper clip videos strangely soothing...although, not quite as soothing as emptying the rounds at the range or in the field.
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[I found my old post on the topic!](https://peakd.com/hive-139358/@jacobtothe/clup-mag-words-mean-things) It includes a pic of the moon clip. And you replied to it!
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**Good Stuff Bro.!!** > <sub> ***"The video below is me demonstrating the use of each..."*** </sub> Dammit Man. I was all excited to hear your voice narrating. # ***"Crickets.!!"*** <sub> ***W.T.F f f f f f f u c k Man...*** </sub> Give the people want they want I say.!! I just want to hear that soft sexy Aussie voice thundering out a few expletives... Heheheh Carry on while I sit here all dissapointed and butt hurt. But it was a really good post. As usual. Again, Thanks for reading my waaa waaa bitchin' cryin' pissin ass moanin' comment ![untitled.gif](https://media.tenor.com/images/922525bf659eeeb0070e76bbe5783552/tenor.gif)
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Lol, you're not the only one who has said this. I'm working on something that may satisfy the masses. Maybe next week ok?
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Deal... Impatiently waiting... LoL ![untitled.gif](https://media.tenor.com/images/09fe490ee33a23e138d2340c20fceeaa/tenor.gif)
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Mmmm...the random things I learn on a Sunday, and the beauty of Hive. You never know what's going to come up in your feed. Interesting to know, even though I think (hope) I won't ever need to put in practical use
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I understand, it's not something most firearms users would ever use either, only the one's with particular firearms, like me. It's interesting though right? That rifle helped win World War One. It's kind of cool for me to have it, as a massive history guy. Thank you for commenting on this post despite it probably not being your thing...And yes, I agree with your comment on Hive.<div class="pull-right"><a href="/@hive.engage">![](https://i.imgur.com/XsrNmcl.png)</a></div>
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it never hurts to learn about more random stuff, you never know when it's going to come in handy at the pub quiz! The historical side of the gun is really interesting and the fact you own one is even more amazing. I'm sure my 10 old great nephew would be fascinated about it, he's a massive history buff and loves anything to do with the wars. His mum said he could answer the history exam papers set for the 16 year olds.
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This is fab - I love it when I learn something new! I've also learnt never to talk if we're watching a movie ðĪĢðĪĢ Thanks for sharing, @galenkp
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Haha, yeah I was pretty clear about there being only one person who can make ridiculous comments when I'm watching movies huh? In truth I'm not that inflexible, it just added a fun element to my post I guess. ðĪŠ
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Glad to know I won't be banned if I do mutter the odd word, lol! ![untitled.gif](https://media.tenor.com/images/32cd6d30115b98067f15e46d9345a350/tenor.gif)
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I think video games do a better job with guns compared to movies. ð
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Possibly, but even then it provides no practical understanding. The only way to gain that is with specific research and training, then practical experience. In recruit school (these days) they do some of the training on rifles in an indoor range, using computers to determine accuracy, but that alone can never provide enough understanding to prepare one for actual operation body a firearm.
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In real life the experience is on a different level, no second chances, no room for mistakes. But when it comes to video games, mostly the first person shooter genre, they at least do their research and try their best to be accurate. Whether it be the sound of a certain gun, its ammo capacity or fire-rate, most of it surely seems fairly accurate when I compare it all to an actual real life demonstrations on YouTube.
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It ain't rocket science is it ð. The term Magazine was used for any item or even place that *stored* ammunition or explosives. In my hometown of Leicester there's a building which still stands that though originally built as a gateway was used to serve that very purpose during the english civil war and stored munitions and is known as The Magazine and the pub nearby that was our local for many years was called...yup you guessed it The Magazine. Sadly been pulled down now but was a great boozer
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I think most just don't understand the term and how it applies from a firearms or military perspective, especially the fact, as you say, that a *building can indeed be a magazine.* It's not a new term, it's been around for a long time. I guess most are just clueless through ignorance or choice. The clip/magazine thing comes from the movies though, and is sheer nutbaggery.
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nutbaggery nice one, I can add that to my verbal arsenal ( see what I did there) and interchange that for bellendery.
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One major grey area is my M1 Garand, it uses clips inserted into the rifle directly. The M14 is basically an M1 with a box magazine added. Both are fine weapons, and when used by a trained operator; can sling comparable amounts of lead downrange. They are both excellent battle rifles, and we should have kept the M14 over the M16. ððĪ ðĪðĄðģ
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The M1 is a splendid example of a firearm done right. I've not had a lot of experience with them but those experiences I've had have been enjoyable. They have proven their worth time and again.<div class="pull-right"><a href="/@hive.engage">![](https://i.imgur.com/XsrNmcl.png)</a></div>
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I'll have one of each ready, when you come to visit, ROFLOL! The finest battle rifle ever on the M1, time on target is extreme. It bumps, and drops right back on target for a fast second shot! It is also perfect for use with a bayonet, providing 4 attack options with one move. I kind of discounted the M1 before I got one. She really convinced me.... ððððĪ ð
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Y'know, I knew the difference between a clip and a magazine, but I've never actually seen a clip used to load the magazine before. Being that I do not own a gun of any sort (bows are different - I have several), I get all my gun knowledge from TV and movies, just as you suggest. ð Seriously, that was interesting to watch.
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Most will never see it, or get to operate it as I do, so that's why I did the video. I hope it was clearly shown. I like to represent firearms and shooting well so am happy to explain concepts like this in, hopefully, easy ways and language. Skills with a bow are every bit as valuable as those I have Victor, but you know that. Thanks for commenting.
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>"You have 37 bullets in a handgun that only holds 17?" Ha! Now that's just Dumb lazy writing there XD Not gonna lie to ya Galen... You're a low-key badass :-) Respect. Now, I really don't know much about guns or military but after reading this very enlightening post, I think I've gotten a little insight into the ACTUAL functions of a Clip and Magazine. <sub>Oh, and Jacob's comment was also a breath of fresh air with its summary ð</sub> Oh great! Now I WANT to watch a military movie with ya just to see your reaction. Ha! Maybe we could watch **The Green Berets**, I heard it was pretty inaccurate :)
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> Not gonna lie to ya Galen... You're a low-key badass I'll own this description of me. > Oh, and Jacob's comment was also a breath of fresh air with its summary @jacobtothe is an intelligent man, I'm a blunt instrument...So yes, his summary was good. Maybe I should get him to write all my posts. > Now I WANT to watch a military movie with ya Trust me, it's annoying. I love that movie, *The Green Berets* but yes, it's not very true to life. It's always worth a look though. I like *The Guns of Navarone* also, and *The Big Red One.* Classics. Of course, the modern ones are awesome. I just watched *Hacksaw Ridge* again last weekend. If you have not seen it, do yourself a favour.<div class="pull-right"><a href="/@hive.engage">![](https://i.imgur.com/XsrNmcl.png)</a></div>
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How well would you survive the US western and WW2 TV shows of the 1960s?
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Oh, please do. Ouuu... Jacob seems like a visionary. However, no one could write quite like ya. Jacob would be missing that good old G-dog touch. <sub>Oh, and from a scale of **1** to **Rusted**, just how blucny would you say you are? :-)</sub> LoL, I don't know why I instinctively thought of serial killer Ted Bundy when I read **Hacksaw ridge**ð. But hell yeah, I just watched the trailer so i'm defs gonna watch it this weekend. Thanks for the recommendation.
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