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An equal playing field
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<center>*All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.*</center>

<center>**- George Orwell -**</center>
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I ran into someone I've not seen for a long while, a sporting personality who represented Australia at the Olympics. We were friends for many years but her sporting commitments took her away from where we grew up and I *dig it* - she's been very successful and deserves every bit of it. I introduced her to my girl who was with me and we decided to sit down for a coffee and chat for the hour or so she had to spare. We caught up on the old times then conversation turned to sport and *equality in sport* came up.

> I won't go into the conversation itself but it made me think about the subject later on and how *'equality in sport'* doesn't seem that equal at all. 

I'm not making a political statement and am *all for equality between the two sexes*, however, *and I could be wrong here,* it seems to be something done when convenient, maybe to meet an agenda, rather than being adopted in a wholesale manner. 

Why is there mens and ladies sports categories, tennis for instance. Shouldn't it just be *tennis?* Shouldn't, for the sake of equality between the sexes, everyone compete in the same competition and the best men or women advance through the contest to the finals? Furthermore, in this years' Australian Open the men and women get paid the same in prize money...but the men have to play best of five sets where the women play best of only three. That doesn't sound equal to me, and it's the same in most sports, there's two categories for men and women respectively.

But what about the workplace? Equality in the workplace doesn't sound bonkers right? Isn't equal pay for everyone regardless of sex the expectation? I think so, and I agree with it! They're removing *'mens and ladies toilets'* and moving to 'unisex' for the purpose of inclusion and equality, yes? Equality in action and so be it. But on the sporting field? Nope.

Do women get special seats on the bus? Do men? Nope; there's just seats. Do men get a discount at the shop? Nope, and neither do women. Do men get served better food than women at the restaurant? Fuck no! So, why are men and women segregated in sport as if one is purported to be different, better or worse maybe, than the other when in fact *they are equal.* 

> A conundrum. 

Imagine the gloriousness, the amazing world it would be, should men and women actually be treated as equal in the workplace and society in general. Wouldn't that be amazing? Equal pay and equal opportunity for all. I wish it would happen this instant and I think many would agree. Of course, it would then have to extend to the sporting field...wouldn't it?

I can see it now...men and women (or women and men for the sake of being equal) all arriving at the swimming trials to try out for the national Olympic team. The fastest of them go through to represent the country in swimming...not *men's swimming, or women's swimming...just swimming.* Glorious equality right there folks! May the best woman or man make it through.

I don't mind watching the NFL (American Football) now and then - I used to play myself for ten years - and would love to see equality on the gridiron also; women competing for a place on the team against the men and the best from either group winning the contract to play and then battling it out together on an equal playing field. A splendid display of equality...but we can't see that because some asshole who pretends to like equality between the sexes segregates women and men and forces them to compete separately. 

> I wonder if this would ever happen, true equality, or if it's just some bullshit fucken term people use for the purpose of political correctness.

The military permits men and women to do the same job you know, both sexes are equally good at killing and dying; examples are the Israeli Defense Force (IDF), the Australian Defense Force (ADF), German Defense Forces (Bundeswehr), New Zealand Defense Force (NZDF), United States Armed Forces and even the Norwegian Armed Forces permit women in combat roles...other countries also, and all of those combat roles have to be won by those wanting them, they're not given...but that equality doesn't quite reach the sporting field where women and men are still segregated. Will sport ever be equal between the sexes? Should it be?
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What are your thoughts on the matter? 

Are you happy to see equality between men and women in society and the workplace but have that *"equality"* become *"segregation"* when it comes to the sporting field? Is that the right way to go? What do you feel sports would look like (and play like) if teams were made up of the best and most suited people, (male or female), from a pool of men and women all competing for the same positions on the field or court? Are you pro-equality between the sexes or against it? Do you even care?

Feel free to comment below if you'd like, I'm interested to know your thoughts.

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@avdesing ·
Well .... I have my own opinion on this, I believe that men and women deserve equal opportunities, as well as equal pay and other things. 

But in essence we are not so equal, there are many things that differentiate us. So this is a complicated issue.

It is true that we deserve equal rights and equal treatment, but in certain circumstances we are different, for example, although it is not in all cases, there is not the same physical strength. 

Of course there are always exceptions to the rule.

Today, differences continue to be made where there are none, and where there could be differences.... then the other way round. Men and women have a different structure and what is real is that we complement each other, that is what is really important.
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@galenkp ·
I'm glad women and men are different...I like women, they are lovely. 😉
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@avdesing ·
I think exactly the same, thank goodness we are different, men are great! hahaha
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@bozz ·
To be fair they do have a lingerie football league. 😃Not that I would want to see the guy players in similar uniforms. Title IX is a big deal where I work and it makes you think really intensely about the things you plan to do and hope to achieve.
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@galenkp ·
Yeah, I've seen it...fucken nutbaggery at its finest. Saw it once, for about ten minutes and have never watched again. 
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@bozz ·
I don't know as though I have ever watched a game.  It shows up in online advertisements every now and then though.
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@coloneljethro · (edited)
Personally, I'd like to get rid of the concept/framework of gender.  We all have genitalia, what form it takes and what we do with it in private is nobody's business but our own.  People have attributed so much nonsense to gender over the centuries that I can't help but suspect it was invented as a means to divide and control us.

Here there's been considerable uproar over trans people competing in sports as their preferred gender, can't help but think it's a good argument for ending the segregation of sports.

The segregation in sport and the things you mentioned like best of 3 vs best of 5, who do you think is responsible for that?  To me it reeks of the paternalistic attitudes that were the norm 50-100 years ago and I can't help but think that it is ultimately some guy's bright idea.  The women I've played sports with have never had any issue with doing exactly the same as the guys.

You bringing up tennis gave me a chuckle, I played tennis for many years and for reasons that were never made clear to me, we called mixed doubles "Australian doubles".
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@galenkp ·
I don't have any problem with equality between the two sexes, none at all; and am in fact all for it...it's applied in curious ways though, selectively sometimes, and that doesn't seem right. I'm all about the *right person for the job, or position on the field*. I'm against filling quotas to satisfy gender balances...just put the right person there. Simple stuff really. 

Australian doubles huh? I've not heard that term for a while. Doesn't it have something to do with the positioning of one's partner on the court? I'm not really sure to be honest. 
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@coloneljethro · (edited)
I didn't think you did (not sure if it came across like I did), but if we were to somehow achieve true equality, what further need would we have of distinctions between the two?  Perhaps semantics is to blame for the curious ways and selectivity, we speak of equality but the programs and whatnot here (and I presume there) are more aimed at creating equity, which is a related but slightly different critter.  A few years back I met a lady who back in the 50s was one of the first women here to graduate with an accounting degree.  She couldn't get hired as an accountant at the time because "women couldn't do that."  You and I are results oriented and couldn't care less for that nonsense but everything I've seen leads me to believe that we are still far from the majority in that regard.  Introducing bureaucracy ultimately ruins any good something might have been intended to achieve, but how do you address entrenched attitudes and practices that aren't equal or fair?

It does (I had to look it up) but we didn't even understand that much about it I don't think 🤣
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@dbooster ·
Women not only are suppose to get priority seating here on trains, but they actually have their own "women-only" cars. 

It is understandable, considering that rates of women being molested on the crowded trains is super high. It's not equal, but I don't know how many men would agree to be daily molested to bring up the equality. ;) 
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@galenkp ·
Well, the take away from this comment is that something needs to be done about those fucken asshole men who think it's ok to molest women. Bring back public flogging and hanging, that might stem the flow. 
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@dbooster ·
Hear hear! Bringing back ridicule in the public square might be more effective. Or combine that with flogging. 

But given the problems with actually catching the creep that does it in a train as crowded as a can of sardines and in a country where the police force looks the other way whenever a crime of molestation is mentioned, a women-only car does seem like a good compromise. 

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@enraizar ·
Hi Galen, I think that in sport, taking into account the physical differences between men and women, having men and women compete together can only have one result: to make women invisible, and, I'm afraid, to give "arguments" about the "superiority" or "inferiority" of one sex over the other. Perhaps in another world and with another humanity this would be different, but in this world and with this humanity I think this would be the result. A hug
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@galenkp ·
Quite clearly there's differences between the two, and for good reason I suppose. The issues comes when people try to overlay their agendas and make humans fit it for whatever gain they see in it. Equal pay is one thing, but as I said in another comment, I'm not interested seeing a person in a job simply because that person is one or the other...the right people should be chosen in the first place, not based on gender at all. 
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@enraizar ·
I think we are in agreement. Going back to sport, it is only fair that men and women should earn money according to their ability to generate it, regardless of their gender. 
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@mattclarke ·
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My default is always, 'Let the property owner decide'. So the Olympic committee should set the rules/terms, and those who want to participate on those terms, can do so. 
If they do a bad job, alternate competitions/codes will spring up to pick up those competitors/viewers/advertisers.
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@galenkp ·
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Yeah, that'd work I guess, those who want to compete comply or bugger off. 
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@outwars ·
> Do women get special seats on the bus?

Pregnant women do. And before anyone roasts me, I'm kidding. I know the reason for the special seats and I fully support it.

I don't know if you were being serious, but the answer to the sports separation is simple. Testosterone and muscle mass. I am not an expert in this, but this is the basic info I've gathered from school and through reading about these things. During adolescence and while growing up, boys have more testosterone in their body. This does a lot of things to their development, but one of them is in the physical development of the body. As men grow older they have more muscle mass in their body, and women tend to have more fat [this is by design since they need the fat for child birth and protection of the child].

So in sports, unfortunately, men tend to perform better in those that require more strength. The muscle mass difference makes them hit harder in tennis, jump higher in basketball, run faster, swim faster, etc. I am not trying to insult women. I think if you ask any athlete, they will tell you something similar or along these lines. There have been cases where women competed against men and it wasn't close. The Williams sisters [Serena and Venus] played against Karsten Braasch [then ranked 203 in mens tennis], and they both lost. The US Women's national soccer team lost to a U-15 boys team. You can also look at the times for the world records and men are usually faster. The separation is actually for the benefit of women.

In the military, while I do agree that they are both equally good at killing with guns, there are some issues in the older times. When ground troops were very important in battle, men tend to be sent out more because they can carry heavier things. Weapons, tools, supplies. When recovering bodies, men can carry more and faster, while women can encounter difficulty. If you've seen Black Hawk Down or similar movies. Some were carrying their comrades on their shoulders while shooting and running, it will be difficult for a 5'7 woman to carry a 6'6 man while shooting and running.
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@galenkp ·
So...you're saying there is no equality for physical reasons. 
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@outwars ·
![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/outwars/23tkhmQgkNGeAwgt9NrtjSiYPGYMBneXrJaxez1zNuQJzs3EyorXDMFt4wSUkSm1n4y3N.png)

I guess it is in how you want to define equality. If in the literal sense, then yes. There is no equality for physical reasons. If it is in equality of opportunities, then the current setup offers that kind of equality. Women are able to compete against others with similar capabilities. 


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> Image taken from https://www.diffen.com/difference/Equality-vs-Equity

If we push literal equality, the first image will most likely happen in sports. There will be very few games where women will come out on top or even qualify. While the second photo is for Equity in the article, I think they all have equal opportunity in watching[women competing in] the games after some adjustments are made [separate leagues]. The third one I think is when we get exoskeletons/metaverse where everyone can compete against one another equally haha.
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@ryivhnn ·
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I think with sports the theory is that guys are usually stronger than girls (I guess not everyone realises that anyone weaker than their opponent can get very devious) so the segregation is "only fair" (I guess with the assumption that a mere woman would never be able to compete with the best of the best men).

And of course people would have to actually see women as strong and capable rather than saying they do but still quietly regarding them as "the fair sex" that are superfragile and in need of protection.

And after all that on your actual topic I don't even follow sports (not even the one I coach), in theory I don't think I would mind in the slightest if they stopped segregating there but while I know some of the kids wouldn't mind (I know some boys that would love to do beam for whatever reason, poor dears haven't yet had the misfortune of splitting the beam I guess, and some girls would love to do rings and pbars), it would make my job about a million times harder (I find boys' gymnastics easy and girls' gymnastics terrifying).

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@galenkp · (edited)
Yeah, I think that's the way of it, but it's not really equality is it? I like equality, but I think it's being implemented in some strange ways, the unisex bathroom convention for instance...men's public bathrooms are hideous places, why any woman would want to share a public bathroom with a male is beyond me...still, have at it ladies, that's equality in action.

As for blokes doing the beam...nutbags for sure...one slip and they'll split their difference and little coconuts could go pinging out in any direction. I've crashed enough pushbikes to know it's hardly the best fun to have one's coconuts crushed, in fact it's no fun at all...so, I'll not be doing any balance beam activities, that's for sure, I'll leave it to the nutbags who...don't value their nutbags. 

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@ryivhnn ·
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Yeh men's bathrooms aren't the best XD

I can't even say most of the boys are kids too young/gung ho to know better...oh wait yes I can as the upper levels like to try each other's routines out XD

<sub>late teens to early twenties are still too young and gung ho to know better</sub>
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@saraleo ·
Greetings Galen!!!!🤗.... reading you and giving thanks that we are different . Men are so cute just the way they are.

For equality in law, opportunities and decisions... But not for unisex bathrooms 😂🤢
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@galenkp ·
Yeah I agree, the unisex bathrooms take it a bit too far and I don't see much gain for either gender. 
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@tahastories1 ·
Gender discrimination is running from the history of humans and in this polarized society where capitalist class controls the lower class. In short, class division is tightly linked with gender discrimination and it is rooted back in history. I am unable to answer the solution because nothing works well in this society as you have used line from animal farm *All animals are equal but some are more equal*. 
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@galenkp ·
I wonder what the situation is in your country; is inequality between the sexes very prevalent and are any steps being made to rectify or improve the situation?
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@tahastories1 ·
I think it's same everywhere. 

Interestingly, I was reading Frankenstein which is gothic fiction novel by Mary Shelley and I was reading it with the perspective of gender roles and portrayal of female. I found that women character is kind of missing and there are just names but characters are not specifically explaining themselves. 

We also have female players in every field but such hurdles are standing Infront of female. 
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