<div class="text-justify"> Not so long ago I caught up with a mate of mine for pizza and to tell some lies. He's a good chap, younger than me by almost ten years but a solid fellow, a good sort I mean. He has a good job, is responsible and would do just about anything for other people. He's someone I call *my bro* although we're not related at all and I can honestly say that I trust him - Not something I say lightly or often when it comes to people. My friend is a tough man, one of the most resilient I have known, but that night I saw him break down. It wasn't weakness of course, just the inability to cope with some of his past - I sat there silently whilst he had his moment then composed himself and we simply continued talking, telling ~~lies~~ truths and remembering different times, as if his moment had not occurred. It's what we do - No judgement, just acceptance. Like myself, my friend shoots guns and hunts so conversation turned to a few hunting trips we'd done together, people we'd hunted with and as often happens turned to *killing*. <center>![Copy of dazz (5).png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/galenkp/23ydCSi9ERUcAbQGxiMiE45fyMpFLHBwczfxLP9MEUTydirSmUt5utz68DPKVQjjeahuL.png)</center> He finished retelling a story I'd heard a hundred times before about a chap from his workplace he had taken hunting some years ago who was intent on killing anything that moved, it was like he got-off on the killing, *despite not having shot anything in his life.* In the end my mate had to take the firearm away from him as he was concerned about the mental stability of the guy; It was a good call for sure and I would have done the same. Anyway, this got us talking about killing and we began discussing the *personal kill response stages* which refer to combat specifically. These stages are similar to the emotional stages people roll through when dying like *denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance*; Similar but also quite different. *** #### Concern Studies show that one of the initial responses a soldier shows towards killing is concern over how they may do; Will they freeze up at the critical moment, *let the mates down.* Interestingly, this *concern* stage can lead to a fixation with killing, *obsession*, even before they have indeed killed. Of course, in war, this fixation often meets a conclusion through the act of killing and this can often come to pass in peacetime or civilian situations also. If there is no kill-act the obsession may be lived out in an imagined world, these days possibly through video games? A little disturbing to think of I'd say. I'll never understand why violent video games are so popular and parents let kids play them. #### Killing Combat killing is often reflexive through constant training. However it is not uncommon for those on the battlefield to be unable to do so and in these cases will rationalise that inability or become fixated [traumatised] by it. Each will come with their own set of issues. #### Exhilaration *Combat is exhilarating,* is what you'll hear most soldiers say if you're the sort of person they would feel comfortable to speak openly in front of. But there's dangers in that exhilaration. Combat addiction occurs in firefights, adrenalin is released and one can become *combat high* - Basically one feels like one is having a really good time and is oblivious to the dangers present. Intense for sure, but clearly dangerous, and not just because of the obvious dangers of the battlefield and being killed. Wanting that *high* again and again is where the problems arise. Soldiers become addicted to the exhilaration and look for combat situations and the high one receives during it. This is depicted quite well in the movie *The Hurt Locker* where the explosive ordnance disposal (EOD) guy played by Jeremy Renner actively seeks dangerous situations and re-ups for another tour rather than accept his life at home with wife and child. He is addicted to the exhilaration of combat; The high he recieves. The act of killing can exacerbate this stage, similar to the way a hunter may feel the trill of pleasure at having taken down his or her target. Pleasure. Maybe I should say *satisfaction?* During research conducted on the subject by, Richard Holmes - *Act of War,* many veterans cited the satisfaction or exhilaration from having gunned down the enemy - They mention things like, *all those years of training and the excitement of it, like the first time one goes deer hunting.* It is said that killing at distance is more likely to bring fixation on this particular stage possibly through the detachment found from long-range kills. It is common for pilots and snipers to be this way as the physical distance from the kill is usually quite far. Pilots in particular are quite open with talking about the exhilaration of the kill, also something depicted in many Hollywood movies. Top Gun with Tom Cruise comes to mind - The end scene when the F14's battle the MIG's. There's a lot whooping and enjoyment depicted. Mostly snipers will not do the same, possibly due to the social stigma that exists against saying one finds killing in combat enjoyable. #### Remorse I mentioned long-range kills above and that research shows it is more likely to be accepted more easily by the soldier on the battlefield; Close-range killing is different. In fact, there is a tremendous amount of remorse, disgust and revulsion attached to close-range killing by a vast majority of soldiers. Interestingly many veterans say they identify with the humanity of those they have killed and many are overwhelmed by that emotion which, of course, causes many problems. Many soldiers are so affected by it they become focused on never killing again therefore become ineffective and incapable of engaging in combat. This is something that happened in the First World War so often - The medics called it *shell-shock*. It was, of course, *PTSD and moral injury* gained through the pain and horror of combat. These days some effort is made to prepare warriors for combat and the emotions brought about by it, but those efforts are angled towards building effective soldiers not helping them cope when discharged. The remorse is real and to the government's shame little effort is made to assuage the emotion in those leaving active service and it's those men and women who will deal with it for the rest of their lives. #### Acceptance and rationalisation Accepting what one has done is a lifelong process and is likely to never be complete to any degree of satisfaction. The remorse and guilt stays, ebbs and flows; Usually the best one can hope for is a feeling of acceptance that what one has done was necessary and *right* within the context of their service. Most don't find it. A soldier may rationalise the kill in varied ways; The US sniper, Kris Kyle, was adamant that each kill he made *saved many American lives,* which is a fairly common rationalisation. There are many others of course - *You would have done the same in my place.* The kill or be killed ethos. Often rationalisation of the kill is unconscious but often the soldier *knows* he must do it and actively seeks to find the rationale in any way they are able and can you blame a soldier for doing so? I would hope you do not. If you talk to enough combat veterans you'll hear them refer to difficulty sleeping and justifiably so. However studies also show that acceptance and rationalisation can come through dreams themselves. Many experience dreams of their victims who ask why they were killed. In the dream the soldier explains to dream-victim which, as you may already deduce, is the soldier rationalising it to himself in his dream-state. *** Ok, so I think that's enough for now. That night, over pizza and a few drinks, my mate and I spoke about the above in great detail. I have merely outlined a few concepts around the *personal kill response stages* here and I must apologise if it's too heavy for some of you. This is real though and people deal with this situation day and night, maybe even someone *you know* suffers through it. It is a lifelong battle for many veterans which is why phrases like *the war is over but the fight continues* exist. Some will find acceptance within themselves, the ability to deal with what they have done; Some will fail and pay the price of that failure. Either way, most often, the blame lies elsewhere. Governments around the world fail their veterans so completely and have a lot to answer for. Sure, it's easy to say *there should be no war* but there is, and it's human beings that do the fighting...It would be nice to see the governments, that are so eager to send their people into battle, take some responsibility rather than chewing them up and spitting them out. But that's not profitable I guess. Lest we forget. </div> *** Design and create your ideal life, don't live it by default - *Tomorrow isn't promised so be humble and kind* <sub>Discord: galenkp#9209</sub> <sub>Some reference has been taken from the book *On Killing* by Lt. Col. D Grossman.</sub> <sub>Image is my own.</sub>
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Having someone not judging but accepting is worth so much. Especially when it comes to PTSD related topics. About the role of the governments and companies when it comes to war I don't even wanna start. A soldier is a tool for them. Someones gotta do the work right? I've seen many struggling with the reason of being in war. It's such a big topic only few talk about.
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Thanks for commenting Anna. Yep, it's a fairly contentious subject and one the governments around the world like to ignore; The veterans get left to their own devices largely and quite often that doesn't go very well.<div class="pull-right"><a href="/@hive.engage">![](https://i.imgur.com/XsrNmcl.png)</a></div>
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I was actually going to refer you to the lieutenant colonel himself. Excellent job referring to his definitive work. Me and puppy dog thank you and support your work! Awesome subject. ![IMG_20210607_200016391.jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/ganjafarmer/23wMYNKGmzbmrMr5KyLTauhdYZVMpBFKwjhk4nnw6bmGzHjgV5ruy599BVDEHmtsSdwCW.jpg)
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Thanks for taking a read and commenting; You *and the pup!*. 👊
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Yep blaze it!!!
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If war and combat doesn't mess with your head, there's something already deeply wrong. Even if you're acting in pure self-defense against an invader, it should affect you.
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Yep, agreed...And it does.
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Wow, fantastic post. Having worked with so many veterans and civilian first responders that had disrupted sleep patterns, hyper-sensitivity, relation troubles and other issues what really stuck with me is how the government has failed them. Literally billions of dollars are spent in them researching the psychology of how to spin them up during boot camp and during other training exercises, etc. yet so little on how to get them "back to normal" once their time is over. Even in the psychology field, there is only a small percentage of therapist that are knowledgeable and truly good at helping these folks, who typically don't respond well to traditional talk therapy. EMDR, Hypnotherapy techniques, and Ego-state integration are some of the methods used more effectively to reduce the emotional attachment to the old memories. Many uneducated folks think these veterans are detached, unemotional robots when exactly the opposite is true. They may maintain a robot face on the outside, but inside, their emotions are spinning out of control, and constantly being stirred up by the memories replaying in their head. The real key is teaching them how to control those memories, much like taking control of a lucid dream, and then also removing the emotional attachment and resulting physical response to them. Ahh, I could go on and on. I do miss that work a bit. To paraphrase your post, the "satisfaction" one feels from helping someone past these issues is a fantastic reward in itself. Enjoy and best wishes to your bud. I hope he can bring himself to find the right professional to help. It sometimes takes a few to get the right fit. Wish I was there to have a few beers with you both!
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*You get it* as I knew you would; One can't work as closely with people like this without it soaking in. I'm sure you helped many and it seems very clear that you enjoyed doing so which, I feel strongly, is important to have able to do it well. Have the patience and all. I didn't expect this post to go well, it's a heavy topic most are happy to ignore, as does the government, but it was important enough to me to write it, at least in the very basic way I have and maybe just one person sees it and thinks differently. People that suffer with these issues rely on people like you Kris, and it's very cool that you gave them your time. I'd be happy to have a beer with you anytime, you know that.
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My partner is an early retired US army and he served in Iraq. Most of his friends past away because of an attack, I'd rather not go through the whole story but itself really sad to see him feel really hurt able what happened, almost like he's going to breakdown. But even after that he still is willing to join the US army if they call for volunteers in order to protect his country and the future civilization. I hate the idea of wars but at the same time hate when other humans take advantage of their power to destroy the humanities.
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I hope your partner is able to rationalise and accept his actions and I'm sure having your support will make that easier for him. It's sad that veterans are not offered the help required to overcome issues brought about through service to ones country. Thanks for your comment.
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I tried not to ask things an his experiences just the look in his eyes I can feel much pain the experience brought him and all I can do help h out is be better partner and mom to his child. There are a lot worst stories about veteran going home after their service and I so thankful that he didn't go in path, because it is so so heartbreaking to hear stories. And they're hit mentally and emotionally it's probably very hard help them out, or don't know if there's even really ways of helping, and just can't phantom the things that they web through 😭
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This was way too heavy for me x_x but I read it anyway because some things I'd rather learn subsequent hand. I'm kind of curious about if the number/intensity of wars would change if the politicians who make these decisions also had to lead into battle, and similarly if the support would drastically improve when the people mostly responsible for making those decisions actually understand what's needed.
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It's pretty heavy, and this is the *light* version. Back in the very early days it was a requirement that the King and powerful people/leaders led the army into battle. It soon became unpopular as they would often get killed, but when they did so, lead, it was often seen as uplifting and motivating by the troops. It was a positive thing. There are examples of officers doing this in our more modern wars, Dick Winters (Easy Company 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, part of the 101st Airborne Division) is one such example of leading from the front but there are so many others. Major Winters was an inspirational leader to his men. But...The politicians? Not so much. Having said that, did you know Winston Churchill was a fearless, brave and very well respected officer before becoming a politician? True story. He sought battle as that was a way to advance ones career. There have been others but I think these days it's not the done thing. I'm not sure what may inspire governments to better support their veterans, only that they really need to. *Really need to.* Thanks for reading Ry, sorry it was a bit heavy. But this topic is always going to be.
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Don't apologise, there's no real way to lighten this one (even if this was a "light" version x_x) and avoiding it because it's uncomfortable doesn't help anyone. I figured maybe there would be less because politicians seem to be spineless cowards sometimes but then if there were more Churchills...I don't actually know :S Yes, they absolutely do need to better support veterans.
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