Um...I think in that case the issue would actually be the people that are so delusional they don't see them as people anymore...since they are...you know...people.

Well...I think we all should discuss things occasionally. I often can find things I agree with people on from various parties, because I don't walk party lines. Actual people don't often go perfectly along party lines. You may find that many lifelong republicans hold some views that are more liberal than democrats, but they vote republican because they can't support the democrats for various reasons.

Of course, there are also a lot of people that for whatever reason just tow the party lines. I guess maybe for some, it feels good to just be part of the team.

But it's only through discussing these things that we can change minds and even develop our beliefs, or find middle ground.

>Who talk about Muslims not respecting women, but ignore that every 4th woman in their own country has experienced domestic violence.

Moving towards equal rights for mankind and ending violence is a world issue...it doesn't really have a ton to do with people being one religion or another...though there certainly is historical violence in many religious groups. But we can't exactly change people and beliefs easily. We certainly can't change other countries by invading them. Changing leaders in other countries often goes wrong.

The only thing we can really do is try to slowly change the world and improve things. We shouldn't invade places and kill people because their beliefs do not align with ours...even if those beliefs are violent and extreme.

We don't even necessarily need to do anything, because the internet is slowly bringing us towards a more level singular community. But that goes both ways, which does scare some people. Slowly, those countries will change, and people will get equal rights, and we should try to move towards that, but not through violence and hate.

We all should try to move the world forward, but it takes time, and we shouldn't hate people because they don't subscribe to our beliefs. It's easy to forget how much we ourselves have changed in the last 100 years. We shouldn't meet those that haven't moved forward as fast as us with hate when we ourselves still have so far to go. We have to try to accept others, even if we fail, because everyone's trying. Even countries and people that seem to be stuck in the past have often themselves moved forward, just too slowly for our liking.

I hope what I mean has come across...it's very difficult to talk about these topics, because they are so sensitive and complex...

That's not that black or white. Being kind of related to specific groups of immigrants myself I have a specific point of view.

Sometimes you escape from hell to protect your family.
Sometimes it's about your own life.
Sometimes you pursue your own vision of El Hombre Dorado.
Sometimes you are just chasing new possibilities.

I know people matching first case, that after legalizing their stay are strongly against immigration because they are afraid of those from the fourth case. Hypocrisy? Fear? It's easy to pick a single word to define things. Events, people, life stories. A terrorist, a politician, a leftist, a rightist, a jew, a tall tree.

We.
Them.