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Advantages of living in South East Asia: Bathroom edition by gooddream

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Advantages of living in South East Asia: Bathroom edition
There are many advantages to living in South East Asia or SEA as it is commonly known and many of them relate to finance, the overall cost of living, and the fact that for most of the area, it is never winter here.  However, I want to focus on something that all of us have in our lives and spend some amount of time in each day (hopefully) and that is the bathroom (toilet.)  

These are in no particular order but all are important.

<h3> Water is basically free </h3>

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When I hear the stories of massive water bills that my friends suffer back in the USA I can only shake my head in disbelief.  Stories of bills in excess of a hundred dollars is just insane to me.  It's water... why does it cost so much.

The bill above is not my own but most of mine were actually much much lower than this.  That bill above is for a month and it is around $7.50.   Most of my water bills were around $5 a month or less.  There was a period of time where if you had a water bill of less than 100 Baht (which was around $3 a month) the water company wouldn't even give you a bill and just let you have it for free.  

There is the disadvantage of the water being non-potable but bottled drinking water service in containers that are sanitized and reused cost so little that this isn't a factor.  Think about it... how much of the water that you use in your daily life really needs to be drinkable?  

<hr>

<h3> Never ending hot water machine </h3>

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When I was a kid we had 6 people in our household.  If you took a shower that was "too long" it meant that someone else in the family was not going to have any hot water for their shower.  This of course would irritate the other people and it was because although we had a relatively massive hot water heater in the basement, it has a limited capacity.  

With this machine on the wall you will literally NEVER run out of hot water since it heats it up on the spot.  I know that this is not specific to South East Asia and they are available all over the world.  However, I had never seen one until I moved to this part of the world.  I don't understand why we don't use them in the west, it must have something to do with energy efficiency.  

<hr> 

<h3> The shower IS the bathroom </h3>

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For most households there is no division between where the shower is and where the rest of the bathroom is.  The floor simply angles slightly towards the drain in the corner throughout the entire area.  In this regard the "WC" is literally the "water closet."  This has many benefits i enjoy such as the fact that cleaning up is really easy.  You just spray down everything, do a scrub-a-dub and then spray everything down.  All the gunk just goes away.

As a kid several of our bathrooms actually had carpeting in them, which in my mind is just insane.  There are very few people that have bathtubs here and even when they do they are never those horrible plastic things that were in every apartment I ever had when I lived in USA.  

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<h3> The bum gun </h3>

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When we saw the USA scramble to buy up all the toilet paper in grocery stores back at the start of Covid we couldn't help but chuckle over here a bit because that really wouldn't be a factor over here.  I actually flexed on my USA friends a bit online as I walked through the supermarket to the toilet paper aisle to show completely full shelves.  

I don't need to get into the details about what this is for but let's just say that it works a whole lot better than roll upon roll of toilet paper does, not to mention the fact that it is far more environmentally friendly than using TP and also you are not going to end up in an embarrassing situation where you have clogged the crapper at your friend's house.  

Everyone I know that has lived here for any amount of time ends up installing one of these in their homes back in USA when they return.   Because it just makes sense.  

<hr>

Before I moved overseas I had this sense of superiority as a Westerner because my country and most of the European countries I was familiar with seemed to be so much further ahead as far as economics and technology was concerned.  That is likely still the case but at least in this one specific area I think the USA and other countries have it all wrong and SEA has done it all right.  I can't imagine why these things don't even appear to be an option back in the west and not only that, but people might think it is strange that you would have this.

If I am ever forced to live in the USA again at some point in my life I am definitely going to convert my bathroom to be like it is over here - It was odd to me at first but now the other way seems odd.  
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@angryman ·
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In a lot of places within the *States*, water bills include a separate charge for *sewer* service. Therefore, we take a hit in the pocket both ways.

Here...and some other places I'm familiar with, the 'waste water' charge averages at least 'TWICE' of which we pay for *supply*โ€ฆ The water companies claim that it is more costly to treat/process sewer water than it is to capture, treat and deliver *fresh* water.

SOooooooooโ€ฆ If we're charged at 30 cents a gallon, they tack on another 60 cents per gallon whether it goes out the drain pipe or not.

The water company in my locale has as a history of double billing as well, with *different* totals each time, then arguing with customers about it, turning *off* the water to their house, then charging a $50. *re-connection* fee to turn water back on... This, even after they admit their mistake!

Theft??? Well, yes. The FBI finally came in and put a stop to it not long ago with the arrest of *key* company personnel.

And... Would you believe that our Mayor and City Council President tried to keep Council from NOT renewing the expiring Water Companies contract, for a *better* bid from another company?!?!?

Well...wellโ€ฆ Guess what *two* crooked Government officials got arrested next for accepting *bribes*?
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@gooddream ·
> Well...wellโ€ฆ Guess what two crooked Government officials got arrested next for accepting bribes?

There's no way that is true!  Public officials are honest and hardworking and are only looking out for the betterment of the community... not personal gain!  Come on man!

In Thailand, as far as I know there was no central sewerage or water treatment plant that I am aware of.  Every house had septic tanks that had to be pumped out after a certain amount of time.  Where it goes after that is anyone's guess and is probably something I don't actually want to know the answer to.  

My water bill in the condo that I currently reside in costs 100,000 VND per month regardless of how much water I use.  This is around $4 US.  haha!  I don't consume it though unless it is boiled first... there are a lot of people that say that I shouldn't do that either but if it was gonna kill me or make me sick i reckon it would have done so by now.  It's been 15 years.  
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@gooddream ·
I think that could actually work but the initial investment would be prohibitively expensive and some social justice warrior out there would probably complain about how it is discrimination on some level.  Public bathrooms are potentially very frightening places, so I can understand your fear.  I hope you never have to see the horror that is a rural Thai bathroom at a gas station.  
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@bozz ·
Yeah, those are some good points.  I know a lot of places in big cities only allow paying customers to use the facilities and I also know that sometimes they aren't kept up the best.  Having a place you know you can go at different locations in a city like New York could be good.
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@deadspace ·
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If only we could all be so lucky to have ass blasters stationed next to our toilets here in the US :(
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@gooddream ·
a lot of kitchen sinks have them.  When I showed some of my students that we do have them, just not in the bathroom, in the states they thought it was really funny because no one over here would ever dare have something like that in the kitchen just because of what that apparatus is usually used for.  
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@macchiata ·
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When I went to a house without bidet and just with toilet paper, I feel disgusted ๐Ÿ˜…
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@gooddream ·
When i was visiting Korea they had taken bidets to a whole different level.  I don't know how much those magic toilets cost there but they are pretty amazing.  

I can't believe that this hasn't caught on in the west.  It must be so we can sell more toilet paper.  
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@zekepickleman ·
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Haha what a neat angle!

When in Japan, I really did enjoy the water closet being exactly that.  Especially the night I had WAAAYYYYY too much biru and sake and had to use the shower to clean everything up.

The auxiliary hot water heaters would be awesome around this house where I am outnumbered by women!  I think the issue is the cost of the electricity for the luxury and I have only seen high-end homes use those.

Everything over here is part of a profit/loss mechanism and basic necessities are priced as high as people can handle.  Part of the privilege of having minimum wage well over $10/hour and the only squawking I hear is when the water is poison like in Detroit.

Now I wanna convert my bathroom into the one you have in your post!

Hope you are safe and happy over there old friend.  Your posts always make me wanna travel again!
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@gooddream ·
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well I hope you do get to travel again!  I have not done very much of that myself but it has more to do with the dog rather than me not having any desire to do it.  That and the fact that my group of flunkie friends always make last minute plans so even if I did want to go I first have to find someone to look after my dog.  I don't trust the dog-hotels because basically they just sit in a kennel all day and probably feel really sad and abandoned... wondering if you are ever going to come back.  

I've heard about "tankless" water systems in the states but they seem to cover the entire house rather than just the showers.  Think about it:  how much of your house do you really need to have hot water access in?  While washing dishes with cold water might not be as pleasant you don't actually NEED hot water to get dishes clean.  

how much of that water really needs to be drinkable?  Every time you wash your car just remember that this is better water than basically every country has access to from their taps in all the countries around here.  Maybe singapore has potable water out of the taps but the rest of us dont!  
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@zekepickleman ·
True on the water when you think about it.

As far as kennels go, the one out here is like a vacation for our dog.  She gets excited when we pull up and sees where we are, then takes off like a shot in the huge yard full of other dogs and toys and kiddie pools and such.  If she could talk, she would ask to go multiple times a day. ;)
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