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Why does no one explain the semiautomatic firing mechanism? by graytail

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· @graytail ·
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Why does no one explain the semiautomatic firing mechanism?
I'm not a gun owner and I have never fired one.  I listen to people talk about gun control and I have no axe to grind.  And consistently, after every event, I hear the same tired, misguided arguments.  Today, we're listening to uneducated students deliver long impassioned speeches about how awful it is to experience violence and death at the hands of a shooter.  And they've been told that gun control will help prevent it in the future.  They've been told that an "assault weapon" is a different sort of gun that can be outlawed, and that outlawing such a weapon will help.

But ... there is no such thing.  A semiautomatic firearm is simply the metal part of the gun, in the middle, with the trigger, etc.  It can be small like a pistol or large like a rifle.  It can have a long stock and a long barrel or it can have no stock and a short barrel like a pistol.  It doesn't matter if the stock is made of wood or metal or plastic and it doesn't matter what color it is.  It operates exactly the same as any other semiautomatic weapon.  Each time you pull the trigger, the old cartridge is expelled, a new one is loaded and the trigger recocks, ready for another pull.

The only other type of mechanism is one that has to be manually reloaded each time you fire, like the old lever action rifle.  You fire, then operate the mechanism manually, then fire again.  The idea that semiautomatic weapons are made to kill people is absurd.  They're made to kill, yes, but people buy them and own them to kill game animals, not people.  There are roughly 400 million firearms in the country!  The semiautomatic part that everyone is focused on is just a mechanism, present in almost all guns sold in the past  decades.  No one prefers a gun that has to be manually operated.  Legislating against semiautomatic weapons would apply to every gun, not just the scary looking black ones, and the scary looking black ones operate no differently than any good hunting rifle.

And then there's the problem of the Constitution and its Amendments.  The 2nd one gives us the right to bear arms.  If we want to do something about guns in America, we need to repeal that Amendment. 

It's a matter of education.  The passion is good for TV ratings, but it's useless - all it does is feed passion.  Education would help.

When someone begins the Amendment repeal process, we can argue back and forth about how to confiscate the 400 million guns that already exist.  Until then, gun control as presently argued is simply ignorant and pointless.  It doesn't matter how a gun looks.  It's nothing more than that small metal mechanism, and it exists on 100s of millions of guns that people already own.

If you're passionate about gun control, please research the subject while you march and rally and shout.

Please.
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@justusagenstum ·
If Gun Control Laws worked...our fearless leaders and police officers would lead by example and arm themselves with billy clubs and broomsticks...the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to call on a good guy with a gun...you will not win a gun debate with Liberals, they are the most fundamentally fuckin' retarded creatures on Earth...good post by the way!
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@kirbyhopper · (edited)
Alright. 7 words: Just do what Australia did. It works.
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@ganjafarmer ·
Violent crime is actually flourished and private citizens are paying the price there is a huge movement to restore Firearms rights to rightful owners of Australia. However homemade Firearms by criminals are flourishing.

However you cannot blame the tool that was used to commit the murder.

We must hold the murderer accountable.
If you impose the death penalty for every murder? Murder would drop.

However the safest areas are where everybody has the right to protect themselves. 

Let us take the Civil War era where everybody had firearms. The southern tradition of extreme respect came from needing to be an offense of to avoid a gunfight. 

Protect victims. Give a tiny woman the ability to defend herself against a larger man. 

A friend of mine who is a single mother as well as a very intelligent nurse. She had to get a gun to protect herself from an abusive relationship. 

However we do need to start taking better care of the mental health of people. 

The Florida Shooter had been reported numerous times and nobody cared. 

We should be focusing on the four officers who had guns and stood around while children were being slaughtered.  Every patrol car has an assault rifle. Every single one of those officers was responsible for protection of the children.

You can't take away the guns of the police. However you need police who are willing to do their job. However we still need more information about that.

But nobody is talking about why these individuals are doing what they are doing. 

There was a stabbing spree in China that resulted in 33  dead and 150 wounded.

Don't ban spoons because people are fat.
Don't take away the right for a human being to protect their life. Please don't disarm victims.

Early on in the Oregon medical marijuana program Elder and disabled people were targeted by criminals and gangs. They would actually commit horrific home invasion assaults.

3600% increase in violent crimes toward elderly and disabled people in the first year. I was one of those who survived. 

What we need to do is truly hold somebody who does such a horrific crime accountable. So many of the perpetrators of such violence get away with slap on the wrist. In Oregon you could murder somebody and with good behavior be on the street in 7 years.

It's not the perpetrators. We need to fix the justice system and the mental health.
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@kirbyhopper ·
>Violent crime is actually flourished and private citizens are paying the price there is a huge movement to restore Firearms rights to rightful owners of Australia.

Can you document that violent crime is flourishing in Australia since they enacted tough gun laws?

Thanx.
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@graytail ·
Well, not to be obnoxiously picky, but that's 6 words.

And we'll still have to repeal the 2nd Amendment before we can  we can try that.  So everyone should immediately start advocating  for repeal.    Right?  What's the point, otherwise?  You can't ban guns until you repeal the Constitutional right to own them.
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@kirbyhopper · (edited)
Fixed it. Thanx.

I don't think so because we didn't have to repeal the 2nd Amendment  to outlaw the ownership of guns by convicted felons. The Constitution doesn't prevent such things because it's up to the Supreme Court to interpret the Constitution and the laws that get passed. If the Court says it's not unconstitutional then it's not unconstitutional, and even if the Court says state laws are unconstitutional but the citizens of the states still want to follow those laws there's nothing the Court can do about it.  The only thing that can be done about it is the federal government can withhold funds from the states for things like re-paving the interstate highway in those states but the states can just ignore the feds, take a cut in revenue, and go on outlawing certain types of guns or restrict who can own one.
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@stormrider · (edited)
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No, it didn't. Home invasion is a serious problem there. I also find it convenient that Australia's statistics aren't compared with the U.S. on a per capita basis. The fact is that the vast majority of gun violence in the US occurs in the cities that have the strictest gun control.  My individual rights are not up for debate, and I don't care about your feelings about it. I will take responsibility for my safety instead of screaming at a government to keep me protected from the scary people.
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@graytail ·
As if government actually can protect you from the scary people.

I read an article today about the deputy who took a defensive position and waited, while he listened to children being killed.  Just swell.  And he apparently earned a 6 figure salary right up until we discovered that he didn't have what it takes to defend children.  I always end up wondering who was responsible for this person.  Didn't he have a boss?  Why isn't it the boss's fault too?  For instance, did we ever hear who Pvt Manning's boss was?  Why does he still have a job?  What the heck IS a manager or supervisor, if their employees are bozos?  I mention the article because I learned a new term from it.  "Check-sucker".

We're going to count on check-suckers to protect our children?  Nu uh.  I think not.  

Meanwhile, the problem solvers are all hysterical about which firearms we should "ban".  It's so pathetic that it's frightening.
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@kirbyhopper ·
I provided at least one of those per-capita stats you are looking for in [this post](https://steemit.com/politics/@kirbyhopper/stopping-gun-violence-just-do-what-australia-did-it-works). What Australia did, is working, if you're willing to see it.
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@zonosteem ·
A lot of people who know very little about guns have plenty of incorrect things to say about them. I believe we have more of a cultural problem here in the U. S. than a gun problem. Many sportsmen & women prefer non semi automatic guns for there sport. That doesn't mean they shouldn't have one if they want one.
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